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mastaprk
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3. May 2004 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In the BIOS, the max I can set the voltage is 1.8 volts and the refresh rate in the display settings is set at 75. I tried UT2003 and it work for a few minutes and then unfortunately the same results occurred and everything froze up.

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1024MB Centon PC2700
ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB DDR
IBM 60GB 7200RPM
Pioneer A07
Software: Shrink 3.1.7.6 & Nero 6

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3. May 2004 @ 20:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, pretty much sounds like the same, exact problem I was having. I dunno what else to say,good luck? I ended up rebuilding my PC clean, making the changes, and then it seemed to work. Try a different monitor, my card really didnt like me NEC FE1111SB.
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4. May 2004 @ 06:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am interested in upgrading my BIOS, I haven't done this before either, so I need some advice on how to do this and what BIOS is recommended.

PC:
Windows Home SP1
Biostar M7VIT, AMD Athlon XP 2000+
1024MB Centon PC2700
ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB DDR
IBM 60GB 7200RPM
Pioneer A07
Software: Shrink 3.1.7.6 & Nero 6

PS2 v4 fliptop:
Swap Magic DVD 2.0 & CD 3.0
Main DVD-R Ritek G04 & Piodata
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17. May 2004 @ 05:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can anyone recommend a cooler for me please, noise isnt an issue, I can live with it.
The system I am building consists of:

AMD fx53 cpu
Gigabyte GA-K8NNXP-940 mobo
Thermaltake purepower dual fan power supply (480 watt)
Thermaltake xaser III case ( includes 7x 80mm fans)
4x 250gb harddrives
1gb dual ddr OCZ memory
and either a Nvidia 6800 or ATI X800xt (when they get released:()

I am finding it really difficult to find decent reviews on coolers for the fx53, for what this is costing me i really dont want to take any risks with cooling.

The main uses of the system are DVD encoding and fps gaming (ut2004 etc).

thnx


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17. May 2004 @ 07:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Can anyone recommend a cooler for me please, noise isnt an issue, I can live with it.
Ah... music to my ears :)

Thermaltake Venus12
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/venus/rs/a1744.htm
Seemingly a nice fan although Ive never had a chance to play with it. Has 7 more fins than the Volcano12 otherwise seemingly just a K8 version.

Thermaltake Combo DIY Tower 112
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/comboCool/cl-p0024tower112/cl-p0024tower112.htm
This is prolly the most effective cooler available -- just make sure ur mobo is securly attatched to the case! :P I'd reccomend putting two fans taken from the Volcano12/Venus12 to this baby

I've also make some more K8 reccomends above. Read up! :)

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Thnx a lot the Thermaltake Combo DIY Tower 112 looks like it should do the job nicely, just got to try and find a not so useless U.K. supplier that actually stocks the thing, and maybe a pair of those street fighter fans, they look a similar design to the fan on the Thermaltake Venus12.

I feel a case mod coming on to support all that weight though :)


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1GB OCZ PC3500 dual ddr
2X 250gb western digital SATA harddrives 8mb (RAID)2x 250gb western digital IDE harddrives 8mb (RAID)
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ATI X800XT
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17. May 2004 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Depending on the fan configuration of the DIY you may want to go with a partially Aluminum HS -- Copper only good if you can evacuate the heat fast enough to keep it efficient.

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19. May 2004 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Praetor:

My Venus 12 is working great, thanks for the recomendation. The thing is friggin' loud!, but all in good taste. I generally have lots of school work also, and crack it up to stay awake! Anyway, I need another recomendarion. I would like a case ideal for cooling, so I could throw some tornadoes in there to really get the air flowing. My range is from 100-150, prefrebly with a PSU included, but it doesn't really matter. Thanks mate!

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
512MB PC2100 OC'ed to 2700
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20. May 2004 @ 07:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For 100-150 you might find either a Chenming or a Chenming-imitation (heck, they are all the same). Typically they ship with 350W PSUs. Chenming, Antec, etc all have cases that kinda look like this:

Nice cases (overused in beginner mod circles but nice cases nonetheless). It's an alumum case and comes with slots for five 80mm fans. Another case I would reccommend is the Amamex Prism.

It comes with default room for 2 standard 80mm fans (3 if you can find a low-profile 80mm fan for the right side of the case. It makes of for weight and lack of default fan slots by being made of steel = you can cut whatever holes you need without destroying the structural integrity of the case. (I use this case in the system im typing on right now -- one word of advice -- dont cut out the two support stuts in the front of the case :P)

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Zalman's a very respectable brand name so Im sure the heatsink component is extremely well made and with a good choice of thermal grease the heatsink would be killer however I would reccomend against this type of fan (as I did with the Crystal Orb fans when they were popular) for the sole reasons that (a) with that kinda of circular design, there will accompany mass quantities of dust and that dust is gonna really collect on the inside of the circular HS and annihilate its efficiency (especially so since its a copper HS and not a AL one which can handle dust) and (b) like with the Orb-fans, it seems circular/cylindrical HSF units often have a deadzone right in the middle so it might be something you might want to look at.

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27. May 2004 @ 20:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how do u make a fan intake air?

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28. May 2004 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Huh? The fan sucks in air because of its design, the blades are cut a certain way and they spin a certain way and woosh we have air .... not sure if that helps tho...

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28. May 2004 @ 06:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no what i mean is i have 4 fans that are all blowing out...i wanna make one of them blow air into the computer...

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28. May 2004 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh i see, there are 2 typical places people have intakes:
- The front fans
- Sometimes people have their side case fans intake air although i find a side exhaust works better

To make them suck in instead of blowing out, just turn them around! :)

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In the front and out the back works well for airflow as it keeps fresh air constantly passing through the case.

If you can find a heatsink that uses a "Tip Magnetic Driving" fan the dead spot in the middle will be eliminated since the fan is turned by magnets on the outside of the fan instead of having the shaft in the middle creating a dead spot. I use a Vantec Aeroflow that I've been extremely happy with and they make them for AMD chips as well. It has a big copper slug in the center to suck the heat away from the proc quickly and aluminum fins to get rid of the heat



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28. May 2004 @ 21:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a curiosity/minor-point -- given that these fans are driven along the circumference instead of the centre wouldnt there be less downward pressure exerted by the reast of the fan when compared to the centre driven ones? :)

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29. May 2004 @ 09:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey Nephilim which cpu cooler do u have?

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29. May 2004 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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hey Nephilim which cpu cooler do u have?
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/81431

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29. May 2004 @ 19:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that is which one...that link just brings u too this thread

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Notice the "/2" in "/2/81431" :P -- that means page 2 ... "this" page is "/3/81431" :P

Hehe.

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helo, i was guna buy a new athlonxp 3000+ but i cant afford it rite at the moment, i wanna overclk my athlon 2000+ to a 2200+ or more just using the fsb. wil this be possibel using stock fan ( i dont think it wil), so whats the cheapest cooling i can get to ovaclok to 2200+ or even 2400+ if possible. i am using thourougbred, asrock k7vm4 and the tempreture is normaly round the 30-40 celius when i load it up, but i dont know how hot it gets when its under stress cuz i cant chek it when its under stress
any help would b appreciated
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cuz I cant chek it when its under stress
Why not? Start a temperature monitor and leave it on "record" and then do your stuff for some time and check or (less ideally), stress the proc and then immediately restart the computer and check the bios temp monitor and add 2-5°C to that value

As to the OCing, if i remember properly, you have the Thoroughbred so you should be able to get XP2100 without changing the cooling -- you can prolly get XP2200 without changing the cooling either if you have air conditioning on and a decent chassis fan setup. Short of that, grab the Thermaltake Volcano12 (loud) Thermaltake Silentboost K7 (quiet) fans both of which are superb. There are links for them in this thread.

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31. May 2004 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cheers ur rele helpful:)
if i did buy a volcano fan would i b able to get higher than 2200+
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wats the max fsb it wil go to with stok fan
 
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