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I got sent a ticket running a RED LIGHT !!
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AfterDawn Addict
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13. July 2006 @ 17:59 |
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Hey guys,
I just a letter today claimimg I ran a red light...Help me beat it!
The letter states I was going 37mph and and ran the red light, but can they prove I ran it? can it be a machine malfunction and does someone have to prove I was running the red light?
The signature the was summoned was computer generated, isn't that a forge of documentation?
I need some help here guys, thanks!
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ddp
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13. July 2006 @ 18:07 |
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have them produce the picture of your car with the licence plate clearly visible with the red stop light on
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gerry1
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13. July 2006 @ 18:14 |
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Out of curiosity, where do you live geestar?
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ddp
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13. July 2006 @ 18:15 |
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near neph's place
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13. July 2006 @ 18:18 |
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quote ddp
near neph's place
thats the reason ye got the ticket in the first place living near neph....
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ddp
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13. July 2006 @ 18:22 |
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i 2nd & 3rd that!!
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gerry1
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13. July 2006 @ 18:33 |
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I rather wish they'd do that in Philly. Not only would the city make a fortune but us pedestrians downtown might stand a better chance of making it through the day alive lol!
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jziman
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13. July 2006 @ 18:36 |
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Now that sucks. Where I live we dont have the cursed redlight cameras but we have the ones that they lay down on the highway and but you for speeding. They also like to take out a airplaine and but you for speeding that way. 2 weeks later you get a letter and a ticket. It really sucks.
But yeah ask for a photo. And if you live in the USA take it to court. Everyticket everytime!!! Most of the time they will just drop it if you take it to court.
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13. July 2006 @ 18:38 |
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gerry1 quote
I rather wish they'd do that in Philly
me too for as it should be the same for jay-walkers in philly
and all pedestrians should have a plate on there bum for the camera!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13. July 2006 @ 18:50 |
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Out of curiosity, where do you live geestar?
I live in Phoenix, AZ
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have them produce the picture of your car with the licence plate clearly visible with the red stop light on
Is this going to hold up in court or just a theory?
What can I say or do to help me win this case?
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Galahadoc
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13. July 2006 @ 18:52 |
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Not sure about what it's like where you are but i know that here in South Australia it's like a massive percentage of people who challenge speeding fines and such win due to a lack of evidence.. Such as the image not completely being clear..
Ask for all the evidence they have got..
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gerry1
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13. July 2006 @ 19:01 |
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@Ireland....LOL! Ah but we have to jaywalk. With right turns on red lights, you either jay walk or spend the entire day standing in one spot! There was a time when a yellow light meant hurry up before it turns red. A red light in Philly means that itw really still green for the next 45 seconds so hurry up. Of course, when I'm renting a car for the day, then its always the pedestrian whose at fault as I never am LOL!
@geestar: hell, if you didn't run the light, they couldn't possibly have it on film; how could a camera malfunction in such a way? Sure worth a try rather than have points against your license, have your insurance go up etc.
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13. July 2006 @ 19:10 |
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its a very unfair system,any one can be driving his car and run a red light and he still gets the ticket......
my defense would be: we were setting up for a party and on that day about 8 different people were driving my car to get stuff..
and on that day i only used my car to put it my garage to move it out of the way for more parking..
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gerry1
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13. July 2006 @ 20:14 |
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Good idea Ireland; how the hell do they know who was driving the car? You can't hold one personal responsible for the infractions of another. I'll bet it would work!
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13. July 2006 @ 21:09 |
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They have a Pic of me driving from the front and a detailed pic of my licence plate :(
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14. July 2006 @ 13:19 |
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14. July 2006 @ 16:48 |
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I read up alot on this type of traffic ticket crapp and I feel confident I will plead insanity! j/k
I decided I would try this product called Photoblocker which is a spray adhesive that reflects the flash back at the camera. I really hope it works (not that I will do this running red lights or speeding on purpose!)
I am in no way pimping this site (as flip218 would say, lol) just giving info, http://phantomplate.com/
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14. July 2006 @ 18:16 |
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If someone runs a red light and gets caught, they should have to pay the piper. Just MHO.
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14. July 2006 @ 18:24 |
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geestar20
next time see if the light is green..if not smile for the camera as ye go through the red light..just think ye can save some money..the copy of the photo can be used for ye passport pix or driver license pix..
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14. July 2006 @ 18:41 |
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well im not sure how it works in az, but where i live if it doesent go on my insurance, then i just pay the fine. if it doese ill get a slick talking attorney for $200.00 and everything is taking care of. if u know for sure ur going to be running alot of red lights, u can go to wally world and pick-up a set of tags and the world is yours. just make sure u dont get pulled with those tags though. that wouldnt be good, stolen tags and all.hehehe.
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14. July 2006 @ 22:20 |
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What can I say or do to help me win this case?
Tell them that you were too drunk to see the traffic signal
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17. July 2006 @ 15:50 |
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You can say your civil rights were violated.
Look for defects in the photo.
Fight the yellow light being too short.
For the future fight back - visit www.theblocker.com
Avoid Red Light Cameras
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17. July 2006 @ 18:26 |
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They had red light cams in my town for a while too. The fine was not legal here in the state because they couldn't prove who was driving the car, just that the car passed the light. In one instance a lady recieved a ticket for her plate on a truck that passed through the red light. She drove a Ford Festiva... LOL... Between that and the misappropriation of collected red light funds it forced the cameras to be deemed unconsitutional... so now we have a bunch of dead cameras that cost the state a fortune sitting at major intersections...
Anyways, it was not considered a moving violation because it was not proveable that you were driving, so there was no insurance issues or license points. Also, if you took it to court and demanded to face your accuser, they dropped the charge. By law, you are afforded the right to face your accuser or have the charges dropped... The camera could not testify it was you driving, so the charges had to be dropped. Not sure how it works in Arizona though, so that might not fly there... but it worked here.
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17. July 2006 @ 19:10 |
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Ok,lets pretend all the cameras arent used for traffic tickets aymore because you cant proove the driver.
Do you think the cameras will go unmonitored? No, they just cant use the picture in a traffic violation. A way for the powers that be to slip "big brother" around our constitutional laws. More cameras on more corners.
"But if you have nothing to worry about who cares?"
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17. July 2006 @ 19:30 |
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just another way for the man to tax you
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