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Burning .AVI -Does speed matter?
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jepboro
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21. June 2003 @ 18:03 |
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I burned 4 .avi files on one CD on my burner which is advertised as 52x but the fine print says runs at 42 or something by default and only 52x when you hold the play button down for two seconds or something.
Thinking of this I set the burn speed for 44 which was the nearest number offered.
Three of the .avi files cannot be read from the CD or copied to the hard drive. One is fine.
Other data CD's I've burned appear to be fine (but who knows what may be screwed up inside the files?)
My simple little question, therefore, is - does speed matter? And if it does (which sure seems likely to me) what should I do - is the slower the better? As simple as that?
And with my confusing burner - if anyone has anything like it - what should I tell software to do if I haven't done this button pushing thing - think of it as 52x or 42x for burning purposes?
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abrogard
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22. June 2003 @ 22:07 |
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of course the speed matters! Also if u are using Nero, when creating a new compilation, right click the files in the list and change prioity to high!
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Shoey
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23. June 2003 @ 07:07 |
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Burn any video format NO FASTER than 8x.
Shoey :)
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23. June 2003 @ 10:55 |
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Actually i think for data he would be ok a little higher because its not like vcd/svcd. I know i've often in a hurry burned divx at high speeds and didnt have any problems at all but the speed this guy goes on about is way too high to burn anything IMHO!
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Praetor
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23. June 2003 @ 13:13 |
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A theory: in Nero, if the burn is unsuccessful, Nero automatically caps your burn speed down (i.e., i burned a data cd, it failed for some reason and what i could once burn at 48/52 i can only do at 24)... If so, is there a way to get around this because it also affects CDRWIN
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IMRANmel
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23. June 2003 @ 16:10 |
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even tho hes burnin the file as DATA the movie may be bigger than 700 mb and overburn so it definitely matters the speed you use i jus take the safe option of burnin at 4x even though its slow its increases the chances especially on Nero
i used to burn on 32x and on certain CD's it worked without any probzz (mostly the unbranded ones) however i encountered many probz wen burning at 32x on branded CD's
my problem was solved by a slower burn
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24. June 2003 @ 04:02 |
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I know exactly what you mean, i never really go higher than 8x usually! depends on what i am burning!!
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cd-rw.org
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24. June 2003 @ 22:49 |
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I disagree.
If you are using a quality drive and quality media, you can burn .AVI files at any speed you wish. I'd say that something is wrong if you need to reduce speed for smooth regular data CD playback - your Cd-R, CD-ROM or CD-R media isn't doing what it is supposed to do.
But of course, it's always better to be safe than sorry, and there is no harm in burning at lower speeds. And reducing the speed generally does improve burn quality.
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Shoey
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25. June 2003 @ 05:20 |
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If you are using a quality drive and quality media, you can burn .AVI files at any speed you wish.
Your reply post (in part) is inaccurate simply because many dvd-roms can't or have trouble reading media burned at high speeds m8. The same applies if you play the backup in a cd-rom, cdrw.
Shoey
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25. June 2003 @ 16:24 |
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dvd players? shoey we're talking about burning avi files, not vcd/svcd so the speed wouldnt matter as much because nothing is really changing, the data is just being burned as it already is! but burning at 52x is way to high IMO!
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. June 2003 @ 19:04
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Shoey
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26. June 2003 @ 02:37 |
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dvd players? shoey we're talking about burning AVI files, not vcd/SVCD so the speed wouldnt matter as much because nothing is really changing, the data is just being burned as it already is! but burning at 52x is way to high IMO!
Read my reply post very carefully Dela. The playback of AVI files burned at high speeds in dvd\cd-r(w)-roms can be "unstable" as this is a well known issue.
Shoey :)
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26. June 2003 @ 09:31 |
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I agree but i have burned divx up to 32x and it was fine, and thats with 2 burners! As for vcd/svcd i wouldnt go over 8x!
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abrogard
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13. July 2003 @ 18:47 |
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Well I'm staggered.... Thanks for all the replies, guys and sorry I didn't seem to be paying attention. That's because I wasn't.
I set the email address to one I rarely use and consequently didn't receive the notifications.
I accept what Dela says about 8x and that's what staggers me... only 8x !!!! But i'll do it.
Actually I burned four disks with .AVI at about 32 yesterday and they all seem okay but I love belts and braces, extra certain, real security, a good job - so I'll burn at 8x if it makes for a better burn.
Maybe no one is reading this thread now but if they are can I ask about that mention of 'overburning'? My disks are marked as 700mb. Many .AVI movies seem to be just over this size - that's caused me to cut them up with virtual dub and record in two parts.
Can I use this 'overburning' to squeeze them onto the disk?
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abrogard
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abrogard
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13. July 2003 @ 18:48 |
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Abrogard = Jepboro, same guy. Frequently forgets which name or email address he's using today....
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abrogard
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13. July 2003 @ 18:51 |
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Shin555
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13. July 2003 @ 18:58 |
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Has anyone ever thought that he may be using crap CD-R's?
Because i burn AVI's all the time with Nero and i set it to maximum speed, and i have never had a problem and thats running at over 40x, a full 700mb cd only takes 3 minutes and it shouldn't be anymore. 8x speed will be around 15mins i think, and if i soun arrogant i'm sorry but in this day and age with technology getting better and much faster we shouldn't have to wait as long.
Look at broadband internet, if you suddenly change to a crap 56k dial-up you'll be pulling your hair out.
ANYWAY stick to a high speed, and buy better quality CD-R's, thats what i recommend.
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13. July 2003 @ 19:25 |
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8x speed will be around 15mins i think, and if i soun arrogant i'm sorry but in this day and age with technology getting better and much faster we shouldn't have to wait as long.
True but some people havent updated their computers in the last few years so with old ass processors and brand new burners, high speed is just not a good idea!
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Maybe no one is reading this thread now but if they are can I ask about that mention of 'overburning'? My disks are marked as 700mb. Many .AVI movies seem to be just over this size - that's caused me to cut them up with virtual dub and record in two parts.
Actually 700mb is about 720 or something like that really. But to enable overburn, click file - preferences and click the expert features tab, enable overburn and set it to 90 minutes or something like that!
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abrogard
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13. July 2003 @ 19:35 |
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Yes, maybe I'm using poor quality stock. They are called 'BENQ', bought here in China and recommended as the ones to get by the guy in the shop (from all the others he sells).
They cost 2yuan. About 25cents american I think.
The computer is not too good, but not too bad, either. About 1.4g I think. I'm too lazy to look. Is there a quick one or two click or keystroke way to see your own computer specs I wonder.
Thanks for your help especially Dela. I read your manual and downloaded emule and use it on your recommendation..
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13. July 2003 @ 19:37 |
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Right click on My Computer and click property's that will tell you enuff :-)
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Shoey
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14. July 2003 @ 09:42 |
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Has anyone ever thought that he may be using crap CD-R's?
Because i burn AVI's all the time with Nero and i set it to maximum speed, and i have never had a problem and thats running at over 40x, a full 700mb cd only takes 3 minutes and it shouldn't be anymore. 8x speed will be around 15mins i think, and if i soun arrogant i'm sorry but in this day and age with technology getting better and much faster we shouldn't have to wait as long.
Look at broadband internet, if you suddenly change to a crap 56k dial-up you'll be pulling your hair out.
ANYWAY stick to a high speed, and buy better quality CD-R's, thats what i recommend.
You should do some serious research before you post such nonsense m8! Comparing ISP speeds (cable, dsl) to dial-up vs. burning AVI format fast is a poor comparison! If the video playback (AVI) burned at high speeds works for you then that's fine but you have to take into account not all dvd\cd-roms can read AVI format burned at high speeds m8.
The same applies when burning (S)VCD!
Shoey :)
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14. July 2003 @ 12:58 |
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Actually I find it is way more important with VCD/SVCD, a lot of playback problems have been linked simply to high speed burning!
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Shin555
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14. July 2003 @ 13:04 |
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Hey m8 i was just using it as an example of things how move on and get faster.
I think anyone would get pretty whazzed off if they were burning stuff in pretty quick time, and then all of a sudden they had to wait ages for a burn because they have to reduce there speed.
AND IT WAS ONLY MY OPINION or is it against the law to have one of these?
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but you have to take into account not all dvd\cd-roms can read AVI format burned at high speeds
OK, i agree with that one!!
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14. July 2003 @ 13:15 |
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Shoey isnt having a go at you or anything mate its just that in all the time he has been on the forum (and myself) there have been endless problems solved by lowering burning speed!
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abrogard
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14. July 2003 @ 15:54 |
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Hi guys...
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all dvd\cd-roms can read AVI format burned at high speeds m8.
The same applies when burning (S)VCD!
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I find that very interesting but you seem to be in agreement about it. Why would that happen, technically? What difference does burning at high speed make that stops some players being able to read?
It seems I asked a good question and the answer is very much in the affirmative. All things being equal if you get problems look to burning speed first as a possible/probable cause. And, in fact, to make a good product capable of being read by the widest range of players.. burn at the slowest speed you can put up with.
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Shin555
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14. July 2003 @ 16:13 |
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burn at the slowest speed you can put up with
But just what is the slowest speed people can put up with??
It goes back to what i said earlier, that in this day and age where technology gets faster and better, people become impatient.
And i think from now on that is the way it will always be, because in the future when burning will be perfect running at 48x, people may want to burn at 64x, or maybe thats just being greedy?
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