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5dolla
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14. March 2006 @ 19:23 |
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Hi all, it seems like I've been at this forever but I'll try to sum it up quick.
Originally started making movie backups with TDK DVD-Rs and my Digital Max DVD-RW DRW-3S163 burner and everything was fine. Then, after a while I started noticing more and more freezing and when I tried to make a backup from a backup I would get CRC errors.
From reading other posts I updated the firmware for my Digital Max from BSG3 to BSG5, got some Verbatim Advanced AZO DVD+Rs, grabbed Nero 7.0.5.4 and got about 3 flawless backups with DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15, DVD Info showed no errors with those first few but since then I'm just making coasters with freezing backups from the same batch.
Other changes I have tried with DVD Shrink have been to lower the target size to 4360 then to 4300 with no luck.
I'm not sure what else I could try and any suggestions would be awesome, you have no idea.
Thanks much.
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14. March 2006 @ 20:00 |
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post your burn log from whichever burn engine you are using with shrink
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15. March 2006 @ 00:44 |
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when I tried to make a backup from a backup I would get CRC errors.
Poor quality media/poor quality burner/or a combo of both.Burning too fast/too slow/paper sticker labels/multi-tasking are the leading contributers to the crc errors on backup copies.
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while I started noticing more and more freezing
Please explain:Freezing while it is burning?
Or on playback? Is this while you view them on a stand alone player or a pc drive?
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5dolla
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15. March 2006 @ 02:59 |
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Oh yeah, sorry, I should have posted the log.
Also to cover the other questions I forgot: I always drop the speed down to 4x, I don't multitask on this machine, it was just setup just to backup movies and for storage so I usually walk away from it after I start burning or whatever. I don't use labels because these are inkjet white printable media but I tested these w/DVDInfo before printing a label on it. I read somewhere about a program to check the media to see if it is quality but I couldn't find that thread again.
These movies freeze when watching on a standalone player, just my burned movies though. It stops and then picks up a little while later in the movie.
Thanks for responding.
I burned another backup and here is the log:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM
NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.5.4
Internal Version: 7, 0, 5, 4
Recorder: <DVDRW DRW-3S163> Version: BSG5 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352B>Version: T806 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.5.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD400BB-00HEA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : IC35L100AVVA07-0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW DRW-3S163 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JB-00GVA0 08.0 hpt3xx Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
OtherPeripheral : HPT RCM DEVICE hpt3xx Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
DVDRW DRW-3S163 E: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352B G: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 73400320 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 503MB (515564kB)
Free physical memory: 167MB (171872kB)
Memory in use : 66 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
15.3.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
6:14:45 AM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
DVD-Video files reallocation started
6:14:45 AM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
6:14:45 AM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6414
UDF document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Options : automatic
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
6:14:45 AM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
DVD-Video files sorted
6:14:45 AM #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 71680KB of Memory
6:14:45 AM #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running
6:14:45 AM #7 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer E: DVDRW DRW-3S163 running
6:14:45 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
6:14:45 AM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
6:14:45 AM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3341
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
6:14:45 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 288
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2202143 (489:21.68, 4301MB)
6:14:45 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 300
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
6:14:45 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2699
Recorder: DVDRW DRW-3S163, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC, Media Type ID: 004, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7
6:14:45 AM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 472
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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6:14:45 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2202144 (2202144) = #2202144/489:21.69
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2202144 blocks [E: DVDRW DRW-3S163]
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6:14:45 AM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [E: DVDRW DRW-3S163] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4509990912, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2202144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
6:14:45 AM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
6:14:45 AM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
6:14:45 AM #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files started
6:14:45 AM #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4175
Cache writing successful.
6:14:45 AM #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Caching of files completed
6:14:45 AM #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
6:14:45 AM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
6:14:45 AM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8663
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC.....
Media type ID: 004
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 4D 43 43 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 34 00 38 ...MCC.....004.8
23 54 37 12 02 54 6C 02 - 92 5F 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Tl.._......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
6:14:45 AM #25 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
6:28:39 AM #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<E: DVDRW DRW-3S163> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2202144 (219A20h), length 0 blocks
6:28:39 AM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
6:29:03 AM #28 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730
Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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15. March 2006 @ 04:08 |
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Nero Version: 7.0.5.4
- try updating to 7.0.8.2 - http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/nero7-up.php
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Recorder: <DVDRW DRW-3S163> Version: BSG5
- firmware is up to date - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1976-
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DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JB-00GVA0 08.0 hpt3xx Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
OtherPeripheral : HPT RCM DEVICE hpt3xx Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
- hmmm, i don't know much about the Abit Highpoint RAID drivers but i suspect DMA needs to be ON though
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Physical memory : 503MB (515564kB)
Free physical memory: 167MB (171872kB)
Memory in use : 66 %
- sufficient total memory but free memory could be better; always make sure to close down enough programs prior to all dvd work/burning
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5dolla
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15. March 2006 @ 08:24 |
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Hi, thanks for sending that info my way. I just have a quick question with this:
> - hmmm, i don't know much about the Abit Highpoint RAID drivers but i suspect DMA needs to be ON though
I guess these are my IDE Controllers? Both primary and secondary show the transfer mode as: "DMA if Available" and Current Transfer Mode as: "Multi-Word DMA Mode 2". Is there a way I can turn it on during burning? Maybe this is the problem. The only other option to select is "PIO mode".
Thanks again for all the help.
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15. March 2006 @ 13:18 |
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Your burner drive and main hard drives should be on UDMA/DMA/or if available for your transfer mode-which look ok.I have UDMA 5 and UDMA 2 on my primary and secondary.
I also don't know about the raid and how to activate dma for them.
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These movies freeze when watching on a standalone player, just my burned movies
That's where 95% of those issues usually pop up. Make sure they play ok in your pc,using the burner drive that produced those backups. Note where those issues pop up on your stand alone player and view that area carefully when you play it back on your pc. This will help verify that it is your stand alone player's fault.
MCC-004:
These are high quality discs,but there's a drawback. On my benq 1640, I have to burn them at least 8x. I scanned a few of them at different test speeds. After encountering a few of my backups that had too many read errors,the problem was because I burned them at 2.4x and 4x. Too many errors at those speeds,that could lead to issues later on. Backup at 8x scanned the best,and 12x was just a hair more errors.
Try a burn at 8x and see if the freezing persists.
If some of those backups you are re-ripping are on TDK cmags,then that can cause some trouble as well. If you are ripping crap,then you'll be burning crap. Post back that MID code/s from those Tdk dash backups.
Also take that backup target back up to 4360 mbs in DVD Shrink. This is some top quality media,unless you got a bad batch. MCC-004 full hubs, I have not tried yet. The MCC-003 +8x verbatim full hub inkjet printables a very good.
As stand alone players age,their reading ability can diminish.After time,they'll start showing those freezing issues. Once you test out some of those verbatim +16x backups,burned at 8x-If that issue still shows up-it may need a hard disc lens cleaner ran through it. That cleaning disc is the last resort,before drive replacement.
The main thing: The Dvd burner must be able to play it's own backups,and they should look near original in quality. After that,the stand alone players come into play.You need to confirm those backups are ok,using the Digital Max burner to play them.
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5dolla
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15. March 2006 @ 14:51 |
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Awesome, thank-you.
I will first try ripping at 8x, raising that target size, and watching the movie on the original burner again, it's usually worse on there though, it would skip to a whole different chapter sometimes. I notice that DVDInfo reports no errors with my good burns, and reports around 47 errors on my bad discs. Do I take any value at what DVDInfo reports? I will have to research that UDMA thing.
I've long since stopped using those TDKs after reading these forums and I'm relieved to know that the brand I'm now working with is quality, at least that's one variable I can eliminate. I'm dusting through these quick w/experiments but if I can fix this it will be worth 2 spindles.
Many many many thanks.
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