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27. July 2007 @ 03:09 |
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Well if a parent cant control their child without resorting to physical violence, then theres something wrong anyway.
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27. July 2007 @ 03:26 |
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Originally posted by billybob:
Well if a parent cant control their child without resorting to physical violence, then theres something wrong anyway.
It didn't have anything to do with their parents and physcal violence, did it? >.<
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27. July 2007 @ 03:28 |
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Public hanging? Yeah, go write the nanny state a letter on that one!
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27. July 2007 @ 03:31 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Public hanging? Yeah, go write the nanny state a letter on that one!
lmao.
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27. July 2007 @ 03:45 |
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Ripper, look at the post i was replying too.
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27. July 2007 @ 03:49 |
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What a great country! No one has a care in the world. Life's great.
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27. July 2007 @ 03:53 |
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Originally posted by billybob:
Ripper, look at the post i was replying too.
Oh i see, you weren't replying to the news article - sorry, I didn't even bother reading the other posts, lol.
And Garmoon, I live in the UK so pfft :P
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27. July 2007 @ 04:23 |
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Originally posted by billybob:
Well if a parent cant control their child without resorting to physical violence, then theres something wrong anyway.
I'm not talking about physical violence, I'm talking about a good ole smack on the bottom if you mess up beyond the "time out" corner.
What you're referring to is what I think the problem is with most children. Parents think, because of a book they've read or some BS they've seen on TV that a child shouldn't be disciplined with a corrective swat every once in a while. I think beatings are deplorable and shouldn't ever happen but using the "in control" corrective swat is a must for most children.
Where you get into trouble is when you try to reason with a child, mainly under 10 years of age. THEY CAN'T REASON!!!!! They have no concept of how the world works or how it can be. You WILL NOT understand this until you have children of your own. TRUST ME!!!
OK, starting again........sorry. NO offense billyboy. :)
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27. July 2007 @ 04:32 |
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Greensman: Or when your summer job involves teaching them!
Ripper: hooray, it amazes me just how many people from the UK there are on this site.
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27. July 2007 @ 04:32 |
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NO offense billyboy. :)
Not at al my friend :)
However, i think that children would (and do) gain much more respect for their parents....well no, scrub that. I think that parents EARN more respect from their children when they use tone of voice and facial expressions and body stance etc to authoritize (is that even a word?).
Just MHO, i believe that if children are brought up fearing the "corrective swat" if they do something wrong, then they are fearing it for the entirely wrong reasons. I try to teach my lil bro that thigns are just wrong, that you dont do them, id never "swat" him, and i think he does what he's told more when i tell him because of that.
Like yous aid...maybe i wont understand until i have children.
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27. July 2007 @ 04:37 |
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Originally posted by billybob:
Well if a parent cant control their child without resorting to physical violence, then theres something wrong anyway.
there is a difference in Physical violence and handing out a good BUTT whipping. greensman is right the kids now days dont have any respect for anything, they think the world ows them something for just the fact they are alive.
if i was to act like kids do now days my parents would have tanned my hide so fast i couldnt see straight.
every kid is gonna rebal thats just part of growing up, but when they have no respect for there parents or there elders thats when the belts and paddles need to be brought back into the picture...
the world is a place of political correctness. not CORRECTNESS itself.
the courts are worried more about a murderers rights and offending them, to hell with them you gave up all rights when you broke the law.wheres the victims right to live or not be beaten, stole from ect.....
like i said in the begining here there is a difference in the physical violence and a good ass whipping. you can punish a child without putting that childs life in danger. thats what/how i was brought up and beleive in.
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just look in the past, like greensman and other have said, the rate of violence that deal with kids is at a alarming rate. there is no fear in these kids, no remorse for what they do. i mean for instance here in cincinnati last week a 14yo boy got his GF pregnant, when he found this out him and 2 of his friends found the girl and beat her near death. him, hiself jumped and kicked the girl in the stomach repeatidly, and when arrested he said what he did there was nothing wrong with what he did, he didnt want the baby anyway... hell he aint nothing but a baby himself..
now do you think a harsh word or a stern look or a agrresive stance would have prevented this boy from doing what he did.... not in my eyes it wouldnt.
i know there are quite a bit of younger members here, and by no means am i saying you guys are any where near like the people we are talking about in these cases, but you guys just havent grown up enough to really know what its like to have lived just back 15-20 years ago. heck when i was in school i got swats from the principle then when i got home got it from my mom, then when my dad got home from work i got it again from him... its all about respect and there isnt any of that any more...
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27. July 2007 @ 04:45 |
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"Respect for their elders"
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This. When the person is a stranger, or you are not familiar with the elder person, then yes, i believe that people should respect their elders.
But i also feel that this doesnt last forever....respect needs to be earnt.
(i mean this for teenages respecting elders)
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27. July 2007 @ 04:50 |
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@Fredbun:
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e.g. here in Philly the murder rate has gotten so high and so out of hand that it made the 6.30 national news.
Yeah, it's really aweful. We made national news twice in the last couple of weeks. Most recently, it was because we had 22 shootings in a twenty four hour period; seven of them were killed and a bunch more are expected to die. A week or so before, we made CNN with a clip of dumba$$ mayor Street imploring the youth of Philly to "put the guns down and join in a city wide "cease fire" ... how stupid can you get! Even as we speak, I have my own problems with a convicted murder I had to deal with who should never have been let out of jail in the first place. Threats were made, an office is being set up for me where I have quick and unobstructed access out the door etc. A few years ago, someone with the same job of approving/disapproving government grants in Philly got beaten to a pulp with some guy with a baseball bat and will be disabled for the rest of his days... I guess he's lucky that it was a baseball bat, now they simply shoot you.
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27. July 2007 @ 05:00 |
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no you are correct billybob respect should be earnt not just handed out. and just what you said couldnt have been said any better. if its a older person or someone you dont know you give them there respect they deserve just for the time the have put in and things they have seen and done.
like i said you younger guys/gals(if there is any) in here arent the same kids we are talking about that are out theredoing these horrific things... you have your attitudes(as do us older guys) but you can see right from wrong, and if the truth be known, you have had a swat or 2 in you short lived years so far...lol
once again im not trying to offened you younger guys, just trying to show you a point of veiw that isnt that old in itself...
we have a wide range of age here at AD we have the youngster like yourself billiybob,ripper.ect the middle of the road guys like greensman, myself, then the older farts like gerry1,garmoon ect. and each one of us have learned respect from our parents and thats the way it should be...
i know im just rambling but this is something i take to heart, i have 3 boys soon to be 9yo-5yo-3yo. and they will learn respect the same way i did. get praise when they do good and get the paddle when doing wrong..
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27. July 2007 @ 05:11 |
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Cincyrob, i rarely get offended...its normally be accidently offending people :P
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we have a wide range of age here at AD we have the youngster like yourself billiybob,ripper.ect the middle of the road guys like greensman, myself, then the older farts like gerry1,garmoon ect. and each one of us have learned respect from our parents and thats the way it should be...
HAHAHAHAHA! Well said my friend. Well said.
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27. July 2007 @ 05:16 |
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So 19y2m22d would make me a youngster then? :P
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27. July 2007 @ 05:18 |
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I have NO idea what you just siad sam :)
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27. July 2007 @ 05:19 |
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Cyncyrob said"
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then the older farts like gerry1,garmoon ect
Young whippersnapper you! Garmmon and I will show you that you're not too old for a paddling yourself LOL!
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27. July 2007 @ 05:20 |
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Young whippersnapper you!
LOL! Ah gerry, what would we do without you.
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27. July 2007 @ 05:26 |
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Billybob, it was my age.
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27. July 2007 @ 05:27 |
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Originally posted by gerry1:
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then the older farts like gerry1,garmoon ect
Young whippersnapper you! Garmmon and I will show you that you're not too old for a paddling yourself LOL!
lmao paddling youself now that is a total different topic there...lol maybe the whippersnappers shouldnt see/read...lol
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27. July 2007 @ 05:29 |
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gerry1, yeah I know my friend, this whole subject has really got my goat, I like to turn on the news at 6 mainly cause I want to check out the weather and sports, its the in between like our shootings and murders here in Philly we have to watch between sports and weather, I mean Philly always has been a pretty ruff town but what has been happining lately is unreal, Philly for some reason has turned into a pagen society, there was a time I use to be proud to anounce I was from Philly, south philly especially, but now, this town has gone down the crapolla.
Than of course always when I get a chance to watch the national news at 6.30 bieng a vet myself I'm always intersted on how our boys are doing, than I need to be reminded about Philly nationally, jeez give me a break.
Than you see things like that poor family in Conn. that got wiped out, and worse yet if you can call it that those two teenage kids in Kentucky or Tenn. whichever, that were so brutally and savagly ripped apart before they murdered them, that doctor from Conn. that survived, his wife and two daughters gone, and the parents of the two teens, I would not be able to go on living I'm sorry, I would make it my mission in life for outright revenge even if it meant me spending the rest of my life in jail or even getting killed myself with a shoot out with the cops trying to get to those animals, I would gladly accept my demise to get my chance at justice, sorry I got to get off I'm sitting here grinding my teeth.
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27. July 2007 @ 05:32 |
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Cincyrob"
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paddling youself now
OOPS! Freudian slip. Now you guys know my dirty little secret LMAO!
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27. July 2007 @ 05:53 |
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Billybob, it was my age.
Im such an idiot haha.
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27. July 2007 @ 05:56 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ripper: hooray, it amazes me just how many people from the UK there are on this site.
Where abouts you from Sam? :D
Originally posted by billybob:
Im such an idiot haha.
Well... :-P
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