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7. August 2005 @ 15:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes grafton, Many of the more experienced members have found this out. Scubapete is one of them. The dye in the el cheapo manufacturers break down quicker.Some of them are breaking down less than 6 months down the road!





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7. August 2005 @ 16:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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ARE YOU SAYING THAT CHEAP MEDIA WILL DEGRADE AFTER A TIME, AFTER BURNING.
It is more likely to than good quality media.
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BECAUSE I HAVE SOME DVDS THAT WOULD NOT PLAY AFTER A TIME CAN THAT BE BECAUSE OF THE LOW QUALITY AND WILL MOST DVDS DEGRADE AFTER TIME
Yes, more than likely and no media is guaranteed to last forever but good quality media will not degrade as quickly as poor quality media if ever if properly stored. Use this free proggy to ID your media and let us know who it is made by. http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

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7. August 2005 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lets just say they won't last 100yrs as the manufacturers used to say
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8. August 2005 @ 01:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...what the last 3 guys just said. Avoid cheapy media or you will be rebuying/recopying/not watching the cheapy media



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8. August 2005 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Someone needs to define "Cheap Media" for those of us who have used just about every brand available with No Problems three or four years after the burns.

While I will agree that some "Garbage" media may not be the best bet, I will NOT AGREE that it won't go the distance (last a long time) or burn properly (error free) if reasonable care is exercised.

Everyone has an opinion about this subject, and I respect all sides of the issue, but a blanket statement that all Cheap Media is BAD, is just flat not true (or fair) to the readers.

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8. August 2005 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i and many ppl will (continue) to disagree with that statement i'm afraid. recommending cheapy media is very bad advice. balanced advice is fine, but recommending proven inferior media is not good advice, PERIOD. Of course there are some cheapER media tha's good, what i and many ppl object to is PROVEN landfill media being recommended. Enough of that kind of thing goes on at cdfreaks, where CMC is highly regarded for instance, however we here have a never ending influx of ppl with media woes



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Just to add to creakys statement, prodisc is one of those cheap medias that you can either get very lucky and get some MCC made media or some real garbage. Regarding prodisc you have better chances with DVD-R of getting some good or acceptable media. I tried some prodisc DVD+R hub printables media code prodisc R03 and although when burned with my litey they were completely unreadable but when burned with my benq they played fine and scanned out almost as good as my verb MCC003's. Since they are not compatable with every burner I never recommend them to anyone. I will always recommend verbatum and taiyo yuden.

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10. August 2005 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm trying to burn the movie kung fu hustle heres the problem when it burns i get about a five minute black space before the movie starts using One click ,tried decrypter
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10. August 2005 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@grafton - that i think is down to the copying method, don't think we can blame that one on atrocious media :)

edit - try here, it's becoming yet another film to generate umpteen threads -

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/217221
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/219756



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10. August 2005 @ 15:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How about your compression settings...for best results they should be between 62-75%. If you cant get them that low run through shrink twice.
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10. August 2005 @ 16:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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for best results they should be between 62-75%. If you cant get them that low run through shrink twice
Say What?

100% is ideal.It means there is no compression!That's my goal.

75% means it is being compressed 25%.








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10. August 2005 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
100% is ideal but the amount of quality lost at 75% is virtually unnoticable unless your a rabbit. My point was throughout 3 pages of the thread, I didn't see any mention of compression ratios. Only crappy media and hardware incompatability issues. Compression ratios under 62% will give you pixellation and stuttering, pausing and skipping towards the outer edge of the disc.

Thanks for the reply though.
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10. August 2005 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well in regards to wat LOCOENG just posted bout loss of quality i go through all the steps when rippin a DVD from DVD Decrypter to DVD Shrink and then using CloneDVD 2 I leave it at 100% after shrink compressed it already and i dont see any diffrence. but i do agree if u complress at a lower level which i have done b4 with an AVI file it does not turn out good.

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10. August 2005 @ 17:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When the compression gets that low,I just use the max smoothness setting in the backup options.
60% is no trouble for me using 1 disc only and my playback is great.

Duckbyte hasn't posted for a while and this thread got a little off topic.




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18. August 2005 @ 22:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so wise one how does one up the power? running xp on H{ pav t380a
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???



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18. August 2005 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am wondering how to icrease the power to the burner as mntioned in previous thread. can i ensure the burner is getting max power so i can burn at consistent rates
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i think you should read the replies to the power supply issue instead..



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18. August 2005 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im unable to locate just thought someone there may know
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what was the previous thread ?, ie can you paste the link here..



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19. August 2005 @ 08:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Helenb, on your power supply on 1 of the sides is a label that is marked with the wattage on it. what is that wattage?? because you have a hp case, the power supply might be smaller dimension wise as a standard power supply's dimensions are 5.25"(14cm)deep x 3.25"(8.3cm)high x 5.875"(15cm)wide so see if your power supply is about the same size or not. the part about extra power to the burner is b.s. as it is what the burner likes in cd/dvd disks that counts.
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@LOCOENG
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Compression ratios under 62% will give you pixellation and stuttering, pausing and skipping towards the outer edge of the disc.
If you are getting this at the end of the disk you burned to close to the edge, known to happen with cheap media. Reset your target size to 4300. And as Saugmon stated use Max Smoothness.



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19. August 2005 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Anything requiring 30% compression or more goes to RB/CCE in my house and since I use only good quality media the default target size for RB/CCE never causes any problems. No freezing or pixelating throughout entire backup. I'm getting ready to encode a 7.22 gb folder and I'm sure there won't be any problems as I encode 7.35 gb on a regular basis with no problems and virtually no noticable loss in video quality. Oh how I love RB/CCE or can you tell.

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I use el cheapo Verbatim's in 100 disc spindles from Sam's and have no troubles at all with any of the above mentioned problems. (Not anymore that is) But thanks for the advice. Before Decrypter got busted and moved I used to frequent the forums there and the advice I gave came from there and has worked for me for quite some while.
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After about my 1500th verbatim burn, I had a couple discs skip on me the other night. That'll teach me to multitask during burn (wouldn't mind but I only do 4x). Anyway, reburned those 2 and a load more from the sub tub and they're all fine. Defragged afterwards just to be sure. Thought my trusty verbs were gonna let me down for a while therw



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