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22. March 2006 @ 18:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Using a LiteOn SHM-165H6S drive with latest (HS06) firmware.
Using Nero 7.0.8.2
Seems to burn fine to Sony CD-R(48x) and Memorex DVD+R(16x)media.
It refuses, however, to burn to Imation DVD-R (8x).
It does not seem to burn at all and generates:
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23:04:18 Illegal disc
F: LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165H6S
23:04:18 Writing short lead-out
23:04:18 Session fixation error
F: LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165H6S
23:04:18 Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
23:04:18 Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
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The drive is suppossed to be 16x DVD-R capable. This happens at 8x, 6x and 4x attempted recording speeds. Is there any reason that 8x DVD-R media should not work in this drive?
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22. March 2006 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@kiml
Welcome to aD!
Your drive is telling you it doesn't like the media. Imation is not good stuff - not usually made by quality manufacturers. Imation like Memorex uses different manufacturers - most bad - and they can cause a lot of burning/ playback problems even with up to date firmware.
Try using some 'A' list media. Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim. Instore for Taiyo look for made in Japan Fuji or Sony.



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23. March 2006 @ 03:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kiml- Yes exactly what binkie7 said ! Try another brand of media- and most likely your problem will disappear ! good Luck & happy Burning ! Good call binkie7 !
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23. March 2006 @ 11:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The messages you are getting mean that the drive does not recognize the disc MID code and is failing to write to the medium. If even the latest firmware does not include the MID code, any update will not make things better until an update is issued that does include the MID code on the Imation discs. The drive can only write properly to a disc it can identify unless its firmware allows the use of a default setting that may or may not work well.

Can you find out the MID code on the Imation discs?
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23. March 2006 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So I take it that an 8x SHOULD work in the drive as long as it is a quality one that is recogonized?

Using DVD Identifier the Imation disks are identified as:

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:FUJIFILM03]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Fuji Film]
Manufacturer ID : [FUJIFILM03]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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@kiml
Yes your drive will write 8x as long as it recognizes the disc and the disc supports that speed. Fuji is an okay mnaufacturer but not one of the better ones.
Switch over to the quality stuff like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim. Instore you can find Taiyo Yuden by buying Made in Japan Fuji or Sony. Online if in the US: http://supermediastore.com



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23. March 2006 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes. As long as the disc is recognized, the drive will record it. The burn quality depends on the quality of the medium, the quality of the drive, the compatibility of the drive firmware with the medium, the speed of the recording, the compatibility of the software, the integrity of the files, the computer settings, and the freedom from drawing heavily on buffer memory in the drive. Incompatible discs get blamed for poor quality; compatible discs, even average ones, get praised for excellent quality. Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim are media with the greatest compatibility for several reasons, some of them political; and they happen to be excellent quality also. There are several other manufacturers who make very good quality discs but whose discs, for several reasons, including political ones, are less compatible; and they are slammed for "poor quality" when quality is often not the issue at all.

Fuji media most often use an oxonol dye developed by Fuji. This is a good dye, but it requires more laser power than azo-cyanine or cyanine dyes used by other manufacturers. At 16X, the power requirements exceed the power capabilities of several laser diode suppliers; so the oxonol dye is not common for high-speed 16X DVD discs. It sounds as though your drive's firmware does not accept the MID code in the Imation discs, but at 8X the diode Lite-On uses is OK; and other Lite-On drives work well with oxonol dye-based discs for 8X speeds. Hold on to your Imation discs until Lite-On issues a firmware update. The discs will work at 8X if Lite-On includes this MID code in the next update. TY and Verbatim discs are excellent discs with high compatibility, but don't be bullied into believing that they are the only discs worth using.

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