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Disk made on video recorder shows empty on PC.
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shilliard
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21. June 2006 @ 12:31 |
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My PC (Windows Explorer) does not see any files on my DVD. The DVD contains a TV program that I recorded and finalized with my Pioneer 320 DVR in VR mode onto a Maxwell DVD-RW 4.7BM disk.
The drive in the PC is a Pioneer brand DVR.
My goal is to make a copy onto a DVD-R disk. Why can't the PC see the VR files that the recorder burned?
Advice will be appreciated.
Stan Hilliard
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21. June 2006 @ 16:19 |
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Hi shilliard
What brand of discs are you using?
Is your drive's firmware up to date?
Here's a program to try and see if can get the files off the disc for you:
http://www.isobuster.com/
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shilliard
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23. June 2006 @ 08:49 |
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The disc is a Maxwell DVD-RW 4.7BM.
I changed computers to my XP laptop that has a Pioneer DVR-04S with recently updated firmware. (The earlier PC had Win98SE.)
I can now see with Windows Explorer two files:
VR_MANGR.IFO
VR_MOVIE.VRO
Windows Media Player only sees VR_MANGR.IFO. When I load it the WMP message bar says "playing", the stop button is active, and the play button is inactive. but has a blank screen and no sound.
A Windows message screen contained this:
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File Type: Unknown
Description: Windows does not recognize this file type.
The following Web sites have a comprehensive list of file extensions. You might be able to find information about this file type there:
* FILExt
The FILEtxt link contained the following information:
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DVD Video Recording Format streaming video file. An associated .IFO file contains the various scene and timing information. This is different from a .VOB file where that information is included in the file. Several manufacturers use .VRO/.IFO files. This is a new specification for real-time recording on DVD discs. The standard DVD specification supports only the playback function. DVD Video Recording Format has several additional functions for recording.
I know that the files themselves are OK because I can play the disc on my stand-alone DVR.
What can I do to get the video to play on my computer?
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23. June 2006 @ 15:29 |
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hmmm I haven't run across this file type so let me see if I can get someone to help you out.
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23. June 2006 @ 16:27 |
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shilliard
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25. June 2006 @ 14:04 |
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Thanks, I was able to copy VR_MOVIE.VRO from DVD to hard drive and read it with Windows Media Player after renaming it to an .mpg.
The original DVD media was -RW. I would like to copy the mpg file back to a read-once -R disc. Is that possible? When I try [file] [Write these files to CD] the XP Home Edition gives the message that there is no CD in the drive! It has the same result trying to copy to -R and -RW.
How can I copy the .mpg file back to a DVD?
Stan Hiliard
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25. June 2006 @ 20:40 |
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If you want it to be able to play on a DVD player then you will have to reauthor it. Ulead Video Studio, Nero Vision, and Womble MPEG Video Wizard (DVD) are good tools for this.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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shilliard
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27. June 2006 @ 14:46 |
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My CD/DVD reader/burner came with a Nero OEM SUITE disc with NeroVision Express 3 and Nero Express 6.
Q1: Does that do authoring and burning that I need?
Q2: Would I gain much by buying the retail? If I buy the retail which version should I get for compatibility?
My configurations are:
Desktop: Win98SE, Pioneer DVR 110D, NEC ND 3550 16X DVR
Laptop: WinXP, Pioneer DVR-04S
TV/Video Player/Recorder: Pioneer 320 DVR
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27. June 2006 @ 16:25 |
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@shilliard
I would use the laptop w/ XP and try Nero Vision.
Vision does the authoring and burning. I don't know if it will bomb on these files though.
You may need a Nero Update if you've never updated the oem version. If you do use this version - 6.6.0.18. Here's some links:
Package 1
Nero.com/software/Nero6/Nero-6.6.0.18_no_yt.exe" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://httpdl1.usw.Nero.com/software/Nero6/Nero-6.6.0.18_no_yt.exe
Package 2 (Recode & Vision)
Nero.com/software/Nero6/NVE-3.1.0.21_no_yt.exe" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://httpdl1.usw.Nero.com/software/Nero6/NVE-3.1.0.21_no_yt.exe
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shilliard
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9. July 2006 @ 15:10 |
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Quote:
binkie7 said:
Here's a program to try and see if can get the files off the disc for you:
http://www.isobuster.com/
I installed isobuster as you suggested and it sees my file on the DVD.
VR_MANGR.IFO
VR_MOVIE.VRO
I want to extract them to hard drive for burning a copy back to another DVD disc.
If I right-click on the top icon in the left pane (DVD-RW), it offers:
Extract DVD-RW <content>
Extract DVD-RW <image>
Among other things. My question is, how do I determine which extraction option to use?
Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard
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9. July 2006 @ 16:49 |
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@shilliard
Did you try taking those files that you changed to .mpg and see if you could convert them using Nero vision? May or may not work.
Give it a shot though.
For isobuster - try the image/iso option.
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shilliard
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10. July 2006 @ 13:48 |
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I have not been successful so far. How could I do better?
1) Nero finds the .mpg on the hard drive not compatible for burning to disc.
2) An originally blank DVD-RW was recorded and finalized on my Pioneer 320S, One hour in SP mode. I actually had a second 1/2 hour recording but erased it before finalizing. isobuster finds two files on the DVD in the hierarchy:
====== folder hierachy
DVD-RW
Session 1
Track 01
(UDF) $ Pioneer DVR-04S Basis Volume $
DVD-RTAV
VR_MANGR.IFO and VR_MOVIE.VR0
====== end of folder hierachy
I tried to extract the VR_MANGR.IFO AND VR_MOVIE.VRO, but isobuster responded with "For this functionality you need to register."
Question -- If I buy a license key, will the program extract them in a format that Nero can burn to a blank DVD?
I selected isobuster's "extract <image>} by right-clicking on the leftmost icon, and it created these files (4.38GB) on the hard drive:
DVD-RW.cue
DVD-RW.tao
DVD-RW.tao01
DVD-RW.tao02
DVD-RW.tao03
DVD-RW.tao04
Here is the isobuster Cue file:
=============== Cue file
FILE "DVD-RW.tao" BINARY
REM ORIGINAL MEDIA-TYPE: DVD-RW
REM SESSION 01 ; Not supported by other applications (*)
TRACK 01 MODE1/2048
INDEX 01 00:00:00
REM MSF: 00:00:00 = LBA: 0
REM (*) SESSION directives are unfortunately not properly supported
REM 'out there'. IsoBuster however supports them !
=============== end of cue file
3) With Nero 6.6.0.18, "No compatible file found."
Nero is looking for ubp, VOB, ifo.
Question -- What is the best way (or ways) for me to proceed?
Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard
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10. July 2006 @ 16:32 |
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@shilliard
I'm not the best at this one but I give it another shot. Try Express in Nero. Use the 'disc image or saved project' option.
See if the .cue file shows up here. If it does open and click.
You can also pick 'image files' under file type to narrow down the selection.
On the paying to get the other option - I don't think that would put in a convertable format but I could be very wrong. You may want to check isobuster's website and see if you can find a better answer.
This may help a bit:
http://www.isobuster.com/tips.php?tips_page=1
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shilliard
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14. July 2006 @ 18:41 |
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shilliard
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14. July 2006 @ 18:52 |
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14. July 2006 @ 19:26 |
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found this
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VRO files are written as part of the DVD-VR format. It is a newish format that is found mainly on DVD-RAM disks, though can also be written to DVD-R. A lot of DVD camcorders use it, as well as some DVD recorders and USB TV tuners.
Here's one free utility that can open & convert them:
http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html
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xp235
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15. July 2006 @ 05:21 |
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Your recorder is capable of recording in another mode. Use it and you can go directly to pc with your recording.
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shilliard
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18. July 2006 @ 18:43 |
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I have installed MPEGStreamclip on my XP laptop. It can see my finalized DVD-RW disc containing
.Sys-Reserved-RW-Bitmap.GROW
DVD_RTAV\VRMANGR.IFO
DVD_RTAV\VRMOVIE.VRO
I open DVD_RTAV\VRMOVIE.VRO and can play the movie.
The user manual assumes more knowledge than I have. How should I convert the format to make the most compatible DVD Video format for DVD players?
What should I do next interms of [Convert to] and [Export to]?
Media: I have a supply of blank DVD-R disks. Are they appropriate?
To split the stream in half and make two 1/2 hour sections, do I need to use an authoring tool?
Here are the properties of VR_MOVIE.VRO:
[File][Show Stream Info:]
Stream: VR_MOVIE.VRO
Type: MPEG program stream
Duration: 0:59:41
Data Size: 1.04GB
Bit Rate: 250 Mbps
Video Tracks:
224 MPEG-2, 352x480,4:3, 29.96999...fps, 9.50Mbps, upper field first
Audio Tracks:
128 AC3 2/0, 48khz, 256kbps
Stream Files:
VR_MOVIE.VRO (1.04 GB)
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