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Health issues and the effects of cannabis
-Wikipedia

There is little conclusive scientific evidence about the long-term effects of human cannabis consumption.[23] The findings of many earlier studies purporting to demonstrate the effects of the drug are unreliable and generally regarded as junk science, as the studies were flawed, with strong bias and poor methodology. The most significant confounding factor is the use of other drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, by test subjects in conjunction with cannabis. When subjects using only cannabis were combined in the same sample with subjects using other drugs as well, researchers could not reach a conclusion as to whether their findings were caused by cannabis, other drugs or the interaction between them. In addition, research using cannabis is heavily restricted in many countries, making it difficult to get new studies funded or approved. Since there are so many different compounds in cannabis, it is difficult to predict or accurately measure its effects.

Some conclusions established with some degree of certainty, however, are that cannabis is less likely to cause emphysema or cancer than tobacco[24]; that sustained early-adolescent cannabis use among certain genetically predisposed individuals has an elevated correlation with certain mental illness outcomes, ranging from momentary minor psychotic episodes to clinical schizophrenia [25][26]; that cannabis use is generally higher among schizophrenics, but causality has not been established[27][28]; that it temporarily impairs motor skills; that it is unlikely to cause birth defects or developmental delays in the children of users,[29][30] and in a study done by the University of California Los Angeles in 2006, that even heavy marijuana smokers do not increase their risk for lung cancer.[31]

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Cannabis cancer risk played down

Cannabis smoke is less likely to cause cancer than tobacco smoke, a leading US expert says.

Dr Robert Melamede, of the University of Colorado, said that, while chemically the two were similar, tobacco was more carcinogenic.

He said the difference was mainly due to nicotine in tobacco, whereas cannabis may inhibit cancer because of the presence of the chemical THC.

But health campaigners warned against complacency.

Cannabis remains the most commonly-used drug in the UK with one in 10 people using it in the last year, according to the British Crime Survey.


Smoke from tobacco and cannabis contains many of the same carcinogens, and cell damage linked to lung cancer has been found in the lungs of chronic cannabis smokers
Jean King, of Cancer Research UK

The Class C drug, which was downgraded in 2004, has already been linked to mental health problems and breathing difficulties.

But scientists are also exploring whether it can be used to treat a range of conditions, including multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer's disease.

Dr Melamede said whereas nicotine activated carcinogenic compounds, THC - one of 60 cannabinoids derived from the cannabis plant - had been shown to inhibit them in mice cells.

"Compounds found in cannabis have been shown to kill numerous cancer types including lung, breast, prostate, leukaemia, lymphoma and skin cancer."

But he said the effects of cannabis were complex as evidence also suggested low doses of THC could stimulate growth of lung cancer cells.

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And he added the two could interact as cannabis was often smoked with tobacco.

"It is possible that as the cannabis-consuming population ages, the long-term consequences of smoking cannabis may become more similar to what is observed with tobacco.

"However, current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco smoke."

Jean King, director of tobacco control at Cancer Research UK, said many of the studies that had looked at the link between cancer and cannabis had used purified cannabinoids.

"Results from such studies may not represent the overall effects of cannabis smoke, which contains more than 400 chemicals.

"Smoke from tobacco and cannabis contains many of the same carcinogens, and cell damage linked to lung cancer has been found in the lungs of chronic cannabis smokers."

And she added there should be no complacency as cannabis was often smoked with tobacco, which is responsible for a quarter of all cancer deaths in the UK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4350642.stm
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16. July 2006 @ 17:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Kevinhhh, knock off the language!! post edited
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17. July 2006 @ 01:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, most people dont care about what you put in your body. They care about what you'll do when you get high or mentally unstable.



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first off,
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"Results from such studies may not represent the overall effects of cannabis smoke, which contains more than 400 chemicals.
Loads of plants have about 400 or so, watermelon has about 360 odd. One of my mates (stoner) who seems to have done alot of research on cannabis and its use, told me a few weeks ago that it does in a way prevent cancer, it limits the bloodflow to cancerous cells so they die. And he also says that yes it does kill brain cells but only old dieing ones. Dunno where he gets his info from ill ask him for some links.

But most studies havent been able to really prove much damage caused by it, sure the fact that its normally smoked is bad, but people can add it to food and eat it (most people dont) to remove that prob.
And i read the other day a liquid form of THC has been developed so that it can be injected (maybe even eaten) for medicinal use.

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Well, most people dont care about what you put in your body. They care about what you'll do when you get high or mentally unstable.
Most people would say alcohol is worse in this arena. Even though marijuana has an impairing effect on motor skills, driving under the influence of drugs, or DUID laws only exist in 13 states*. Compare that to drunk driving.

*RI, VA, PA, GA, MI, IL, IN, WI, MN, IA, UT, NV, and AZ, if you're curious.
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Many years ago, I got into an accident which resulted in some pretty nasty spinal cord injuries and a lot of surgery over the years. I've been taking narcotics three times a day since.

When that case about medical marijuana use went to the supreme court, CNN had one of the people who was suing...she went on and on about how pot was the only thing that helped her pain and that it even worked better than the narcotics she was taking so I decided to try it myself (smoked a lot of it when I was a kid in my "hippie"days). It only seemed to make the pain worse...weather the pain was actually worse or the pot simply made me more aware of it, I don't know. I tried it twice with the same results both times. If it works for that lady then I'm glad for her but it only seemed to increase the pain as it applied to me.
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24. July 2006 @ 23:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
theres no question your better off not smoking the stuff!!!
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24. July 2006 @ 23:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just wait until you're 18 and smoke cigars like i do :-)


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29. July 2006 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The THC in pot is not water soluble, so those who drink excessive amounts of water are fooling themselves, a lot of the detection depends on how much and how often you smoke. The THC binds to the fat in your body. I'm a nursing student (but don't necessarily think pot is the worst thing for you, it does have medicinal puposes!) who has learned all about the process. If you really want to play football, don't chance it.

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weed rocks u should not be at risk if u can control your habbit besides its better than LOTS of other drugs





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29. July 2006 @ 18:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For those using it medicinally(aren't we all lol)and are worried about the lung damage you could eat it in brownies, cookies,etc.

That way your not damaging your body.I know people with cancer and aids have a weak immune system so this is a way to take your medicine without further deteriorating your body.

@lexz I aggree with you, it's not physically addictive like most drugs.

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ah yes cigars... my friend is growing his own tobacco (anyone seen how small the seeds are, like 8000 in like 1/2 a tablespoon) so homemade cigars, its gunna be awesome. And later on can make blunts (cannabis cigars).
And yea to eliminate basicly all damage just cook and eat it, the fact that its fat soluble you can just mix it in with butter and have popcorn.

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Does your friend live near the Carolinas?

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nah not located in the US or wherever, he's (same as me) in the middle of nowhere, down in New Zealand.

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The real response:

NOT LONG ENOUGH!




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LOL tell me about 200 bucks for only a weeks worth.

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If ya ever need any, just go down to the local store...



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geez tycobb 200 a week, you should spend half that on some good quality seeds and grow your own, thats what ive been doing in about a month or 2 they should be ready. I so cant wait.

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Smoking weed is not so bad, a lot better than alcohol. Pot is a mellow drug which makes you relax and laugh with your friends.
However I would be careful not to get caught smoke it since its illegal.
For everyone that has been posting horrible facts about smoking weed let me tell you: I have been smoking for last 17 years almost every day. I have tried other drugs but never as a habit. I have a six figure job and married waiting for our first child. Most of my friends smoke as well and all are successful professional people and most already have totally normal kids.
I also found this forum because my new job requires pre-employment drug screening. Check out http://www.erowid.org good please to do drug research.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml
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Sorry Doublepost by lag

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I have a six figure job and married waiting for our first child.
I hope your wife isn't smoking it with your unborn child.

http://www.infantbabymaternity.com/baby/things_to_avoid_for_unbor...


I believe you when you say that successful people smoke pot. Why does everybody stereotype "potheads" As bums. But I would never ever smoke pot, because there is a reason it is illegal. And its dangerous. Also you don't know if you have an underlying problem. SOmetimes if you do it could make it worse. I mean you only live once, why waste your money on stupid drugs to feel good for a little bit. I don't know it seems really stupid. Anyway it's up to what you think.....But I really think pot is a real killer on your body, even though alot of drugs are alot worse.....
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A short summary with some basic truths...
CANNABIS IS NON-TOXIC. Not one person has ever lethally overdosed on THC, the main psychoactive compound found mostly in the flowers of the plant. I am even unable to find a case where pure cannabis has physically harmed any part of the body.

Cannabis isn't nearly as addictive as cigarettes and is MUCH safer than alcohol. Law consistency is crucial in order to have a free, responsible society, don't you think?

Cannabis has medical value, or there would be no such thing as the prescription drug Marinol®, which is synthetic THC. Both are used to ease nausea, pain and other discomforts. Marinol takes more than an hour for the person to feel relief (Compared to less than 3 minutes with smoked or vaporized cannabis), and has a tendency to get the person too high, since it must be metabolized through the liver (Compared to taking a few tokes, feeling enough relief, then stopping). Marinol is also very expensive and filled with man-made things, whereas cannabis, when legal, would only cost what any plant would cost to grow and it's simply a dried flower.
And now, GW Pharmaceuticals has developed Sativex, an under-the-tongue spray using real, isolated THC and cannabinoids mainly developed to decrease painful spasms in Multiple Sclerosis patients. It is literally liquid cannabis, just way more expensive. And guess what else?? Canada approved Sativex to be sold by the company Bayer, proving once and for all that God's gift to us, Cannabis Sativa, does indeed have medical benefits, imagine that!

The ?Gateway Theory? and ?Amotivational Syndrome? associated with cannabis use have been proven false by the Institute of Medicine?s 1999 book, Marijuana and Medicine. (See it at www.nap.edu - Please copy & paste) If the gateway theory were so true, there would be an enormous problem with hard drugs since millions of people smoke cannabis everyday. For most people, caffeine, nicotine and alcohol are the first drugs they try, so if anything were to be called gateway drugs, it would be these three. And still, many people never go beyond alcohol.

These are facts as posted by a group looking to legalize the drug
http://makepotlegal555.org/WHY-
but facts that cant be disputed by people against it.
But anyone looking to keep things the way they are cant argue with facts and science. If people are not interested in fact and science, maybe their belief and knowledge system comes from a higher power. If its a higher power I'll use the Bible for my cause
GENESIS 3:11-12
11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
I'd rather have a cannabis than a can a beer anyday.

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Funny story in the paper the other day, the cops noticed a huge marijuana plant growing in someones front yard so they knocked on the door and come to find out it was an old couple and the lady kept watering because "it was so pretty". They had no idea what it was :P



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