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Microsoft unveils Windows 8
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article published on 1 June, 2011
This afternoon, Microsoft unveiled Windows 8, the upcoming operating system that should be a complete overhaul from Windows 7, released in 2009.
The goal of the OS, Microsoft says, is for users to have the same great experience whether they are on a tablet or on a desktop.
Microsoft showed off a new start screen that looks reminiscent of the tile-based UI of Windows Phone 7.
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3. June 2011 @ 17:29 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't game much myself, but it's nice to have a machine that can, when I want to :p
I am more concerned that my work on HDTV multimedia development is impeded by the lack of development tools equivalent to the operating system. Win7 is great. DirectX9 and the SDK which developers are limited to requires targeting 32 bit processors. The only development solution for 64bit is SlimDX. Microsoft has to support development equivalent to their OS. They should finish their work on Win7 before pushing out Win8. One of the great powers of XP was the development that continued over a long period of time!
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3. June 2011 @ 17:39 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by jackalguy:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
I've always found it strange how some people are so scared of change that they will bash what they do not know. Windows 7 is the best MSFT operating system to date, period. Windows XP was great but it is now 10 years old, it is time to move on. Let's be honest here, as well, Vista had its annoyances but it was not "the devil" people claim it to be. Most people who bashed it never owned it, let alone tried it. If you had a dual-core computer with 2GB RAM and removed the UAC, chances are you didn't have too many problems with Vista.
Windows 8 is moving where the world is moving, touch + social. It is time to embrace change. Is it really so hard to do ONE extra click to get back to your regular computer desktop from the Win 8 start screen? No. That extra millisecond will likely not make a difference in anyone's life, yet brings a host of new options and widgets.
I am not a Microsoft fanboy by any means (I think they are a poorly run company that has killed value for their shareholders for years now) but Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 will be hits. The timeframe for that WP7 statement is up for debate, however.
Agree 100%. I find it baffling that people still insist that XP was -- and always will be -- the greatest OS of all time. I can count on one hand how many times Windows 7 x64 or Vista x64 have BSOD'd on me, and I build systems, so the majority have been from overclocking. XP on the other hand... It goes back to the point about your hardware. Of course operating systems going forward are going to utilize higher end hardware, that's just the evolution of technology. If you don't own that higher end hardware, you can't use that as an excuse to bash an operating system you can't optimize.
Totally wrong and I build and support people in business and homes. Windows 7 will BSOD just as easily as XP but even worst if your System partition gets corrupt. Then you'll spend possibly hours trying to recover which may or may not be successful. There are many other negatives as well about Seven which I could go into but I'm sure it would be wasted time as you are most probably enamored by pretty more than stability. XP went well over a decade that is unheard of in the past and totally supports the statement that XP is the best OS so far.
I don't use XP anymore with exception to VM's and I like Seven for the most part but that doesn't make Seven better just because it has new features. We will see how long Seven lasts but I doubt it will be more than 10 years.
I always hate people that like something based on the fact it is new, just because it is new! :)
I retain XP on a dual boot machine as there are still things I cannot do with Win7.
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3. June 2011 @ 17:39 |
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Originally posted by gilboa:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't game much myself, but it's nice to have a machine that can, when I want to :p
I am more concerned that my work on HDTV multimedia development is impeded by the lack of development tools equivalent to the operating system. Win7 is great. DirectX9 and the SDK which developers are limited to requires targeting 32 bit processors. The only development solution for 64bit is SlimDX. Microsoft has to support development equivalent to their OS. They should finish their work on Win7 before pushing out Win8. One of the great powers of XP was the development that continued over a long period of time!
You mean like they did going from Vista to 7? This whole mess is getting Vista to what it should have been in the first place. If MS wasn't so big and had better management we wouldn't have this mess to begin with.
Now on the other hand it really shouldn't be MS's place for developement kits for programming. Good program packages should provide their own kits that run on multiple platforms. This is partially what is wrong with the new .NET style of programming.
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3. June 2011 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by gilboa:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't game much myself, but it's nice to have a machine that can, when I want to :p
I am more concerned that my work on HDTV multimedia development is impeded by the lack of development tools equivalent to the operating system. Win7 is great. DirectX9 and the SDK which developers are limited to requires targeting 32 bit processors. The only development solution for 64bit is SlimDX. Microsoft has to support development equivalent to their OS. They should finish their work on Win7 before pushing out Win8. One of the great powers of XP was the development that continued over a long period of time!
You mean like they did going from Vista to 7? This whole mess is getting Vista to what it should have been in the first place. If MS wasn't so big and had better management we wouldn't have this mess to begin with.
Now on the other hand it really shouldn't be MS's place for developement kits for programming. Good program packages should provide their own kits that run on multiple platforms. This is partially what is wrong with the new .NET style of programming.
Agreed!
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3. June 2011 @ 18:22 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Did you guys even watch the video? This OS looks FANTASTIC, seriously.
I watched the video and did not see one thing I would use. I have my pc hooked up to my tv and dont need touch screen. I dont use Media Center either. It is easier to go look at my files (organized the way I want them)in their folders and list of programs rather than icons or buttons. I use Tab launchpad from Stardock to organize all my desktop shortcuts and keep my desktop clear except for a clock, calendar, and cpu meter.
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3. June 2011 @ 18:40 |
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Hey nice video Microsoft
Does this mean if i run out buy Windows 8 you will give me a free touch screen monitor? What percent of users has a touch screen mmmm less then 10% . Lets go back to when windows was designed for the average user and you actually cared for what we wanted .Its bad enough you put crap within windows now that i would never use even in the basic version. lets go back to windows 3.1 now there was a new generation born and it was useful. Did not use much space on hard drive,hardly any resources were used and oh yes less sloppiness on the programmers side who valued hard drive space.Now it seems fit that you want to use as much as our hard drives with your sloppy programming, even your updates are are sloppy.When you send an update out Mr Microsoft we do not need another one to patch the bloody update you just sent us. NEW CONCEPT MR MICROSOFT A decent operating system that allows our computer resources to be used other then running your sloppy programmed WINDOWS.
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3. June 2011 @ 21:14 |
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What a fugly POS! They've got to be kidding.
M$ finally got it right with Windows 7, now they're going to ruin their desktop OS in the next version?
No way I will buy that. I'll stick with Windows 7 and Linux.
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3. June 2011 @ 23:26 |
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it's my understanding that this is simply an optional shell, and not the only option for the GUI. So all of this freaking out seems much ado about nothing, quite frankly. If you don't like the WP7-esque interface, don't use it. Good thing you have options, right?
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4. June 2011 @ 00:47 |
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I heard the same. The video in this unveiling is simply an option for the OS. Something they probably hope will spread like wild fire. But I"m sure most techies will not use this feature as much as MS hopes they will. I'm sure there are tens of thousands who will use the feature, but the majority probably won't. Windows 7 is just fine. It has the right bling factor, and it isn't TOO resource intensive. If Windows 8 can run in a windows 7 mode, I'll rethink my previous statement. Because if it uses even less resources, it's a no brainer to upgrade ;) I have multiple programs that would benefit from windows using less Ram/Cpu cycles.
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4. June 2011 @ 02:34 |
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Originally posted by ROMaster2:
Just allow me to have a NORMAL User Interface, please.
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I second that big time, I watched the whole damn thing, they have got to be kdding me, I don't want to be using a tablet interface with my desktop, I don't know what these guys were smoking but I want some of it.
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4. June 2011 @ 02:41 |
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This type of interface does have it's purposes, but on a desktop? I don't think so. Unless a person is addicted to that type of style. Myself, I like the classic start menu, windows, searches, etc. I could be just as happy with XP, given a few tweaks. But windows 7 does have built in speech recognition. And it does work fairly well. I run it fairly often. I must admit though, Dragon naturally speaking is slightly better at least! Perhaps I'm simply used to that coding though. The way the commands are dictated and what not.
That settles it. I'm gonna have to test the beta! :D I can't judge an OS that hasn't been fully tested!
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4. June 2011 @ 15:24 |
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don't like the tablet interface? well just turn it off then. lol
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4. June 2011 @ 15:50 |
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Well I certainly hope it can be turned off, cause I sure as hell don't want the tablet crap on my pc, and if 8 is suppose to be this big new thing why not also advertise what the pc interface will look like, I would have stated it as what at tablet interface will look like with W8 and would have been specific about it, now show us what the pc will look like, and if this is what we will be stuck with on pc's also than W8 get take a flyer.
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4. June 2011 @ 17:05 |
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Dont care for the way they changed applications and it does not do anything for an OS except add a few new accessorys to the program so why buy it as an operating system. Just sell it as an application or give it free to existing windows 7 users and make a new more perfect OS to actually surpase Windows 7 before releasing it.
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5. June 2011 @ 08:54 |
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looks slick. now if only my desktop or laptop had touchscreens
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5. June 2011 @ 10:03 |
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It seems to me MS has a hidden agenda and is trying to compete/take over the android market. Ain't gonna happen.
I love his statement in the video. "It will work on desktop PC's as well if that's what you happen to have." (paraphrasing.)
If that's what you happen to have??? Only the majority of business and consumers around the world use desktops and or laptops. Hello!
But...If you can turn the bling off, so what. Then hopefully it will be similar to Windows 7 and run faster.
Can't form an opinion yet. Not enough info. Although, I have to admit, I kind of liked the bling. Yet I don't have a touchscreen PC and certainly can't see myself fondling my monitors all day over using a mouse. Ridiculous!
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Opus54
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5. June 2011 @ 18:13 |
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Just one more nail in MS coffin and why I am keeping Windows XP where I have more control of my pC
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5. June 2011 @ 18:32 |
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^ AMEN Opus54 !!! HAiL XP !!! DEATH TO ViSTA, 7, 8, 9, 10, ETC...
i HAVE AN iDEA, TAKE XP...AND REWORK IT AND MAKE A ''TRUE'' NEW OS...THATS ACTUALLY DECENT...gosh people are sheeples nowadays...they will buy anything NEW NEW NEW...f--k that sh1t man..
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5. June 2011 @ 18:38 |
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Sorry, it's not because it's new. I like the way windows 7 works. Gaming is far more smooth with 7 than XP. THough there are probably workarounds for XP. I have nothing against XP though, at the same time :p
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6. June 2011 @ 03:23 |
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I'm convinced half the people blindly insisting on XP's superiority on this thread have nfc what they're talking about. I'm sorry for being so forthright, but come on. If I were to have a serious discussion with a fellow tech and he was unwilling to install Windows 7 on new PC builds because of some dogmatic attachment to XP, I'd probably distance myself from him for professional embarrassment.
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6. June 2011 @ 04:09 |
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Blindly? I don't think so, I just built a new PC and am doing just fine with XP, it's all about preference and needs, having 7 is gonna do what for me that I can't do with XP, plus the fact I can still run all my apps, software and hardware without having any issues that 7 can bring, so I guess were suppose to go buy something that's not needed, buy new hardware etc. e.g. my printers cause I have several PC's in the house, so I'm suppose to be embarrassed, I for one distance myself from comments like this, each to thier own, I guess it's suppose to make me smarter cause I'm suppose to go out and buy everything new, yeah right.
And when 8 comes out I guess your gonna run out and get that too huh! that to me is embarassing, If your that happy with 7 more power to you, but I wouldn't go bashing people that are happy and doing just fine with what they have, besides I know quite a few techies that used 7 and went back, I even had a couple of them offer me thiers if I was intersted, I said no thanks, and they went back pretty much for the same reasons I stated, the advantages are minor, complications with older devises major, and yes we are happy and still doing fine with our older equipment, if that makes us un-cool than so be it, but having extra cash in my pocket makes me smarter.
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6. June 2011 @ 05:08 |
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the problem with XP is intrinsic, If your XP system is online and not hacked then you're in the 0.009% of ppl with a clean install.
I took a long time to warm to 7,(especially after vista!) I never wanted it, but I was forced to when I couldn't get XP 64bit (as it has been long since discontinued), having just built a new 64 bit PC (That I wanted to use properly) .
Initially I hated not being able to find/configure things as I was used to. But then I began to see the advantages and the good planning/architecture.
If your on an older PC with XP and you don't mind the performance decrease and supporting hacker's bot-armies when ur online (Unless you run a number of high-maintenance, resource-hungry security apps that are worse than the disease) Then perhaps save ur money, I know I'm doing this with a couple of my older machines that are either offline and/or mission critical (with older apps that would be a massive pain to migrate, and may not do so as they use very old drivers/API's etc..)
In short, anyone who doesn't see the advantages of win 7 hasn't tried it properly or doesn't understand IT technology as well as they think (No offence in to anyone in particular)
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6. June 2011 @ 05:14 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Blindly? I dont think so, I just built a new PC and am doing just fine with XP, its all about preference and needs, having 7 is gonna do what for me that I cant do with XP, plus the fact I can still run all my apps, software and hardware without having any issues that 7 can bring, so I guess were suppose to go buy something thats not needed, buy new hardware etc. e.g. my printers cause I have several PCs in the house, so Im suppose to be embarrassed, I for one distance myself from comments like this, each to thier own, I guess its suppose to make me smarter cause Im suppose to go out and buy everything new, yeah right.
And when 8 comes out I guess your gonna run out and get that too huh! that to me is embarassing, If your that happy with 7 more power to you, but I wouldnt go bashing people that are happy and doing just fine with what they have, besides I know quite a few techies that used 7 and went back, I even had a couple of them offer me thiers if I was intersted, I said no thanks, and they went back pretty much for the same reasons I stated, the advantages are minor, complications with older devises major, and yes we are happy and still doing fine with our older equipment, if that makes us un-cool than so be it, but having extra cash in my pocket makes me smarter.
I upgraded to windows 7 from Windows Xp (dam i miss it) only because M$CROSOFT sent me a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate.NO FRICKEN WAY was i going to BUY and support a company that does not listen to its supporters (not many left) The fact that i have a u beaut computer does not mean i need to congest it with worthless shit.Windows Xp still stands as a well supported version of M$croshit.
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6. June 2011 @ 15:51 |
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I don't know what your all talking about, XP Was nothing other then an attempt to convince us we need pretty operating systems with all that Blue everywhere, I mean what functionality did they actually add, a green Start button?! I can run Doom perfectly well on 95 and it's nowhere near as much of a resource hog!
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elitepunk
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6. June 2011 @ 17:19 |
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Your right Keith...lets all go back to 95'...err well how bout we revise 95 and bring it up to date add directx-11 support etc.., NOW THAT would be a bad-ass system...
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