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GTA IV to have SecuROM DRM
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article published on 30 November, 2008
Fans patiently waiting the launch of the PC version of the blockbuster smash hit GTA IV may be disappointed today to learn that the game will launch with SecuROM 7 DRM, the brutal DRM that tarnished the release of Bioshock and Spore in the last year.
During an interview with IGN, game publisher Rockstar explained its rationale for adding the DRM saying "we invest a considerable amount ... [ read the full article ]
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8. December 2008 @ 17:16 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
Originally posted by lynchg0p:
Sad...........the vast majority of the civilised and law-abiding population will overwhelmingly agree that IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
Um, yeah, that's what all the fascists say. Sorry, you still can't cavity-search me without probable cause. Piss off.
More seriously, in the US we have this little thing called a "Constitution", which directly limits the power of anyone, public or private, to conduct ANY kind of search, whether of my home or the contents of my PC, to certain very specific cases. This is NOT one of those cases.
Originally posted by lynchg0p:
It doesn't spy on RANDOM people
It doesn't invade RANDOM privacy
It doesn't take away RANDOM rights
Oh, really? So, DRM that "phones home" with a listing of the contents of your hard drive is A-OK with you, eh? Fool. That's exactly what Sony's little rootkit did, (among other unsavory acts) and it was ruled ILLEGAL in a lawsuit. SecuROM has been implicated with similar behavior.
Originally posted by lynchg0p:
However it probably does for people like you although it's only meant for terrorism. Are you concerned that your right to make a decision to terrorize is being infringed upon??? Shame, first statement stands. Good people have nothing to worry about.[/
I'm done with this............off topic completely.
Say what? Wow, I'm glad you said this in a public forum, so I can prove people like you exist!
SecuROM has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism; it's has EVERYTHING to do with protecting corporate profits. If you disagree with this statement, please enlighten me as to where I can find these gigantic terrorist groups playing GTA IV and Spore. I'm sure Homeland Security will be all ears!
Theft, while illegal, also has nothing directly to do with terrorism, unless it precedes/enables *drum roll* AN ACTUAL ACT OF TERRORISM.
lynchg0p (or whatever username you decide to troll with next), please DON'T stop your wonderful posts. You actually made 5 people in my house laugh themselves into hysterics! I had to convince one of them I didn't post your message myself as a joke; he didn't believe anyone could be such an idiot in real life and still succesfully type.
Finally, many, many people have had issues with SecuROM actually damaging their computer. Yes, actual physical damage; it slams the optical drive's head against the stop repeatedly, potentially eventually misaligning/breaking it. The pirates have no such issue. So, if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about, hm? I guess that makes the user who bought the game wrong..?
Sheep.
Unless its a laptop or thumb drive at the border... don't you love it when the media business is able to get government to help them spy on all businesses and persons......
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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8. December 2008 @ 17:23 |
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True enough. The only thing that lets that fly is that it actually is based on very old laws, which have never been used in quite that way before. =/ In other words, unfortunatley, that IS "one of those caes".
I seriously doubt that will continue for long. Either the new administration or direct legal challenges will hose that one pretty soon, considering even big business is dead-set against it.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. December 2008 @ 17:24
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8. December 2008 @ 17:26 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
True enough. The only thing that lets that fly is that it actually is based on very old laws, which have never been used in quite that way before. =/
I seriously doubt that will continue for long. Either the new administration or direct legal challenges will hose that one pretty soon, considering even big business is dead-set against it.
I am surprised Big biz security has not taken action on it so that has to show how much of a immutable bureaucracy big biz is.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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8. December 2008 @ 23:24 |
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Just curious LynchGOP does your definition of "welfare recipient" happen to include Banks and such? :D
And how do you feel about free open-source software, should that be banned?
If Americans have been living on cheap credit for the last 7 years and farming the loans OS, isn't that just stealing/cheating?
Does your concept of "welfare recipient" extend to the free ride America has been getting from all the credit that COMMUNIST China extends to the States? The enormous financial dept that you owe that arguably "terrorist free" autocratic pirate-happy racist nation? Bearing in mind that in the next 20 years that they will no longer need the US economy to help build their own consumer base.
Next you'll be pushing Flat Earth coz that's what's written in the Bible you arrogant simpleton.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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9. December 2008 @ 00:04 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Just curious LynchGOP does your definition of "welfare recipient" happen to include Banks and such? :D
And how do you feel about free open-source software, should that be banned?
If Americans have been living on cheap credit for the last 7 years and farming the loans OS, isn't that just stealing/cheating?
Does your concept of "welfare recipient" extend to the free ride America has been getting from all the credit that COMMUNIST China extends to the States? The enormous financial dept that you owe that arguably "terrorist free" autocratic pirate-happy racist nation? Bearing in mind that in the next 20 years that they will no longer need the US economy to help build their own consumer base.
Next you'll be pushing Flat Earth coz that's what's written in the Bible you arrogant simpleton.
Rant mode engage...........be wary its over 9000
Oh god yes lets end welfare and toss people out on their ass with modern building codes and tight regulations the"unwashed" masses will gather in forests as so the rich can hunt them...next you will tell me fred and fanny may popped the artificial finical market bubble.......no no no no greed(how can you make milloins off nothing at an accelerated pace and not call it artificial?),lack of oversight and tight regulation(we have soem decent regs but holy sht are they ignored) is what has hurt us the most not charity or lack rules for a small portion of the populace to get into homes you can not blame the workers who are under paid and sick for the captains of industry going on a drinking binge and blowing 10billon on hookers for upper management, now if the workers were part of the union racket that constantly beg and stole to get more wages in a industry thats completely over saturated and in bad need of a overhaul(yes cars) then mabye so...but there again look at what the CEOs and upper management did oh gee look at this we can sell overpriced over sized vehicles ineffeint vehicles that cost alot to maintain...so we can sell more of them down the road..and..SHOCK maintain a short a sighted artificial profit bubble like all corporate run entities who base everythign on what the ECO can make and give to the stock holders.
Yes capitalism is about profit however...if you fail at the corporate level you are reabsorbed into the industry and thos around it when you are a person at ground level you are crushed because you have no where to go and this is without the hand of gov reaching down handing out golden parachutes and pats on the desk to thos failed titans of industry...
A free market is one where compies come and go all the time, thos who seek long term profits and offer a real value to the populace stay in business the rest die of their own accord because they are unsupported, if gov comes in and creates monopolies or bank rolls failed business becuse their fck budies need a loan then all he have is a presudo class of nobility trading guidled property with each other while the populace is ignored.....
The problem with the US is its a sloppy bureaucracy thats creates vague houses of nobility that protects the machine anything you do to remove parts for the lower classes will only damage it further all we can do as a society is make it run more effectively either by destroying it which is a random vague chance the way the racket is setup or start with some basics focus jobs on infrastructure and energy and green energy, get vehicle makers to amke cheap and efficient vehicles as their main line if its over 20K its not cheap and should not be focused on as the majority of the nation can not afford a large costly vehicle,hybrids are a joke at 60K+, we need a better tax system one that focuses on profit as to end the complicated and harsh corporate tax structure and the as vague personal tax system,toss it out focus on a fair tax system where you pay taxes on what you buy IE a merchant tax system you sell it be it a widget or a service you pay tax on your profit from it that right there will halve the IRS one of the biggest bureaucratic messes yet.
Also we should repeal the bans on making your own liqueur and growing pot tax it and let the populace enjoy the wealth of a nation built of its people not the corporate state.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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