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Best Buy publicly snuffs HD-DVD

article published on 12 February, 2008

The largest electronics chain the U.S. has announced that it will begin focusing its recommendations to customers toward Sony's Blu-ray technology, according to an article by Reuters. "Because we believe that Blu-ray is fast emerging as that single format, we have decided to focus on Blu-ray products," Brian Dunn, Best Buy's president and chief operating officer, said in a statement Monday. ... [ read the full article ]

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goodswipe
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14. February 2008 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eatsushi:
1080p/24 has been enabled since the 1.3 firmware for the A30 and A35.

However, avs members are reporting problems with "jaggies" with the new 2.0 firmware when outputting 1080p/24. Some are even reverting back to the 1.3 firmware because of this problem.

My XA2 also had this problem with 24fps "jaggies" on the 2.8 firmware so I reverted back to version 2.7.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=992822&page=4

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Hmm, interesting. I don't think I will be flashing mine then. I've always been a bit cautious when it comes to this sort of thing. I wonder how well they really test the FW before they release it?

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14. February 2008 @ 14:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Hmm, interesting. I don't think I will be flashing mine then. I've always been a bit cautious when it comes to this sort of thing. I wonder how well they really test the FW before they release it?
If your HDTV doesn't support 1080p/24 then you shouldn't have any problem with the new firmware. You can set the output to 1080p/60 and you should be fine. Also the "jaggies" seem to be a problem only with AVC/MPEG4 encoded titles such as Transformers.

If you still need to revert back then there's a way to do it. However, reverting to older firmware is very tricky and requires you to do some HEX editing on the firmware ISO. Basically you change the HEX value on the firmware to trick the machine into thinking that the older firmware is actually newer than the installed one. There's a guide on avsforums on how to do this.
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14. February 2008 @ 15:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Hugejars


Slysoft claims to have cracked BD+ back in Novemeber, where have you been? There are BD+ movies available on many bittorrent websites. And who wants to buy BD blank media now when it's still $10-$20 bucks a disc and the burners are still through the roof. In time when the prices are better it'll be a little more economical to do so. You're just upset because your team lost. Here is a link that might help you with your denial problems. Everywhere it says alcohol just subsitute the word HD-DVD.

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/info/a/aa981021.htm
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14. February 2008 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by OhCrap:
@ Hugejars


Slysoft claims to have cracked BD+ back in Novemeber, where have you been? There are BD+ movies available on many bittorrent websites. And who wants to buy BD blank media now when it's still $10-$20 bucks a disc and the burners are still through the roof. In time when the prices are better it'll be a little more economical to do so. You're just upset because your team lost. Here is a link that might help you with your denial problems. Everywhere it says alcohol just subsitute the word HD-DVD.

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/info/a/aa981021.htm


Lmao I think Step 3 is the toughest :P
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14. February 2008 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hughjars...thank you for the co-sign, Nephilim please don't be pissed. If you've read any of my post towards this format war in the past you can understand why I try to school the kids if you know what I mean. Not trying to start childishness in the forum in any way.

For anyone who understands the BD+ security on blu ray discs, you know what I'm getting at. If you are just the average consumer and not a programmer then do your research. BD+ has not been cracked. How could I explain it....they weren't dumb when this technology was created and thats why Sony of all companies stands strongly behind it. If we can compare it to HIV, anything that combats the blu ray system causes it to lets say mutate and correct itself when the flaw is exposed. Kind of like learning from the mistake and then correcting itself into something more immune for later discs when published. This link is to Slysoft's statement about cracking BD+.

[url=http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=9453][/url]

Now for myself and any of the other tech geeks out there.... EngadgetHD explains exactly what the problem is for us. Take note that this is poseted after the Slysoft claims in November 2007.

[url=http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/09/bd-has-not-been-compromised-yet/][/url]

The BD+ security can also be explained on Wikipedia if you doubt me. My whole statement is based on the fact that even though HD DVD was compromised, we still had the same freedom of backing up and added no region coding just as we had on standard DVD. Even Paramount and Universal knows this but they don't care. They're kinda more on the side of the people or value consumer. Even though not made public....this is the real reason why the studios started jumping ship. If you read the earlier post it states this fact. For those who enjoy having a collection of backups in the physical format...it just isn't going to happen (yet anyways)in the blu ray format. Just like I and others....Slysoft has its work cut out for them as well.

Also I would ask any of you to read more into BD-Live which is profile 2.0 . There's a reason why there are compatibility issues with profile 1.1 . This is because the security has corrected itself to the exposed vulnerability that the manufacturers now know about. I guess you can thank Slysoft for that.

Again not trying to cause any turbulence on the site but, know the facts before you start flaming in ignorance. Like I said before to you BD fans, you kind of sold your soul and didn't even know it. Vendors are backing blu ray because now they know they will definitely make a profit without piracy of the disc format. The technology of blu ray is actually genius but, until BD+ is fully cracked.....I'd chose freedom over this security anytime.
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14. February 2008 @ 17:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Sazaziel:
Also I would ask any of you to read more into BD-Live which is profile 2.0 . There's a reason why there are compatibility issues with profile 1.1 . This is because the security has corrected itself to the exposed vulnerability that the manufacturers now know about. I guess you can thank Slysoft for that.
I's like to see your source on this if possible and would appreciate a more in depth explanation.

If I understand BD+ correctly, it works even if you don't have the player connected to the internet. (Which makes sense since practically all standalones released so far have no ethernet port.) I'm also under the impression that the player profiles have nothing to do whatsoever with BD+ or any other security scheme.




http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/bd-ha...ompromised-yet/

As I have posted in another thread, one of our senior members has done a field test with the first BD-Live 2.0 title available and the main movie played fine on his 1.0 player.

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OhCrap just learned what a piss poor sense of humor I have in these threads and vinny13 got a two day vacation for his pointless post after OhCrap's blatant jab at hughjars.


I'm not kidding folks. Keep it cool or you'll be shown the door.



Sazaziel, you're fine. You've posted relevant facts whilst taking jabs at no one :)



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The end could be near.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/cont...7d0bfb0c25aa58d

Toshiba to drop HD DVD, sources say


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The format war has turned into a format death watch.

Toshiba is widely expected to pull the plug on its HD DVD format sometime in the coming weeks, reliable industry sources say, after a rash of retail defections that followed Warner Home Video's announcement in early January that it would support only the rival Blu-ray Disc format after May.

Officially, no decision has been made, insists Jodi Sally, vp of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products. "Based on its technological advancements, we continue to believe HD DVD is the best format for consumers, given the value and consistent quality inherent in our player offerings," she said.

But she hinted that something's in the air. "Given the market developments in the past month," she said, "Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players."

The article also revealed the Nielsen Videscan numbers for the week ending February 10th:

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Blu-ray Disc titles also accounted for 81% of all high-def disc sales for the week, with HD DVD at just 19%.


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Toshiba had been pitching its discounted HD DVD players toward the standard DVD crowd as well as high-def enthusiasts, noting in its ad message that the new players would make DVDs look a lot better as well. And as a last-ditch effort, the company ran an ad during the Super Bowl -- a 30-second spot that reportedly cost $2.7 million.

But in the end, sources say, the substantial loss Toshiba is incurring with each HD DVD player sold -- a figure sources say could be as high as several hundred dollars -- coupled with a series of high-profile retail defections has driven the company to at last concede defeat.

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14. February 2008 @ 20:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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- Pure speculation & rumour
Anyone can do that.
Sony set to abandon Blu-ray
http://digg.com/gaming_news/PS3_without_...itch_the_format
I read it on the internet/in a newspaper so it must be true, eh?
LMAO.

actually you read it on an obscure forum site for tech geeks from a self promoting self styled "reporter" with "inside sources " from the sony camp ;) and way too much ego - not criticising anyone here - just reflecting on what the idiot posted on that site.
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8. April 2008 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess this is the way to go when everyone else is going onthe wat of the blu-ray then if your the last one left then u will loose out more than anything if you do not make the move sooner.

The fact is blu-ray is the better choice in the features and quality however how its not the more cost effective in the long run consumers will not mind paying extra for a better product.
 
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