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Asfaril
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13. February 2006 @ 05:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Once upon a time, I used freeloader to load my import games. Back then I had to have 2 save cards, one for NTSC and one for PAL. So said freeloader, and so did a actual test.
I then put in a viper chip to remove the hassle of swapping disks. Now I seem to be able to put NTSC saves on my PAL card.

Have I just been lucky with one game, or is this a known "issue"?

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ruiner9
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13. February 2006 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, from my personal experience with my Viper Extreme, I'm able to save NTSC (US or JAP) games on one memory card, but I still have to save PAL games on a separate card. The only PAL games I've tried so far are Mario Kart: Double Dash and Mario Golf. Not sure if other ones would work on an NTSC memcard or not...
Venom5880
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13. February 2006 @ 18:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I put all my saves on the same card. I have Japanese, PAL, and NTSC games all on a single 64mb USB memory card and I've never had any problems with it.

The only games that'll mess it up are the Japanese Donkey Konga games since they require a Japanese format memory card, which is different from the US and UK format.

I've been doing it that way with Freeloader and Qoob Pro for years now.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13. February 2006 @ 18:20

Brewgod23
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13. February 2006 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I am having a problem that might be related to the game being a PAL game. I have a Viper-Extreme and the game I have is Viewtiful Joe (the 1st game). I have tried Auto Detect, PAL50 and PAL60 and NTSC options and all play the game with the video stream scrolling up. This makes the game imposible to play. What am I doing wrong?

BTW I took the game to my friends house and he uses MDP and he forced it to NTSC and the game plays flawlessly. I came back home and switched my Viper-Extreme to NTSC and it still played with strolling video.
Brewgod23
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13. February 2006 @ 18:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another thing, The backup file was a .gcm and I use ImgBurn to burn the backup. Should I have changed the .gcm to .iso then burn to backup?
Venom5880
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13. February 2006 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it works on your friend's GC the back-up is fine, so no worries there.

The problem lies with the Viper. Set it to NTSC and make sure it saves the options. If the game still won't display properly, I don't know what else to tell you since I'm not sure if Viper has support for the onboard flash yet. If you can flash GCoS to the onboard memory and launch it, play it that way until Viper comes out with a fix.
Brewgod23
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13. February 2006 @ 20:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did Save and Exit when I changed it to NTSC and it still scolled. My Viper is flashed with Cobra 1.6. My friend is using MDP and has GSOC 1.5 on the memory card. Could that be the problem? I used Cobra 1.6 because that is what most people are using with the Viper.
Brewgod23
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14. February 2006 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can some one tell me if my scolling problem was because I did not change the .gcm file to .iso before burning to disc? or is it the BIOS I am using? I am using BIOS cobra 1.6 and my friend is using GSOC 1.5.
ruiner9
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14. February 2006 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know that my PAL games always scroll no matter what mode I force my Viper Extreme into... It works after I select 60hz within the game, though. I'm using the 1.6 BIOS.
Brewgod23
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14. February 2006 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can't see while the game is scrolling. Some games don't have that option to change to 60hz. I am trying Viewtiful Joe. I can't or tell if it have an option to change to 60hz while it is scrolling. Maybe Cobra 1.6 needs to have an option to force PAL game to 60hz.
Venom5880
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14. February 2006 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, looks like the Viper GC Extreme can't force video modes, even though it has the option for it.

Like I said, if the game plays fine on your friends, then there's nothing wrong with the back-up. It's definitely the BIOS not doing it's job.

Just use GCoS until Team Viper fixes the problem or play the NTSC version.
ruiner9
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14. February 2006 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well... If you have a Viper, then it's not hard to back games up... why don't you just rent the NTSC version and play that instead? If you own the PAL version, then it's totally legal. ;)
Brewgod23
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14. February 2006 @ 21:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Before I flash my chip with a new BIOS (GSOC 1.5) could some one tell me if I will loose the USB capability? I don't think the GCOS has an optin for USB streaming. Does it?
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ruiner9
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15. February 2006 @ 02:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're right. GCOS has no USB support. It's made for use with a BBA.
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