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Verbatim DVD+r 16x verse 8X. Which to buy?
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cynn
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27. June 2006 @ 00:35 |
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Anybody using both the 16x and 8x? Can you give me feedback which I should buy? I wish to keep my movices longterm.
Seems some Verbatim just came in (SE Asia), would like to buy them.
MIT, 16x is MCC004 and 8x is MCC003. I have to buy in bulk, so would appreciate which is best error free. Pls don't recmend others like TY, MIJ etc cos we don't have it here. Appreciate whatever help. Read in forum, some guys getting problems on 16X so what do you think?
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pazzini
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27. June 2006 @ 00:59 |
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It all depends on what DVD-Writer you have?
I have 2x BenQ 1650 and 1x BenQ1640 and 2x BenQ1655 I get better scans with the Verbatim 16x media. I burn them @12x as this seems to be the sweet spot for BenQ's.
Now my LG4167B also prfers 16x and being burnt @8x.
Verbatim MCC003 and MCC004 are both excellent choices but like I said quality all depends on what DVD-Writer (and firmware) you are planning on using them with.
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DamonDash
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27. June 2006 @ 03:11 |
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I have a Liteon ex Burner i use the 16x all the time no problem.i burn at 16x.
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27. June 2006 @ 19:13 |
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@DamonDash, I would not recommend burning at 16x, as that causes more errors even on 16x media. The senior members will back that you almost always get better burns at 8x on 16x media.
@cynn, If I were you I would go with the 8x Verbs. They have been out for a while and have been perfected, whereas the 16x are new and still being perfected plus most drive dont have them in their firmware so they cause more errors right now for most people because of that. My burner didnt like them at all, but loves the 8x. here is a link to the thread I started about that incident. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/355403
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cynn
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27. June 2006 @ 21:17 |
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@Jondrew, maybe Liteons do not like verb 16x but I'll bet if you bought benq burner, you'd get great burns of 98%-100% which is what's happening in our area, so everyone's grabbing these 16x verb. benQ also does + better than -, btw. In fact, owners are BenQ )here) are getting the best burns with 16x + verb.
@pazzini, I have just one burner LG4167B. Since you have one too, pls bear with me here. As you know, I am not able to do scans with the LG, so will you tell me your media results with this LG with the verbs. How are your results with the 16x and 8X, and does LG prefer minus , plus or is it neutral? Sorry for this trouble, I do not have a benq (or verbatim media yet!!) to do the quality test. I am also a roxio person, no Nero for me :)
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pazzini
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28. June 2006 @ 01:07 |
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Here are 2 scan of each media code
MCC004 both burnt @12x (FW DL13)
MCC003 both burnt @8x (FW DL13)
I only ever use DVD+R so I would not know how good it handles DVD-R
EDIT: These scans were done by 2 friends of mine on a different forum :)
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pazzini
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28. June 2006 @ 13:14 |
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With my scans 99% of the time my score using cd-dvd speed is in the 90's
I have always owned BenQ's but I decided to take a chance with the LG and must say that I have been very impressed with it.
It is a shame that you can not get any Taiyo Yudens because my LG loves them.
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cynn
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28. June 2006 @ 17:33 |
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@pazzini, well, you could always consider sending them to me....(just trying my luck. ha ha)
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cynn
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28. June 2006 @ 17:35 |
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@pazzini, the scans you posted were burned by the LG4167B right? Just to make sure...
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28. June 2006 @ 18:21 |
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Yes, you would be correct in saying that the BenQs love the 16x, especially the ones with solidburn (I got one of my friends one to help them start burning and it loves 16x TYS). What I was pointing out is that most people dont have a solidburn enabled BenQ drive and because of that unless he has one of those I would recommend the 8x to be safe.
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cynn
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28. June 2006 @ 20:13 |
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@jondrew, looking at the scans pazzini has posted, would you say there isn't much diffrence between MCC003 and MCC004? Cos if the isn't, I'll just settle for 8x. Sorry I have to ask this. Im very new to this and can't read graphs well when all 4 look great to me.
Thnks.
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DogBomb
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29. June 2006 @ 03:56 |
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My only concern would be that the firmware on your DVD burner has to be up-to-date. Even so, for example, my Plextor still has some problems burning 16X media even at 8X because it doesn't recognize the some of the newer 16X media. If you don't burn at 16X anyway, and could save a few bucks with 8X, I'd go with the 8X.
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pazzini
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29. June 2006 @ 06:51 |
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Hi :)
Yes it is definately the LG4167B I was there when they burnt the disc and tested it :)
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cynn
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29. June 2006 @ 07:55 |
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Thks everyone. You've all been very helpful.
I am quite decided to take Jondrew's advice n get 8x since it was mentioned 8x is perfected n 16x is still new.
@ hi dogbomb, Im not into burning at 16x. Even if I ever get 16x, I have always burned all my dvds at 8x.
@pazzini, you were a great help in my decision (posting the scans). If you ever have new info on what LG burners love, let me know ok.
Chao all
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cynn
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29. June 2006 @ 07:56 |
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Thks everyone. You've all been very helpful.
I am quite decided to take Jondrew's advice n get 8x since it was mentioned 8x is perfected n 16x is still new.
@ hi dogbomb, Im not into burning at 16x. Even if I ever get 16x, I have always burned all my dvds at 8x.
@pazzini, you were a great help in my decision (posting the scans). If you ever have new info on what LG burners love, let me know ok.
Chao all
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29. June 2006 @ 08:23 |
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I have a Philips DVD8701 drive, which is a rebadged BenQ 1640. I have burned lots of backups on both 8X and 16x Verbs and with this drive, the results have been excellent. I did numerous scans to help try and find the best speed for those discs. I obtained great results on the 8x verbs while burning at 8x but in general, they come out better when burned at 4x.
I have tested the 16x verbs at 4x, 8x and 16x. 4x gave me more than decent results, but there too, the scans were generally better when burned at 1/2 the max speed. (8x in this case).
Although I was not going to adopt this method for anything other than testing, I tried to burn those 16x at full speed. Even though my drive is 16x capable, it never even made it to 16x! It maxed out at 14x. The speed went up and down constantly during the burn. I could actually see circular lines in different areas of the disc where the speed suddenly changed! They weren't very obvious but still... I realize a lot of it probably has something to do with my drive. I've read somewhere that people were able to achieve 16x with this particular drive and the 16x verbs though.
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29. June 2006 @ 09:35 |
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I would definitely agree with Nick600 that you should always burn at half the rated speed, especially on 16x media, Although there are some people who get better results on 8x TYS and Verbs Burned at 8x versus 4x, all depends on your setup I guess. Happy Burning!
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29. June 2006 @ 15:23 |
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It's funny you should say that. Before I found out about the wonders of booktyping, I burned about 50 Fuji 8x DVD-R (TYG02) at full speed (8x). I did some scans of these to compare them with the 8x DVD+R verbatim media which was burned at 4x and 8x. I found out that on my TY burns, there was little to no difference between burning them at 4x or 8x. Both speeds produced the same outstanding results. The difference between the 4x and 8x on the 8x verbs was very little but still present. I should clarify that by difference, I mean to say it's like comparing "excellent"(8x) with "amazing"(4x) Of course, there is no arguing that both these brands are top grade media but the TYG02's seemed to take full speed burning a little better on my burner. The thing is I only scanned two or three of each so my tests hardly are evidence to support this. I think that most can expect only the best results from Verbatim & Taiyo Yuden. ...but everyone knows that already :)
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Always use good quality blank media. Verbatim is always a good call. Don't be seduced by those 50-spindles you find in the $2.99 bin at your local car wash! :)
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cynn
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29. June 2006 @ 23:06 |
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Hmm, someone just pm me today and said bothe verb 8x n 16x are great but recommends 16x burned at 8x which is slightly better than the verbs 8x
And verb 8x burned at 8x actually gives better results than at 4x.
Since I am leaning towards the 8X, can someone who has done this on a LG burner tell me if burning 8x better than 4x on a Verb 8x.
Thanks again
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cynn
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29. June 2006 @ 23:10 |
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@Nick600, "excellent" n "amazing" - which is better then? Sorry, english is not my mother tongue. Both the words sound "great", sometimes "amazing" is better than "excellent" and vice versa, you know...:)
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30. June 2006 @ 03:55 |
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@Nick600, "excellent" n "amazing" - which is better then? Sorry, english is not my mother tongue. Both the words sound "great", sometimes "amazing" is better than "excellent" and vice versa, you know...:)
I'm sorry about that. Now that I look at it, I guess I could have chosen better wording. :)
On a 1 to 10 scale, 10 being the best, "excellent" would be 9.9 and "amazing" would be 10. I was trying to emphasize that for me, it really doesn't matter either way.
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Always use good quality blank media. Verbatim is always a good call. Don't be seduced by those 50-spindles you find in the $2.99 bin at your local car wash! :)
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21. July 2006 @ 08:14 |
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so if i have 16x verbs i should not burn them at 4x? i have always burned at 4x with no coasters and i have burned over 300 so far.
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21. July 2006 @ 23:39 |
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You should be fine burning them at 4x. The 16x verbs burn just as good if not better at 8x if your burner is compatible.
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Always use good quality blank media. Verbatim is always a good call. Don't be seduced by those 50-spindles you find in the $2.99 bin at your local car wash! :)
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