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Microsoft steps up Windows Genuine Advantage trial
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 25 April, 2006
Microsoft has stepped up its Windows Genuine Advantage Desktop Notifications trial by including the United States, United Kingdom, Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand. The Desktop notifications tool displays a message saying "This copy of Windows is not genuine; you may be a victim of software counterfeiting" if the installation doesn't pass the security test. The message displays at startup, ... [ read the full article ]
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25. April 2006 @ 04:18 |
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I find this a fair way to protect their product from piraters. Secuirty updates are still available which i find to be very important for all of our sakes. Hey, its better than what $ony does to protect their cd and material right?!
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25. April 2006 @ 06:50 |
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What Sony does with its rootkit is ILLEGAL. I hope they get sued to Hell.
Now, with microsoft, seriously now, how can you not know if what you have is not a pirated copy? If you want to buy the damn thing, go to circuit city or best buy and don't go see Pedro on the street corner that sells it for 10$.
So what's the use of Windows Genuine Advantage for the consummer, realistically speaking? None. Yes, that's right, it doesn't protect the consummer, it protects the companies interest. Let's be real about it, unless you're the most naive and computer illiterate person on the face of the globe, I don't see much need for it.
Just bypass the damn thing, end of story.
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oappi
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25. April 2006 @ 08:24 |
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Ya this is only upgrade to existing check but microsoft probably has it´s hands full fixing their operating system so when someone bypasses it everyone who has illegal copy and knows something about computers will enjoy that for quite a while.
i know few people who have purchased the legimet copy of XP but are just so damn tired of contacting m$ for exampel changing cd-rom to dvd that they have hacked that check up and searched new serials from the internet. Seriosly this is what i would call retired. Well i have had good reason not to upgrade from win2k to xp. unfortunately vista seems to be must be upgrade for me because of dx10 or w/e it is called.
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taldy
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25. April 2006 @ 09:37 |
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what is wrong with a company protecting its interests anyway? Ok, I know Microsoft practically owns the world but hey, that's business for you, and any software company must think along the same lines eventually. Of course, you'd have to be pretty lame not to realise that you've got a pirated operating system copy, but I can think of a few family members who wouldn't think twice about giving their PCs to mates/work colleagues to fix if they have a problem and not ask how they solved it....or hey that's a great upgrade, how much? Just my thoughts, at least Microsoft are being sued for their monopoly but it's still got its business interests and it would be pretty dumb not to try and stop piracy, even if it does deserve it.
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25. April 2006 @ 10:24 |
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I've got a genuine version of Windows, so I don't mind them checking. I've got nothing to hide.
I agree with taldy, yes, MS are a large company, but they've got to protect their software same as any company. I bet it Google did something like this everyone would praise it. (I like Google btw, just more people seem to like them that MS).
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25. April 2006 @ 10:41 |
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Fair enough. I on a legitimate copy of Windows anyway (honestly, lol) and find it understandable they want to make sure no-one pirates their software. Yep, I aint got nothing to hide.
-Mike
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25. April 2006 @ 10:51 |
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I think is dum to have an ilegit OS, as expensive as it is, if prorated thru the useful life of a computer it's not that bad. And I agree, at least they have the decency not to act as sony is doing. At least for now.
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25. April 2006 @ 10:53 |
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@chicken R
"I've got a genuine version of Windows, so I don't mind them checking. I've got nothing to hide."
The Supreme Court has ruled that exercision of a right is not grounds for suspection or probable cause.
hehehee
I am against monopolies for the simple reason they regress and stifle progress due to their sole ownership of a product, software, etc without competition giving them a run for their money.
In any event, if you people like rootkits, WGA, and "I will enter your home and take your computer away if we disagree as to how you used our product" then by all means, be free to enjoy that pattern of customer type retaliation offered by these major corporations.
Personally, I won't stand for it, and somebody should come up with an operating system that rivals and exceeds Windows. Not hard to do cuz windows sucks.
Seriously, who wants to deal with a centillion spywares, trojans, viruses, worms on a daily basis!!
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25. April 2006 @ 11:10 |
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You can always use LINUX but it is starting to be attacked. The attacks on LINUX have doubled. The reason there are some many threats to Windows is there a some many PC's using it. If I made a product I would protect it. The cost if Windows is not that bad in a new machine ( the price of the OS is included in the price of the PC ) If you bulid your own, that is when it can be costly. I get mine for on-line dealers. Best Buy, COMPUSA and the like rape people on their OS software prices.
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taldy
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25. April 2006 @ 12:34 |
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I totally agree about monopolies and how, if left without being challenged, will suck the life out of any market and yes Microsoft has such a stronghold on the IT industry that it is like a disease.....but it has still pioneered personal computing, no-one can dispute that, even tho Windows has mega flaws, it still is the most popular OS.....and as consumers we have a choice to go for other products if we don't agree with MS. It is a worry tho that they could take it further like the music/film industry have and it is heading that way, perhaps I'll be eating my words this time next year and will have no internet access and a redundant PC!! But, my version of XP SP2 is definitely legit....on this PC in any case!
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d-rock
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25. April 2006 @ 15:17 |
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The legitcheckcontrol.dll fix doesn't seem to work anymore, after Microsoft updated their Genuine Advantage Validation program today.
Anyone have a new workaround?
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001CIRRUS
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25. April 2006 @ 15:25 |
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Are you kidding me??!! Let's talk about Bill Gates ethics shall we? Does anyone recall where he cooked up windows operating systems in the first place? That's right, he hacked it from his own roomate in college and then turned sold it to the world. And now.., bill gates wants to monopolize and control everything (up to and including monitoring what goes into your own "my documents" folders.)Bill Gates didnt give two-shits about stealing a mac operating system and then later screwing over Macintosh corporation itself, so..., why should i care about putting more gas in his yacht for the week by paying outrageous prices for a "legitimate copy" of windows?? Answer: thankgod for hackers
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EMIR
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25. April 2006 @ 19:02 |
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ha ha ha i like the new windows xp sp3 wich is best xp ever they going to be cracked no mater what bill billioner do long live hackers.....
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25. April 2006 @ 19:38 |
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Long live hackers! Down with thieving techno-pointdexters like microsofts Bill Gates.
I personally thought, after the Rockefeller incident, that monopolies were illegal by law!!
YA RIGHT!!!
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26. April 2006 @ 01:00 |
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@hot_ice
US Supreme Court means nothing to me, I live in the UK ;) All I meant was that I've got a legit copy on Windows, so I don't mind the WGA tool. :)
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silverb
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26. April 2006 @ 07:51 |
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ok folks! this crack works:
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microsft are takeing the P!?S
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26. April 2006 @ 09:36 |
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A little bit more of the same...
According to CNET, Microsoft is going to start beta testing a new Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications tool that will run in the Windows operating system and notify users if it finds their system to be pirated.
Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications will be rolled out to a random set of users in the United States, United Kingdom, Malaysia, Australia, and New Zealand. If the tool finds the system to contain an invalid license key, it will alert the user with, "This copy of Windows is not genuine; you may be a victim of software counterfeiting."
Although the alert seems threatening, users can decline the install, and they can also uninstall the software if they please. If a user chooses to run the tool with an invalid license key, he can close an alert by clicking on it. The alerts do not stay static on the screen and do not prevent a user from receiving security updates.
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GOptics
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26. April 2006 @ 10:13 |
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Well after alot of searching, I didn't find any way to remove this WGA Notifications, so just went looking for the filenames. I imagine just renaming the associated files (list found in install log, wganotify.txt, wga.txt, whatever) to *.old or whatever, will get rid of it.
C:/WINDOWS/system32/LegitCheckControl.dll
C:/WINDOWS/system32/WgaLogon.dll
C:/WINDOWS/system32/WgaTray.exe
C:/WINDOWS/system32/DllCache/WgaLogon.dll
C:/WINDOWS/system32/DllCache/WgaTray.exe
Not sure how this fares on other versions of Windows XP, but XP Pro SP2 (Norwegian version) was what I used, and all I had to do was go to:
C:/WINDOWS/Temp/wganotify.settings, open the file and change Disabled value from False to True. Unsure of how effective this will be in future - the fact it's in the Temp folder has given me doubts, but try it and see :-)
In future, avoid installing the update Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications.
PauL
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madman91
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26. April 2006 @ 20:41 |
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Microsoft likes piracy for a few reasons.
1) they moan to the media on how much they lose.
2) it kills off the idea of people switching to open source operating systems
3) it allows them to put more "safety" features in their os's to limit the user's productivity.
Its funny how they always say we lost 50 million dollars. But they NEVER say how much they made. Probably 47times that amount.
I dont think microsoft employees will starve from losses due to piracy.
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26. April 2006 @ 22:47 |
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hi all
read it loads to here...
1, C:WINDOWSSoftwareDistributionDownload6c4788c9549d437e76e1773a7639582a
2, C:WINDOWSSystem32wgatray.exe
3, C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataWindows Genuine Advantagedatadata.dat
wonder what would happen if you deleted info in .DAT file and made read only? and changed other 2 to ext .BAK
ummm? interesting..........
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27. April 2006 @ 15:16 |
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And for those of us who dont care about WGA or IE for that matter http://WindizUpdate.com .
Finally we can uninstall IE!!!
Well no no we cant because MS has that crap built into the explorer.exe
oh well my 2 cents.
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27. April 2006 @ 15:52 |
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Don't get me started with Microsoft, Bill Gates, and monopolies...
However, Microsoft doesn't lose a single dime, and WGA is a tool to preserve their interests.
What does the customer usually care if its legit or not, the customer only wants a working copy, end of story.
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Chris1000
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27. April 2006 @ 15:53 |
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Really, this doesn't keep people from downloading Windows Defender and Windows Media Player.
Why? Because someone with a genuine copy of Windows can just burn the installation file to a CD or DVD, give it to their friend who had a counterfeit copy of Windows and BOOM! They can install it on the illegal copies of Windows!
Internet Explorer 7 Beta does it a different way and the correct way. It does the Genuine Article check WHEN YOU ARE INSTALLING, and if your version is a counterfeit, it won't install!
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hovis71
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27. April 2006 @ 16:27 |
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Really simple bleep MICROSOFT!!!!!
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silverb
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27. April 2006 @ 20:12 |
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Ok!! at the end the day Bill Gates is a bleep. all that money and he still looks like a NOB! i dont give a bleep if i rip the bleep off cos i aint paying for his software or any other bleep for that matter.
All they are doing is letting you know they are there watcing you rip them off, A bit like your TV licence?
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