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ScubaPete
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18. December 2004 @ 19:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


I have just come to the realization that you've been jerking my chain by multi-posting in forum, quering me in different threads as well as PM'ing me on the same damn question. - You're not more important than everyone else, the rules against multi-posting apply to you as well.

I don't appreciate pple taking advantage of my desire to help others by exploiting me in the manner in which you have. You use and abuse pple. Look in the mirror and you'll see why pple like me leave this forum ? it's the selfish, self-centered pple like you who ruin it for the many.

You and your fragrant violation of the rules fragment this forum. As you're looking, congratulate yourself on sinking to new depths, at least in my eyes you have ? not that pple like you care -


Sea Yaaaaaaaaaa ~

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/135493
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/123096#710217
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19. December 2004 @ 01:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep, double posting following a warning in a PM can get one's behind gnawed on.

Jockey, if you'd read the threads, there is an abundance of info in there. One of the best pieces of advice I give beginners is to look at the guides and follow them. Then ask specific questions about operation. Not general things like I have an ISO file and now how do I use it. That's in the guides. http://www.dvdshrink.info has good interactive guides that give a good virtual tour of Shrink and they have a segment on DVD Decrypter. More in depth guides can be found at http://www.Doom9.org . Eventually I'll get tired of repeating myself.

Good luck and I'd advise against any further double posting or sending PMs to Pete.

'Brobear'





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jockey747
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Hi Brobear,
I am sorry for troubling Scubapete, I guess he won't reply to me ever now.
I hope you can help me, I was successfuly buring DVD movies and was using Verbatim Blanks.I was using Decrypter,Nero 6 and Shrink. Now I have reformatted my PC and all the settings have been set according to the previous settings.The only difference is now I am using Imation Blanks. I have wasted 4 DVD-R's and now I have opend a new pack of DVD-RW's but still no luck.The rip is successful everytime but Nero gives an error at about 30% and Decrypter gets stuck burning at about 40%.
Can you tell me if Imation has some issues burning DVD movies.
Thanks

Jockey
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With Imation you would have been better off with the +R/RW media. If they haven't switched manufacturers recently, Ricoh is the manufacturer of the + R/RW media. The -R is produced by CMC and the -RW by Optodisc. (Interesting, I find Optodisc sells a Pioneer disc under the Optodisc brand, just a side note.) Though CMC is questionable media, I doubt that is the cause of your problem. Run DVDInfoPro or DVD Identifier to read the manufacturer codes on the discs.

Just to be sure though, buy some TDK +RW (I'm assuming you have a drive that is capable of using + and - media). Sony, Imation, Fuji, or Ricoh are some other safe bets in +RW. If for some reason you have to have - media, let us know.

Without some info, it would be hard to diagnose the problem. Are you running Shrink and burning from a temp file or are you ripping to the HD with Decrypter and then loading the file to Shrink. In this case, I'd try the latter. Plus what condition is the disc to be recorded in and how much space do you have left and how much usable RAM? Little things like that and then you run into needing a clean environment, clean out the adware and spyware besides running the anti virus. Just a load of variables. Batch writing software will even mess with a burner.

'Brobear'





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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21. December 2004 @ 09:33

ScubaPete
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20. December 2004 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

If you have ripped and compressed with DVD Shrink, try this -

A guide for burning with Nero 6 Burning ROM

A 30-day, free, fully functional Nero 6 download can be had here:
http://www.nero.com/us/631939541422774.php

BURNING WITH NERO CLASSIC
HINT:
First, create a folder for your work on your desktop OR your HD. ? Name it something that you'll be able to find. I named mine C:\All My DVD Work\\The Last Samurai sings Swami (off key). Now load your IFO, BUP and VOB files there - make sure they are in a folder named VIDEO_TS written like that (all in Caps) - some programs like DVD Shrink will make the properly named folder for you, others you must make the folder yourself - Nero needs that folder with all it?s contents in order to work properly ?

Burning a file made by DVD Shrink.
If you had used DVD Shrink to create a file on your HD you are truly in great shape. When you wish to burn, use the "File Browser" in Nero Classic (don?t use Wizard), trace your path back to ?All DVD Work\ \The Last Samurai sings Swami (off key)?, you don?t have to remember where your work is or if you need to do anymore work on it, it is completely finished, ready to go ? ?

OK then, is everyone comfy ? Good - its now time for - -
?Uncle? ScubaPete?s Step by Step, Let?s burn with Nero 6 Guide -

First - Do not use Nero Wizard -
Please follow along EXACTLY - (might even want to PRINT IT OUT, it'll make following easier, don't ya know ?)

In case you're finding Nero's Burning ROM hard to find (sometimes it really is hiding (Lol). Go to "Start", "All Programs", "Nero", "Nero 6 Ultra Edition" and there you'll find "Nero Burning ROM" :)

When you open Nero Burning ROM, you will be at the ?New Compilation? window. Directly under the title ?New Compilation? is a choice block to choose either DVD or CD, choose ?DVD?. Directly under that click on the ?DVD Video Icon.? Then click ?New? in the upper right corner of that screen, NOT the main screen.
You now are in the ?DVD Video? window. In the left screen, click ?VIDEO_TS?. In the ?File Browser? screen, 3rd from the left, trace your path to the VIDEO_TS folder, the one you made earlier holding all of your files and click on that folder. All of your VIDEO_TS files are now opened in the right screen. Click on the top file, hold down the ?Shift? key and then click the bottom file thereby hi-lighting the entire column of files. Click and (holding the left mouse button down) drag the entire column of files to the open screen, second from the left and release the mouse button.
Now click the icon on the task bar that shows a match on a disc, and then click ?OK? and now, clear the room, stand up tall and shout out, ?Burn Baby, BURN? ! One more time, let me hear you say it, ?Who?s your Daddy Now ????
Guess what my Friend ? You are done !!!

(Wheeew, now I really need a cigarette)

NOW, STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ! !
Keep all fingers and toes away from Ms. Computer. Never mess with the lady when she?s working ? it would be hazardous to your health, you understand -
Go and have your coffee, when Nero is done, she'll let you know ;-))

Enjoy your backup,

Pete

PS - When using Nero to burn your ISO image, use Nero StartSmart - ?Click? the DVD tab in upper right - then ?click? the 5th tab, under DVD tab "Copy and backup? then choose ?Burn Image to Disc?. This should open Nero Express. Use this to burn your ISO Image to your blank DVD.

Hope this has been of some help ?






The ?Old Man? Pete (ö¿ô)

Your DVD answers are at ScubaPete's DVD Backup Corner ~>

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html

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jockey747
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20. December 2004 @ 22:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BROBEAR
This is the error I ger while trying to burn the ISO Image with Nero 6. I am using Imation DVD-RW and the manufacturer is Optodisc. Also the burn speed I'm getting is 1X. I had another DVD+RW, Verbatim,it was fine and the speed I got was 4X.I'm just wondering is it the - which the problem here.
I have just tried to burn the image on a brand new Imation DVD-RW but same error at about 40%.Please help.



Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 2/13/2004 11:41:26 PM
Nero version: 6.3.0.3 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax> Version: 120D - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax >Version: 120D - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 90651U2 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST36423A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax E: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 32505856 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 191MB (196148kB)
Free physical memory: 58MB (59864kB)
Memory in use : 69 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

21.12.2004
Burn DVD Image
9:08:49 PM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

9:08:49 PM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax running

9:08:49 PM #3 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366
Image was written as DAO.
DAOI:
MediaCatalogNumber = '
TocType = 0x40
Finalized = 1
First/Last Track = 1 / 1
1: ISRC = '
Blocksize = 2048
TrackMode = 'TRM_DATA_MODE1'
TrackConfig = 0x00
First/Last Index = 0 / 1
Index0FilePos = 0, Index1FilePos = 307200, NextTrackFilePos = 405712896
CUES:
0: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 0 (0x00) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
1: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
2: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=00:00.00 ( 0)
3: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=110 (0xAA) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=510:01.29 ( 2295104)
MTYP: Mediumtype = DVD (old format) (0x1C)
Image file name: <D:\Image.nrg>

9:08:49 PM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

9:08:50 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Last possible write address on media: 2297887 (510:38.37, 4488MB)
Last address to be written: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)

9:08:50 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

9:08:50 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax, Media type: DVD-RW
Disc Manufacturer: OPTODI - SCK001
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 214

9:08:50 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

9:08:50 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - DVD-ROM)
2 indices, index0 (150) provided
original disc pos #0 + 2295104 (2295104) = #2295104/510:1.29
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2295104 blocks [ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

9:08:50 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
Prepare recorder [ATAPI DVD RW 12XMax ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4700372992, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2295104 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

9:08:50 PM #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Caching of files started

9:08:50 PM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4073
Cache writing successful.

9:08:50 PM #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Caching of files completed

9:08:50 PM #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process started at 1x (1,380 KB/s)

9:08:50 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

9:08:50 PM #16 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 14:13,519 (853519ms) -> OK

9:08:50 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

9:08:50 PM #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19516
Set BUFE: Seamless Link -> ON

9:08:50 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

9:08:50 PM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-RW (3), Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

9:34:15 PM #21 SCSI -1039 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1431
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x06230000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x09
Sense Qual: 0x01
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x0E 0xC1 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x09 0x01

9:34:15 PM #22 CDR -1039 File Writer.cpp, Line 301
Focus or tracking error

9:34:15 PM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

9:34:15 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

9:34:15 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1847
EndDAO: Last written address was 966943

9:34:15 PM #26 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

9:34:15 PM #27 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

9:34:15 PM #28 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process failed at 1x (1,380 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148), size=86656 bytes, created 8/19/2001 1:00:00 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

Thanks

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ctljones

The problem code changed with the new version of Nero but it still appears to be a read or drive failure. These drives I believe were made by Lite On and some people have even flashed them with Lite On firmware to solve media errors.

Much of what Craig said before seems to still apply. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't see anyone else jumping in here. I'd get a cleaner CD and try cleaning the optical head of the drive, and then try the firmware upgrade.

I noticed you went from the Maxell -R to a the Ritek -RW. The media you're using is a bit questionable. Sony, Fuji, or Imation +RW or +R Sony, Fuji, or TDK discs are a good bet. Verbatim is another good disc in +R. I'm not that familiar with the Ritek RWs. I use Philips and Ricoh manufactured +RW discs when possible and Ricoh is my choice for +R media.

It still appears this drive is having problems with DVD media. Yes... a drive can use CDs and still have problems with DVDs. I've found finding firmware for the Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DW-U18A> Version: UYS1 is a bit of trouble. You may need to call sony support. I had trouble googling anything up, you may have better luck. I found one site that listed firmware. (Note the UYS1 version). Here are the links I found.

How to Flash
http://dhc014.rpc1.org/howto.htmDVD-R

Firmware Collection
http://dhc014.rpc1.org/indexOEM.htm#DW-U18A

Be sure to read How to Flash. If you don't feel comfortable with this; get someone who knows how to do it for you. If you can't get this done, put the PC in the shop and have it checked out. This may not be the fix, but it needs to be checked.

Another thing I noticed was the CD drive is DMA off and the DVD Drive is DMA On. Set the CD drive to DMA on. Sometimes these settings interfere with the queue.

If it were me, I'd stick a different drive in to check the system. That would be the easy way to check everything out if you have access to one. More than likely the first thing a service tech will check is to see if the drive is functioning properly.





'Brobear'





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jockey747

First of all, I'd advise you to delete the serial number listed with the log before everyone has a free copy of Nero at your expense.

'Brobear'





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jockey747
Before we get lost in the log, which can indicate multiple problems, there is a simple check. Your PC logged a hardware error. You say the drive did fine with a Verbatim +RW and failed with an Imation -RW. Try another Verbatim +RW. It could just be a problem with the Imation media. If that doesn't take care of it, check back and we can delve into the grisly details (hopefully just kidding).

I also noticed you need to upgrade your version of Nero.

Speed difference in media, read the rated speeds. I believe the Imation-Optodisc has a Max speed of 2X.

Since your system said an SCSI error, I checked your hard drive specs. What brand and model PC are you using and what brand and model burner? I'd like to see some specs as well; amount of RAM, CPU type and speed. How much free hard drive space. (With those drives, hopefully not much programming.)

Maxtor 90651U2

MAXTOR Diamond Max 6.5GB UATA66 Hard Drive
(90651U2)

ST36423A

Seagate 6.4GB UDMA/33 5400RPM IDE HDD

I've seen movies on DVD ROM larger than those hard drives.

From just the specs on the hard drives, I fear this PC may not be a good choice to be burning DVD video.


'Brobear'





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Hi Ctljones,

As Brobear indicated, it still looks like a hardware problem. We strongly recommned cleaning the drives optical head.

And yes, the process for burning to CD's is different than DVD's. One could work, while the other fails on a recorder.


Hi Jockey747,

Your log file shows a "Focus or Tracking Error". This is a hardware error message. Normally caused by one of the following...

1) Poor Media
2) Old Firmware
3) Dust on the Optical head of the Recorder
4) Power Fluctuations
5) Defective Recorder - needs to be sent in for service or replaced.

Regards,

Craig
Ahead Software
USA
(Still on Vacation)
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ccampbell
Just curious on this one. The five standard causes of failure cover a lot of territory. Some of them should be routine maintenance and common sense; i.e. occasionally cleaning the optical head and making sure the firmware is up to date, and using quality media. Those are easily remedied. One can run a program such as SiSoft Sandra and do the drive benchmark test to check the drive. They have a trial one can use.

In this case, what do you think of the antiquated drives handling the data? Those drives won't hold some movies and even some of the small ones would push one of the drives to capacity. Nero only recognized those 2 drives, so it appears that's what it's running on. On GP I'd recommend running down to Wal Mart or somewhere and picking up at least a 40GB HD. They're relatively cheap now. That's assuming the rest of the system meets minimum requirements for recording DVD video.

'Brobear'





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Hi Brobear,

What you say is true. It would be best to first try and isolate which of the five is suspect. As you mentioned, three of the possible causes listed are easy to determine.

As for the issue you brought up, I would suggest doing normal Data DVD and Data CD burns, just to see if this occurs with an average write of about 700MB or 4.3gig. If it occurs with a basic Data DVD or CD write, then you can rule out the possible issue of using Older drives that may have trouble with reaching the end of a DVD Media's capacity.

Regards,

Craig
Ahead Software
USA
(Still on Vacation, I think.)
 
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