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30. March 2006 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To quote ireland
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"Lets Paint The Kettle Black,Do We Have A Bitch On Whats Going On Around The Site

DO NOT NAME MEMBERS NAMES IN YOUR BITCHING!!!!!!!!!"
laurenzo -- your opinion is your opinion, but please respect others..

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30. March 2006 @ 22:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and BTW brobear is one of the best members in the fourm .and iam sure his NOT seeking any power what so ever so get off his case !!
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30. March 2006 @ 22:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If AD were to introduce the Karma system, which I think is a good idea, how many posters are going to bother rating their "assistance' while now most do not even bother to get back with the results they have achieved after being helped, you only have to go back through the threads and see for yourself.

My take on the matter is that there are a certain few who haunt the safety valve forum, bumping up their post count and possibly achieving a higher status in a shorter time.

One solution that has been suggested on a number of occasions is DO NOT count posts from safety valve, after all it's virtually only a "CHAT" forum for members.

The opinions I expressed earlier are my opinions only and I stand by them.
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30. March 2006 @ 22:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Why do people have to whinge all the time about members being promoted
Ummm..Are you against your own opinion
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My take on the matter is that there are a certain few who haunt the safety valve forum, bumping up their post count and possibly achieving a higher status in a shorter time.
Just wondering
laurenzo
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30. March 2006 @ 22:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the shoe fits.
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30. March 2006 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's an idea. Why not Close the Saftey Valve.



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laurenzo
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30. March 2006 @ 23:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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31. March 2006 @ 03:24 Report an offensive post
To quote ireland

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"Lets Paint The Kettle Black,Do We Have A Bitch On Whats Going On Around The Site

DO NOT NAME MEMBERS NAMES IN YOUR BITCHING!!!!!!!!!"
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laurenzo -- your opinion is your opinion, but please respect others..
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regor
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30. March 2006 @ 23:55 Report an offensive post
no no no... this thread is not properly named... it should be the:

KUDOS to GrandpaBW thread
Fantastic, keep at it GrandpaBW thread
You are doing it GrandpaBW thread
Get out and walk GrandpaBW thread
Excercise helps, oh btw GrandpaBW thread
We are proud of you GrandpaBW thread

who cares if we are on topic concidering the other posts

and so on and so forth GrandpaBW thread....
Nobody stood up for this member.So it's OK to BAG him then

As a FOOTNOTE: I noticed that the following replied to grandpaBW
LethalB
arniebear and
aabbccdd.....looks like he's having a go at you guys, you say Nothing but jump on me...please, give me a break.

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laurenzo
Because you dislike the spin a person has on the situation, you get personal and call them power mongers or ill informed as to the true nature of things. You have your opinion and are welcome to it.

At no time have I ever sought a position of power here at AD. I'm a forum Admin on a couple of forums and I don't go around banning members. In fact over the past 2 years, I've banned less than 5 and that was for flagrant abuse of forum rules. Then it was with the agreement of other staff members, not a rash decision of my own. In the not so distant past, senior members were shown courtesy and if a disagreement arose, it was handled on the merit of what was in the discussion, not personal feelings.

Over the past couple of years, I've helped in the hardware section. A lot of things there spin off to discussion, it does cover quite a bit of the latest hardware and technology though. I'm also a regular in the Newbie section and I have a high success rate, or at least I get a lot of thanks for helping. One of the reasons I can cover a lot of area is because I build my own PCs and have an extensive software and DVD movie library. I've been guilty of going out and buying a DVD just because the copyrright protection system was new. That so I could actually say I'd done that release and a certain method accomplished the backup. Usually I look for an easy method a novice can use. So, in the end, my bitch is still being harangued by members with a padded count trying to be self important. I know who I am and don't need the laurels. As I stated before, with the current state of affairs, the staff is welcome to change my rank back to Newbie.

The topic of forum member ranking came up in another thread and this was suggested as a place more appropriate to restate it. So, now I've stated my opinion in the right place as well as the wrong one. It was known that I didn't agree, as a lot of Seniors and Addicts at the time didn't agree, it was a good plan of action for automatic (post count) advancement. Most everyone realized what would happen and it has. Members promoted without consideration of their knowledge or ability to help others has been the over all problem. That alone wouldn't cause problems, but when some of them achieve their lofty status, they suddenly become an expert on everything.

Much of what I've learned has been with long hours of study and research. I'm not a specialist, but I have hours of college classes on PCs, software and theory. Add to that a lot of hands on experience and you have a picture of my knowledge of hardware and software. I'm about as comfortable installing a mobo with new BIOS as installing a new app. Just to keep my finger in the software arena I keep a number of DVD backup specific titles in my collection.

DVD2One, DVDneXtCopy, DVD X Rescue, DVD X Copy Platinum RF, DVDFab, Platinum (Gold and Express), DVDFab Decrypter, CloneDVD 2, AnyDVD, InterVideo DVDCopy4, Nero 7, ProCoder 2, CCE, HC, InterVideo WinDVD 7, DVDReMake Pro, DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, DivX Player, DivX Converter, WinAVI Video Converter, VSO ConvertXtoDVD, PgcEdit, FixVTS, Imgburn, IsoBuster, UltraISO, and Rebuilder are some of the programs I have loaded on this PC. VSO's CopytoDVD, Blindwrite and some others could be quickly installed if I feel the need. Alcohol 120, 1ClickDVD and DVDSanta are available in my software library. Speaking of DVDSanta, I need to reinstall it, it's an overlooked gem. Poor name, but good software for the buck. But I'm going astray, the point is, I have and know this software and am capable of helping others with it (including the ability to edit and upload screenshots to help members that don't understand how something works or where a control is in a hidden box (drop downs, control option windows, and supported software options for example). That quote, "a picture is worth a thousand words", is very true.

With all the software listed above, there's some I haven't listed and there's still a host of AV and PC utilities I have and have tried for taking care of the system and the software installed. Now you know why I have those large hard drives. LOL

Still, I realize I don't know it all and I'm constantly having things added to my knowledge base. The best thing I ever learned from one of my college professors is that a person can't know it all. One of the best things a person can learn is to admit not knowing everything and not trying to remember everything and know the sources to find information when needed. Ideally the forum is supposed to be such a place with a kmowledgable collection of people involved in doing the latest backups with the best software applications. It's those who post without knowing what they're talking about that hurt that scenario, with some of those just posting to flatter their own ego. You have some who regurgitate only what they've heard here on the forum with no personal experience with a topic. How many times have I heard "Memosux" to find out the person saying it only knows other forum members are saying it?

As for the Safety Valve, I rarely post here. Things get more hostile here than on the rest of the forum. It's here for venting, not attacking. Even here, discussions should be on merit and not just personal feelings. Hopefully there's some reason to justify the bitching. ;) Then everyone needs a good rant on occasion, just don't get personal and call names.

If things keep going the way they are, I may join Jerry. I suspect there are those who wouldn't miss me and some who would be happy to see me go. ;)



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laurenzo
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31. March 2006 @ 01:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A brief response, as always.
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31. March 2006 @ 01:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ireland
Great save on that PC. Too bad about the mouse. If I'd known, I could have passed one along. Seems I have more mouse{s), (mice?), than I do PCs. Best thing I ever found along the lines of throwaway electronics was a big boom box. It has digital tuning with cd and the works. It's a big Panasonic, but still portable enough to take out on the lake with us. All I had to do was take it apart and use a heat gun to dry the circuits. My neighbor had let it get wet. It wasn't soaked, just damp inside. I was going to return it, but he'd already bought another and said I'd fixed it, so just keep it. The cd player hadn't worked for him in sometime. That was just a switch adjustment on the door. Nothing like that PC you found though. My bitch, I've never found a perfectly good PC setting in the garbage for me to find. Old P2s setting in storage don't count. LOL

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31. March 2006 @ 01:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
laurenzo
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A brief response, as always.
I guess you find fault with that as well. Do you want us to leave this thread to you and only post as you see fit? You're the one who questioned my credentials, I regret it took so long to list them. LOL ... and I still realize I don't know it all. What I like about the forum, I can still learn things and be helpful while I'm here.

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@brobear, I for one don't particularly care what your credentials are or what position of power you hold on other forums.
Here at AD you have only as much power as other members except for the mods. In my opinion it wasnt necessary for you to waffle on once again telling all how clever or skilled you are.

I for one also possess skills but dont find it necessary to publish the fact. Nobody is ever right, or knows as much do they.
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I for one also possess skills but dont find it necessary to publish the fact. Nobody is ever right, or knows as much do they.
LOL You just posted you have skills. ;) Why not use them more for the good of other members? There's more to it than just showing up and providing a link so a newb won't have to do a bit of googling on their own. Obviously you have an attitude and a proverbial axe to grind. As for others being right, you're the one making insinuations along those lines. You were the one to mention I was power hungry for some reason. I merely pointed out I already had positions and didn't abuse them. I've already gone farther than I should have in discussing anything with you. Unfortunately, you've come to the wrong place. From one of the famous movie characters, "Frankly, I don't give a damn." Good luck with your pursuits and I hope you get the chip off your shoulder.

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laurenzo
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31. March 2006 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With that I bid you good evening!
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Thanks laurenzo. I'll have to remember not to say anything about myself when mentioning where I'm coming from; even when it's in response to insinuations or bold statements made about me. I regret you took it as bragging. However, I did note on a couple of occasions that I don't know it all and there's plenty of room for me to learn. I can't help it if some find what I do know offensive.

No one has much to worry about me becoming a mod here at AD. I don't have the aspirations and I've rubbed some of the staff the wrong way in the past. I'm not one of those seeking a power base with forum politics. It's getting close to spring and I'll be getting out of the house and back to my life away from the PC.

I'll just cut back to posting on some regular threads and leave the "brain" work to those better suited for it. ;)

Morning here. ;)
G'Day all.

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Props to the pair of your here, brobear & laurenzo. It's nice to see that people can have their little differences, solve them & move on. Doesn't seem to happen at AfterDawn much anymore..

I hope people learn from this example next time they decide to start a flamer..
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31. March 2006 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@lethal...was that a tongue in cheek response or have I missed something?,,,,duh!
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gerry1
;) We did wish each other a good day and let things drop. It's apparent we're not likely to agree, but we're not continuing the discussion and letting it turn into a flamer. That's all it could turn out to be if it continued and then the mods would have to talk to us. They have enough work as it is.

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Then I certainly do agree with Lethal!
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Discuss.....







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31. March 2006 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i got a bitch. i missed out on some action in that thread Jizmak just referenced :O :)

some other mod got to it before me, think it was the Nephster hehe



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31. March 2006 @ 09:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@brobear,

Your vast knowledge is appreciated more than you know! Living in the country, I can attest spring has indeed sprung. The ornamentals are in full bloom, and the new born lambs are such a precious sight. Have a good day!
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mackdl
most think old sheep are better,*(so their......

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mackdl
Thank you. Today is rainy in my area or I'd be out and about. There's nothing like spring. I can't even complain about the rain as it makes everything bloom better and helps end the danger of forest fires.

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I don't think I'd have shown a personal take on sheep like that. LOL

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