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My Life, no one worries I guess...
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jorahan
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22. September 2006 @ 11:22 |
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for those of us, that are not at the legal age of moving out in germany, and migrating back to australia... My mum cheated on my dad right? then divorced him, my brother ran away to england, and then my mum married my stepdad. who has a messed up family who i get caught up in and spat back out. Ontop of that, i have repeated grade 12 twice, and am into my 3rd, because i dont know german. i commute for 3 hours everyday, and have a clingny girlfreind who is threating to kill herself if i break up with her.
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sorry letting off a little steam
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22. September 2006 @ 13:13 |
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If ye want to vent stuff like this, get a shrink...
irc://arcor.de.eu.dal.net/wasted_hate
Wanna tell me off, go ahead.
I dare ya !
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22. September 2006 @ 13:54 |
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ummm...let her kill herself. we don't need people like her breeding. while you're assisting her suicide, go ahead and kill your whole family.
*reported*
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22. September 2006 @ 14:08 |
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reported for what? its in the safety valve. tho ill give u the option jorahan to clean up the threeat title and post a bit.
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22. September 2006 @ 14:12 |
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reported for his thread-spanning offensive language, Dela.
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22. September 2006 @ 14:26 |
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just trying to help him learn the same lesson, Dela ^.~
btw, nice to see you around. i don't think i've seen you post anything but news in a while.
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22. September 2006 @ 15:48 |
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hmmmm...interesting thread.
@jorahan...while I cannot identify with much of what you wrote, I certainly can with the language thing ... I went to French speaking grammmar unt junior high schools but attended an English speaking high school. I, too, got kept back. (A story for another occasion).
I'm curious, jorahan, how did an english speaking kid end up in a german speaking high school? ... sounds terribly inefficient of the germans ... hell, even in U.S. schools, they have ways to deal with non english speaking students in the ed system. (Well, they use to in my day; now you needn't learn english if you don't want to).
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22. September 2006 @ 16:22 |
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@Dela, I do not need to quote forum rules to you but I will...I refer to rule 6..Quote:
6. No foul language, insults, personal attacks or otherwise rude messages
so I feel that Auslander certainly had the right to report a breach of forum rules. I believe we wish to keep the forum a respectable site and not to lower our standards to that of other sites.
I have also reported the use of bad language in this thread and the other thread srarted by jorahan.
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22. September 2006 @ 16:27 |
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I wonder if something simply got out of hand at one time or another in the past. Occasionally I'll go through the old threads and I'm always taken aback at the language then compared to now.
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22. September 2006 @ 16:45 |
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6. No foul language, insults, personal attacks or otherwise rude messages
Although Aus was right Dela was too.......I mean since this is the rule does this mean I could report the Bitch thread title because it has a foul language. I mean sometimes I think it is ok...As long it is not too Overboard. Considering his situation I don't blame him.
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22. September 2006 @ 16:58 |
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yes, but you didn't see his anti-school thread.
*edit*
and thank you, gwen.
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23. September 2006 @ 00:56 |
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i edit out all foul language, whatever forum it's in. The less offensive words are ok (i'm no prude)
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23. September 2006 @ 02:51 |
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I most certainly am not a "prude" either but I do take offense to the use of the "F" word...there is no need for it and expressing it on an open forum where we are subject to scrutiny should be avoided. I will ALWAYS report it and expect , as has in this case, action taken to have it edited.
@Creaky and ddp, thank you for your actions, Cheers.
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23. September 2006 @ 04:52 |
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children of afterdawn please read this..
THOSE FOUR-LETTER WORDS
When people who care for school-age children get together, they almost always discuss the use of "bad" language. The first time you hear a 6-year-old or a 10-year-old let loose with a whole string of unacceptable words, it can be quite a shock!
Inappropriate language is not limited to school-age children. However, it certainly is more common with this group. Here are some things you can do to keep those "four-letter words" under control!
HAVE CLEAR RULES
Avoid problems from the start by setting clear rules at the beginning of the year. If kids understand that certain language is not allowed, they will be less likely to use it. When setting rules, it is important to discuss why the rule is needed. Involving kids in actually developing the rules will make it more likely they will follow them.
UNDERSTAND WHY CHILDREN USE UNACCEPTABLE LANGUAGE AND TEACH THEM ALTERNATIVES
When a child begins to use unacceptable words, it is important to know why. Children say these words for many different reasons. Sometimes, the words are used out of ignorance. At other times, children use them to meet a need. If you understand why they are doing it, you will be more likely to deal with the problem in an effective way. Here are some reasons why young people use inappropriate language and some suggestions for dealing with each situation.
- TO BE ACCEPTED BY FRIENDS. A child with poor social skills may not know how to enter a group, how to work with others, or how to be a friend. The only way that child may be able to get attention from the other kids is to use inappropriate language. Teaching social skills to the child will help eliminate the real cause of the problem. The unacceptable language will probably stop also.
- TO SHOCK ADULTS. Sometimes, young people learn that using certain words gives them power over adults. It is hard for adults to hear kids using certain words because we understand the meaning of those words. However, young people often do not know what the words mean. They say the words simply because others react to them. Stay calm and don't overreact when children use these words. In this way, you take away some of the shock value of the words.
- BECAUSE THEY HEAR IT AT HOME. Children come from many different family situations. In some homes, using certain language is acceptable. There is little you can do about this. Blaming the parents will not change the child's behavior in the child care setting. A more effective tactic is to explain to the child that the words are not acceptable in your program.
- TO EXPRESS THEIR EMOTIONS. Some words are often heard during arguments or when a child is frustrated. In this case, it is important to teach the child acceptable ways to express her emotions. You could say, "Name-calling isn't allowed here because it hurts peoples feelings. If you are mad at Jerry, tell him that you are mad at him." Or you might say, "I understand you are frustrated with your project. But the word you said bothers people. If you are upset, you may say `Rats!' (or whatever word you feel is acceptable) instead." Also, make sure the activity is right for the child. Perhaps an easier project is in order.
- TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY MEAN. Many times, children use words without understanding what they mean. Sometimes, children use these words because they want to know what they mean. This often happens with sexual terms. A brief explanation of what the word means will often take care of the problem. Therefore, you may want to let parents know that the child is using these words. You might say, "Mrs. Arnold, Jim has started calling other children `X.' This is very common at this age. Jim probably doesn't know what the word means. He may even be saying it because he wants to know what it means."
ESTABLISH REASONABLE CONSEQUENCES
These examples show the importance of teaching children alternatives to using inappropriate language. However, this teaching takes time. Some children will need the added incentive of consequences to help them stop using the forbidden words. It is important to choose consequences carefully and to use them sparingly. The consequence should be reasonable and carefully tied to the behavior. For example, if a child uses unacceptable language around other children, the child may need to play alone for 15 minutes. If a child continually swears while completing a project, he may need to put the project away until the next day. Children who repeatedly use words to shock their teachers may need to tell their parents what words they said.
Try having the children set their own consequences. You will probably have to tone them down a bit. It's not reasonable to stay out of an activity for a week! However, young people are more likely to accept consequences they have established for themselves.
Four-letter words are common during the school years. If you understand why they are used and use appropriate guidance and discipline techniques, you can help to eliminate their use in the child care setting.
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24. September 2006 @ 10:22 |
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I see foul language at all times on aD and believe it or not, moderators are told not to enforce all rules with the same actions as say... spammers would receive. I was just trying to cut a kid some slack and I didn't back auslander into any corner at all and I'm sure he knows that, I just gave my view and I have to say there's a very biased system on aD who gets rules like that about foul language enforced on them and who doesnt.
And to be honest, I don't exactly like being challenged for an opinion of mine, esp. challenges that make it look like I slapped auslander on the wrist or something (lol - that sounds so weird) which I obviously didn't, I have utmost respect for him and the rest of the extreme regulars who keep this forum alive.
So if anyone still has a problem with me expressing my opinion, then go talk to an Admin cause I'm completely sure they'd see that I'm right.
Oh and in case someone didn't bother to read the post I just wrote, I WAS NOT pulling auslander up about anything, just expressing an opinion.
So, now we can all be friends again ;-)
Oh and one lkast thing, dont ever edit my posts again without at least letting me know. I put in the F word as part of a statement that it simply happens all the time on aD., Personally I find calling someone retarded is far worse, and that always happens on aD.
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24. September 2006 @ 10:36 |
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I didn't back auslander into any corner at all and I'm sure he knows that
that i do. as far as i recall, you've never been unfair to me or any other member on AD. we might hold slightly differing opinions, but as in general on these forums, that is tolerated as we all work towards a common goal. none of your responses caused me any...negative feelings. ^.^
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24. September 2006 @ 10:46 |
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'twas me who edited Dela's post (sorry Dela thought you'd noticed lol). my fingers are often quicker than my brain. i only edited it as unfortunately there are posters who criticise what the staff members say and how the mods do things so i guess i got a little trigger happy.
..which wouldn't be a problem if posters didn't criticise staff or mods (not implying anyone in this thread has done that btw). can't you tell i've been on AD too much today :)
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'twas me who edited Dela's post. my fingers are often quicker than my brain. i only edited it as unfortunately there are posters who criticise what the staff members say and how the mods do things so i guess i got a little trigger happy.
Hey no prob, I know u followed rules and everything and yep you're right to do as u see fit. T'will be a strange day when we'vbe got beef creaky ;-) lol
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24. September 2006 @ 11:11 |
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F@@k is an English word which, when used literally as a verb, means "to engage in sexual intercourse".
It is generally considered offensive and one of the most vulgar words in the English language and a swear word.
and i agree....
It is sometimes referred to as the f-word. Like many English words, the origin of the word may be Germanic, originating from the German "Ficken", which means "to strike". Another theory stems from medieval England, where fornication was illegal for a time except under special permission given by the King, or Fonication Under the Concession of the King (F.@.@.K).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
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25. September 2006 @ 12:25 |
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jorahan, hope you sort yourself out, man.
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25. September 2006 @ 12:42 |
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Yeah, Me too. Sorry to hear about that stuff
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25. September 2006 @ 20:46 |
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for those of us, that are not at the legal age of moving out in germany, and migrating back to australia... My mum cheated on my dad right? then divorced him, my brother ran away to england, and then my mum married my stepdad. who has a messed up family who i get caught up in and spat back out. Ontop of that, i have repeated grade 12 twice, and am into my 3rd, because i dont know german. i commute for 3 hours everyday, and have a clingny girlfreind who is threating to kill herself if i break up with her.
:'(
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@Dela, I, too, appreciate the support and assistance you have given me in the past...I trust that you didnt take it too personal or as an attack on you...I just dont think language of that type is necessary..and I wanted to express my views.
Cheers.
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26. September 2006 @ 05:03 |
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i_suck, your sig is lik 19 times the size limit. you need to change that, buddy.
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26. September 2006 @ 05:09 |
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oh good grief; i_suck, that sig is like having to download a 2hour movie everytime the page is refreshed, let's see something sensible ASAP or my internet bill is gonna have your name on it
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