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Auslander
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12. September 2006 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Today, something occurred to me. Here on Afterdawn, we've had many threads that speak loudly for the personalities, interests, etc. of our members. We've had threads for your favorite movie, video game, sig....the list goes on. However, to the furthest extent of my knowledge, we've never had a thread for members' favorite literature.

Thinking about psychology, that seems to press the idea that we're becoming a thoughtless, memory-free society with no grasp of its past or pleasure beyond the instant-gratification of visual stimulation. It would lead one to believe that the countless hours of work that go into our arts are becoming less appreciated by the audience as those that starve for their work press on, if only to bring a new level of beauty to our senses.

Irony doesn't fail: on a site that can only be used with a decent grasp of written lanuage, we're becoming illiterate.

And so, I introdude the Your Favorite Book Thread. The following are my leading 20 favorite books off the top of my head. In my very humble opinion, everyone should read them, as they very much assist in the process of developing a logical thought process and push one to question absolutely everything, as this is the path to truth.

1. The Catcher in the Rye
2. The Stranger
3. The Call of the Wild
4. The Picture of Dorian Gray
5. The Art of War
6. Tao Te Ching
7. The Sound and the Fury
8. The Heart of Darkness
9. Animal Farm
10. Hatchet
11. The Face
12. The Shining
13. Insomnia
14. The Invisible Man
15. Of Mice and Men
16. A Wrinkle in Time
17. To Kill a Mockinbird
18. The Works of Henry David Thoreau
19. The Works of Nathaniel Hawthorne
20. Dracula

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fixed a few grammatical errors.


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12. September 2006 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One book that has always stuck with me is empty world by John Christopher, I read it in high school and it totally captured my imagination
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12. September 2006 @ 09:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i remember you recommending that book before. as soon as i get the chance, i'm going to hit up the library here and try to track it down.


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12. September 2006 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Auslander...It would take me a bit of time to produce such a list; your's and mine would share much in common though. You wrote that many of those books listed help develop a logical thought process and while I certainly cannot disagree with that observation, I would like to point out that the weight of their message(s), is communicated through a "learnt" logical thought process. What do I mean by a "learnt" logical process? I'm talking about "logic" as a true academic discipline rather than a mere inference of sensibility which is what it has, unfortunately, come to mean. Every now and again, I'll hear a phrase that echoes the rigors of "the science of reasoning" as it was until not long ago; idioms such as "it just doesn't add up" or "he really minds his Ps and Qs" allude to a disciplne of thought which has all but vanished.

Until the 1950s or so (depending on one's country and when that country changed its philosophies on education) ALL educational pursuits were subject to first honing to a fine edge the demands, constraints and rules of reasoning through which ALL learning occurs; indeed, learning can occur through no other means. They use to call it a "classical education". All learning comes through reason, therefore, learn to reason sharply and flawlessly and you will learn anything else far more thoroughly as EVERYTHING that can be learnt is subject to the dictates of logic and reason. Not all that long ago, one studied philosophy and logic before anything else...whether you were a writer, a teacher, a mathematician, a musician....the result of your efforts were always far better understood by you and far better communicated to those for whom it had some importance. Literature has suffered enormously since this approach to education has been abandoned in the name of expidiance.

In another thread, you wrote that you were taking philosophy and logic courses; I was glad to hear it. Learn to think, reason and communicate in a strict and disciplined manner and not only will you're understanding of subjects be better but so too will the understanding and experience of those fortunate enough to listen to what you have to say.

So, let me list a couple of books anyway:

1. The Confessions of Saint Augustine
2. Dialog between a priest and a dying man ...Marquis de Sade
3. Letters from the Earth - Mark Twain
4. Gulliver's Travels
5. The Importance of being Ernest
6. I. Claudius
7. Egyptian Book of the Dead
8. A Road Less Traveled
9. Narcissus and Goldman
10. Various Novels by Wilbur Smith
11. THe Scarlet Letter
12. Lord of the Flies
13. Frankenstein
14. Dracula
15. Various Sherlock Holmes novels
16. THe Devil Rides Out ...Dennis Wheatly (this is occult for real and can make your blood run cold)
17 Swiss Family Robinson
18. Various Dumas Novels
19. Scarlet Pimpernel of the Vatican
20 A cry to heaven

LOL...guess it wasn't that hard to come up with a list afterall!

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12. September 2006 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i completely forgot about several on that list, gerry. the others i'm going to have to check out. ^.^

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i appreciate all that you had to say, as well. i wish there were more people like yourself around during my ...developmental years.


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Auslander, you seem to be progressing quite nicely. I had 7 on your list but only 4 on Gerry's list which seem excellent reading also "Book of the Dead" sounds interesting. My favorite readings back when I actually read more. Were non-fiction works by Isaac Asimov. He could explain any and everything. He died too young. He would have had a field day today. My favorite two were his History of the Bible-Old Testament and History of the Bible-New Testament. Very well done.


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12. September 2006 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thank you, garmoon. Asimov...i know the name, but not the works. i'll have to look into those, too!


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12. September 2006 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have not read many novels lately, being raised in a private catholic school surrounding, I have read most of the books listed. Now I rely on 3 different newspapers and crossword puzzles for stimulation while not online. When I travel however, I always have a good book ready for the flight/ride and the same guy who was the origin of the Hellraiser movies Clive Barker writes the best modern horror/philosophical/makes you question life through the faults of others stories that keep your book open till complete. The cheap movie theatrics of all the Hellraiser sequels give no respect to the written word.

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12. September 2006 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay, now i might as well fire up an office program and make a list of stuff to get from the library. keep it coming, all!


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12. September 2006 @ 15:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I haven't read a lot of Clive Barker but he certainly writes well as does another Brit horror author I really like named Brian Lumley who writes the best and most unusual vampire novels I've ever read. I know where not talking about spiritual, soul moving material...but entertaining anyway.

@garmoon ... the Egyptian book of the dead is the oldest known religious literature in existance. Many scholars believe that Moses borrowed a great deal from the book of the dead ...the ten commandments, a great deal of levitical law etc.etc. As for me, I first got a taste for it in the seminary many years ago but I don't read it as an exercise in comparative religion but rather for its own sake ... its quite beautiful in itself (havne't read it in a long time though).

Quote:
"Hail to thee, great God, Lord of the Two Truths. I have come unto thee, my Lord, that thou mayest bring me to see thy beauty. I know thee, I know thy name, I know the names of the 42 Gods who are with thee in this broad hall of the Two Truths . . . Behold, I am come unto thee. I have brought thee truth; I have done away with sin for thee. I have not sinned against anyone. I have not mistreated people. I have not done evil instead of righteousness . . .
I have not reviled the God.
I have not laid violent hands on an orphan.
I have not done what the God abominates . . .
I have not killed; I have not turned anyone over to a killer.
I have not caused anyone's suffering . . .
I have not copulated (illicitly); I have not been unchaste.
I have not increased nor diminished the measure, I have not diminished the palm; I have not encroached upon the fields.
I have not added to the balance weights; I have not tempered with the plumb bob of the balance.
I have not taken milk from a child's mouth; I have not driven small cattle from their herbage...
I have not stopped (the flow of) water in its seasons; I have not built a dam against flowing water.
I have not quenched a fire in its time . . .
I have not kept cattle away from the God's property.
I have not blocked the God at his processions. 5




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12. September 2006 @ 16:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow, okay, i've got to get to the library tomorrow.


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12. September 2006 @ 17:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Asimov was a rather prolific author:
http://www.asimovonline.com/oldsite/asimov_titles.html

He was also a seriously dirty old man LOL! Somewhere around 1971 or 1972, my best friend's sister was on some lecture series committee and they'd secured Asimov as a speaker (he was extremely popular at the time) and they'd sold a huge number of tickets. He kept making passes at her and wouldn't take no for an answer. ...I'm not talking some sort of assault here but just very aggressive attempts at getting what he wanted.

Aus, what is "Ihr Lieblingsbuch". Just a suggestion: stay away from Augustine's Confessions ... some of the most beautiful stuff ever written but you have to work for it...some heavy mental masturbation in that one so its a lot of work to read. If you've never read "Letters from the Earth" by Twain, I'd take out that one. The first fifty pages or so are hysterical. Satan was kicked out of heaven and stops by earth ... he is just so baffeled by the foolishness and senselessness of god's creation that he writes these comical letters back to his friends in heaven describing this huge, divine error. It really is hysterical. If memory serves, the book was actually illegal for a very long time because of the blasphemy in its pages. I think they only started publishing it in the 1950s but it's been a long time, I could be wrong.

I've never read "The Art of War" but I understand that it too, is one of the world's timeless classics studied by many disciplines.


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12. September 2006 @ 17:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
/me laughs hard. that's great, ger!
"Ihr Lieblingsbuch" is a rough translation of "your favorite book" in german. i figured it might attract curiosity and more serious attention than the english version would from the typical fecktards around here.


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25. September 2006 @ 07:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
for sheer comic relief, i now add Bush-Whacked...about our lovely president. i can't discuss it further, due to the ban on political debate, but you all should definitely give it a read...it's all of his "famous quotes."


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25. September 2006 @ 17:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
aus what you fail to realize is that while your thread title may catch attention, unfortunately i doubt most of the people on hear read books, at least in some of the threads ive seen.

any way a list of my favorite books would be too long, so ill break it down into authorsand a few titles:

Tom Clancy
Stephen King (one of the greatest authors of the day imho.)
Christopher Paolini
Angels and Demons
Harry Potter books (yes laugh all you want)
There are a few more authors that i cant remeber the names of at the mo
Guests of the Ayatollah
On the Beach
To kill a Mocking Bird


There are a few others too.




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25. September 2006 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Harry Potter books (yes laugh all you want)
Well since you've broken the ice, I will admit to reading them all as well...they are very entertaining.

My list is short and includes some of the books already listed in the thread already.

Lord of the Flies
Wonderland Avenue - Danny Sugerman
Tale of Two Cities - Dickens
Great Expectations - Dickens
Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi, Curt Gentry


I love Dickens and want to read some more of his books in the future, but don't do a whole lot of reading outside the forums as it is. Some other books in the above lists look interesting as well.


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25. September 2006 @ 18:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
speaking of stephen king, the Green Mile rocks my socks.


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Ah yes a great book, as i said one of the best authors imho

Here ya go aus here is "Your Favorite Book" in russian:
Ваша Любимая книга



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my favorite book atm would be The Art Of Deception by Kevin D. Mitnick.
I'll make a list of my favorites and add them to this thread later.

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I dare ya !
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26. September 2006 @ 05:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hehe...it's still alive! ^.^


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26. September 2006 @ 08:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Books i have read in the past few weeks:

To Kill a Mockingbird
Lord of the Flies
Of Mice and Men (started)

Just thought I'd share that little gem with you all ;)



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26. September 2006 @ 08:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
all three are staples, usually required reading in high school. always worth a re-read, too. ^.^


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26. September 2006 @ 08:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes indeed lol - I am doing of mice and men for gcse at school and the others (only rly Lord of the Flies) took my interest but worth a read too :)

I am also a fan of steven king - want to read Cell and have read a few of his short stories eg. The man in a black suit; good book imo.

Another book i thought was quite good was Tree of Night by Truman Capote.

Just finished that one ^ ^ ^ recently.


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26. September 2006 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cell is an incredible read. i couldn't put it down. wasn't capote's book made into the movie Capote?


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Cool, I will be getting Cell then. Could do with a good read; something to inspire me (coursework essay is to wrtie a gothic/thriller story)

And um i am not sure about the film. Will have a look.

Edit: Ah yes,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379725/
Would make for pretty scary watching if they have made a good version of the book!


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