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vomitscab
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25. November 2006 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey All, I had a lot of trouble with the video conversion for the Sansa e250 but finally figured it out and signed up for Afterdawn just to post this. Anyway, like a lot of people on here I had a problem loading large video files without them breaking up into annoying ten minute clips. I finally figured out how to do it:

First download the Firmware updater from here: http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1376
run it and install. YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. The rest of this guide will not work if you don't.

Next open the file SanDisk_E200_MSC.apr with notepad. It's located in C:/Program Files/SanDisk/Sansa Media Converter/Profiles
edit ONLY the bold numbers to look like this:

[DEVICE]
HID=VID_0781&PID_7421
PhotoFolder=Photo
AudioFolder=Audio
VideoFolder=Video
DeviceIcon=hcata_e200
EnableAlbum=1
DefaultAlbum=My Album

[TRANSCODE]
FilenameLength=1000
FilenameExclude=
FilenameRenameCap=
UniqueFilename=0
PromptCompatible=0
CheckPhotoCompatible=1
CheckAudioCompatible=1
CheckVideoCompatible=1
UseArcAviWriter=0
ArcAviWriterMode=2
ArcAviWriterModeDesc=AVI_TIME(0),AVI_SAMPLE(1),AVI_CONTROL(2)
SplitTime=600

[OUTPUT_FORMAT]
PhotoFmts=Jpeg File(JPG),Bitmap File(BMP)
DefPhotoFmt=JPG
PhotoSaveMode=BMP(2),JPG(4)
AudioFmts=Mp3 File(MP3)
DefAudioFmt=MP3
VideoFmts=Motion JPEG B(MOV)
DefVideoFmt=MOV
VideoSaveMode=AVI(256),MPG(257),WMV(258),MOV(259),ASF(261)

[OPTIMIZE]
PhotoFmt=BMP
PhotoSize=176x220
PhotoQuality=100
AudioFmt=
AudioBits=
AudioSmpBits=
AudioChnl=
VideoFmt=MOV
Resolution=160x208
VideoEncoder=MotionJPEGB codec
AudioEncoder=16-bit big endian
VideoBitrate=o
AudioBitrate=
AudioSmplrate=11025
VideoFps=15.00
RotateDegree=270

[BMP]
FileExtName=BMP
SaveMode=2
Resolutions=320x240,640x480,720x480,800x600,1024x768
DefResolution=640x480

[MOV]
FileExtName=MOV
SaveMode=259
VideoEncodes=MotionJPEGB codec
DefaultVideoEncode=MotionJPEGB codec
AudioEncodes=UnCompressed,16-bit big endian,16-bit little endian,32-bit floating point,64-bit floating point,24-bit integer,32-bit integer,MACE 3:1,MACE 6:1,IMA 4:1,.Law 2:1,aLaw 2:1
DefaultAudioEncoder=24-bit integer
Fps=15.00,20.00,24.00,25.00,29.97
DefaultFps=15.00
AudioBitrate=
DefaultAudioBitrate=
VideoBitrate=Lossless Quality(100),Max Quality(100),High Quality(75),Normal Quality(50),Low Quality(25),Min Quality(0)
DefaultVideoBitrate=0
AudioSmplrate=
DefaultAudioSmplrate=44100
Resolutions=208x160
DefaultResolution=208x160

The bold numbers are the ONLY ones you should adjust. Split time affects (obviously) at what amount of time the video is split.
The other two affect video quality and therefore file size. I personally have mine set at SplitTime=7200 (2hr. cut off) Videobitrate=35 (half of original) and DefaultVideoBitrate=2 (also half of original).

Next open the file SanDisk_E200_MTP.apr with notead. It is located in the same directory. Adjust the parameters to match those of the last file.

Finally restart SMC and run as normal! I hope this helps some people. Thanks to sracer and vidiot250.

We don't have time for mysteries sherlock homo!
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rmustang
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26. November 2006 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hav a problem,, when i am converting a movie using sansa media converter,,, the video and sound are breakin,, i mean the sound goes first and then the video... some body help
mcfz
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27. November 2006 @ 10:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello :)

I managed to get a conversion of a video.

Issue.

The DivX file is 700MB (approx).

The MOV file for the Sansa is 636MB (approx).

If I went from an ASPECT ratio of ... 720x304 ... and the SMC changed it to a 160x208, should the file size not be a BIT SMALLER?!

Please educate me :)

if you can say my name, mcfz, you will win a prize...

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BJLittle
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27. November 2006 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm trying to modify the video split time on my e250r. Unfortunately the file that keeps getting mentioned on here doesn't exist on my hard drive. I do have a "C:\ProgramFiles\SanDisk" directory, but I have no "Profiles" folder in here or any ".apr" files located anywhere in the SanDisk folder. Anyone have any idea where this "SanDisk_E200_MSC.apr" file would exist then?
BJLittle
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27. November 2006 @ 13:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I figured out that you have to modify the DeviceConfig.xml to get the video file to not split into parts. My next problem is that when I tried to watch the movie on my e250r, the video lagged slightly behind the audio, but when I opened the movie file from that is on the e250r on my laptop, it played just fine. does anyone know how to fix the problem of the lagging video?
jp1216
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28. November 2006 @ 07:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had the 2-4 second audio gap too, until I updated the firmware. Not it's perfect - except for the fact they only play .MOV files....
jp1216
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28. November 2006 @ 07:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BTW - The above settings for the .APR files work great. Cut file sizes down in half and you don't notice the quality loss. Now if only they would out a firmware update to allow .AVI and .MPG files - without conversion.
jp1216
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28. November 2006 @ 09:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there any way to scroll through a video? Like a 2 hour movie etc. thanks
brett6671
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2. December 2006 @ 03:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey everybody i was wondering if sombody could help me out buy giving me a link for the media converter because i lost mine :( or em ail it to me @ brett123123@hotmail.com

brett hunt
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2. December 2006 @ 07:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i was considering the sansa 8gb untill i read that movies and pictures had to be converted, how long does it take to do the conversions and is it a big hassle?
should i buy an ipod video instead =(
mcfz
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5. December 2006 @ 05:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1 --- I changed FILES as said and it still breaks up the video clip in to pieces :(

2 --- The video files are still massive :(



if you can say my name, mcfz, you will win a prize...
mkrsf
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7. December 2006 @ 03:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BJLittle:
Ok I figured out that you have to modify the DeviceConfig.xml to get the video file to not split into parts. My next problem is that when I tried to watch the movie on my e250r, the video lagged slightly behind the audio, but when I opened the movie file from that is on the e250r on my laptop, it played just fine. does anyone know how to fix the problem of the lagging video?
hi!...i also have this problem.
so far i have visited a lot of forums but there seems to be no one answering to this question...
=(
BJLittle
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7. December 2006 @ 05:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea, i don't know why no one has figured this out yet. i have a feeling it has to do with memory and how much it can handle open at one time. if you notice, when it opens a video file of movie length and size, it takes a little longer to start than when opening a smaller video. I have a feeling it's storing it all in some sort of temporary memory that the player also uses to run it's basic functions, and because most of the memory is now taken up by a large video file being played, it is lagging similar to a computer from the early 90's would lag if you are doing too much on it at once and using all it's available temporary memory. i didn't develop this product though, so don't take my word on it. if you happen to find anything on how to fix this problem let me know.
Petmc20
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7. December 2006 @ 16:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello guys. I just bought the Sansa player the other day. Uploading music is fine, but when I try to convert movies in the converter, I get the message "player was not found" or something to that extent. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
mcfz
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8. December 2006 @ 06:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What is the file size of your movie on the Sansa?

I have taken a 2hr15min movie which was a 715MB AVI, ran it through the SMC and it stored it at 686MB or so on the player?! What gives?

Why is the file size so big?!

if you can say my name, mcfz, you will win a prize...
ehharley1
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8. December 2006 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can I compress a movie to .avi format using CloneMobileDvd and then use SMC to transfer it to the sansa e250

ehharley
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12. December 2006 @ 17:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I first got my Sandisk Sansa e250 I had no problems what so ever transferring videos.
Then, one day the videos I had one it erased themselves, and since then ever single video I try to add to it doesn't work.
It converts to 100% than says that it failed to transfer to device.
I have tried everything.
Asked on every site I could find, but no one seems to know what's wrong with it or how to fix it.
Please, if anyone knows anything about what's wrong with it please post. I don't know what else to do.
vomitscab
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13. December 2006 @ 12:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you tried updating your firmware?

We don't have time for mysteries sherlock homo!
Petmc20
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13. December 2006 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I updated the firmware, it still cant read or transfer to the device

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ehharley1
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13. December 2006 @ 16:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey vomit, can i use any other software, such as cloneMobile to compress the movies

ehharley
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ehharley1
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13. December 2006 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey vomit, can i use any other software, such as cloneMobile to compress the movies. I know you have to use SMC to upload the movie

ehharley
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vomitscab
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13. December 2006 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm by no means an expert at video conversion or the sansa e200 series but i will try to troubleshoot with you folks the best I can:
rmustang: I would guess that the problem is occuring when you convert the file. Try not to run any other applications or interrupt the program during the process and see what happens.
mcfz: The reason you are getting such large files is because SMC converts all files to MOV or Quicktime. The QuickTime format is an extremely inefficient antiquated format, compared to new formats today. Any file you convert will range from either slightly less to slightly more and be of a worse quality than the original. Anyway, you could lower the framerate to decrease size or try compressing the file with another program. I havn't tried the latter option but it should work. Those are the only suggestions I have right now. As for your movies breaking up, did you change BOTH files? Make sure. I had the same problem when I first embarked on this process.
jp1216: You can scroll through a movie by holding down the forward arrow button on the right side of the scroll wheel. It's not very fast and I find it's very easy to accidentally hit it twice and skip the entire movie alltogether but it's the only option available for fast forwarding.
eharley1: Once again, I'm not certain on this but you should be able to compress any file you want before converting it as long as the compressed output is a file type recognized by SMC. i.e. Windows AVI, MPEG, Video CD (.DAT), Advance Systems Format (.ASF), DVD (.VOB), QuickTime (.MOV), and MPEG-4 (.MP4).
Thumpette: I've looked through a lot of web pages trying to fid an answer to your question but I've had no luck. You said you've updated the firmware. Are you having transfer problems with audio files? Is the sansa being recognized in MTP and MSC modes? Have you tried reinstallig SMC? Try these things out and let's see if we can isolate the problem.


We don't have time for mysteries sherlock homo!
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13. December 2006 @ 22:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks vomitscab for trying to help me.
Not a lot of people do that, but just last night I fixed my problem.
All I had to do was switch over to MTP mode and now it works fine.
I feel really dumb for not figuring that out for long, but I am not very good at stuff like that.
I barely know how to operate a computer.
Thanks!
ehharley1
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14. December 2006 @ 07:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks Vomitscab

ehharley
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Fsid
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18. December 2006 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To get a video that is over 10 mins long you have to close most active programs and keep trying. You try to convert it the first time and it might not work but it will definately work the second or third time. It is a glitch in the software.
 
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