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AfterDawn redesign aka "v4" goes live

article published on 16 March, 2010

After almost a year's worth of development, we're happy to reveal the new version of our site, dubbed as "v4". Many things have changed since the previous version - most notably the layout itself, but also the code behind the site has went through some major changes. From now on, all of our various language versions will use the same codebase and same site structure, making further development ... [ read the full article ]

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2. April 2010 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think this is annoying. Can we fix the ads? The over block sometimes 5 threads and you cannot read them. IE8


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14. April 2010 @ 05:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dsstrlght:
Great big uh oh. What happened to the ability to edit and delete comments from your shoutbox or those you posted in someone else's shoutbox on their profile page.
The ability to post, edit and delete shoutbox messages was missing from v4. This has been now fixed. Please let us know if you are still having difficulties editing the shoutbox messages.

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15. April 2010 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dRD:
Originally posted by creaky:
Can't seem to ban anonymous users ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-33/i...841616/#5075543
Yep, that's simply impossible. But then again, anonymous posting is allowed only via news commentary -- and those posts go through AKismet spam blocker, thus the amount of "actual spam" should stay quite low. Blocking spammers based on their IP addresses is like fighting against the windmills...
Just found a spammer in a News article, as can't ban user have edited post for now ~ http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cf...comment-5106693 (poster in preceding post #6 needs removing also)



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drd, that is not true as anonymous posting is also done in tech support as i have deleted a few spammer posts from there. we mods can not do a search for posters who have not signed up but can spam those 2 forums to their hearts delight. do you want to go thru all the threads in those 2 forums to manually edit/delete those posts as that will be time consuming for whoever does it & it won't be us mods. get rid of anonymous posting as it will only cause headaches for you guys.
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Originally posted by ddp:
drd, that is not true as anonymous posting is also done in tech support as i have deleted a few spammer posts from there. we mods can not do a search for posters who have not signed up but can spam those 2 forums to their hearts delight. do you want to go thru all the threads in those 2 forums to manually edit/delete those posts as that will be time consuming for whoever does it & it won't be us mods. get rid of anonymous posting as it will only cause headaches for you guys.
100% agree on this one. Anonymous posting is only going to get worse. Since the launch of aD v4 there is a clear increase in spam that I'm sure ALL aD'ers would rather not deal with, see etc. at the least change it some how to limit it's effects...

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LOL a meeting of the mods :P

No seriously, zero spam is one of the reasons I remain AD faithful. We have a lot of great mods and I know they put up with enough BS in a given day. Anonymous posting doesn't do anything for the site, it only makes things harder for the mods, admins, and so on up the chain.

Also there doesn't seem to be much of a stop gap for spammers or to control troublesome posters. Without an account to ban, a single person basically has free run to say and do what he wants. I'm aware there is a spam blocker in place, but that doesn't stop trolls.

In short, anonymous posting is good in theory, but anyone even vaguely familiar with the ways of the interweb will know better ;P



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Another spammer that needs banning as we Mods can't do it ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/846823/5107624

I have to say, i agree with the other Mods, this unverified new user idea is definitely not my cup of tea either.



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18. April 2010 @ 07:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting how aKismet isn't apparently able to catch the spam when it comes in large volumes. I'll think about alternative solutions, such as adding reCaptcha to anon commentors -- or to simply turn the anon commenting off.

Any "ban this user" is impossible, as the spam comes from botnets, thus every post comes from different IP address.
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Yeah some sort of Captcha image would be a good stop-gap at least.
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18. April 2010 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dRD:
Interesting how aKismet isn't apparently able to catch the spam when it comes in large volumes. I'll think about alternative solutions, such as adding reCaptcha to anon commentors -- or to simply turn the anon commenting off.

Any "ban this user" is impossible, as the spam comes from botnets, thus every post comes from different IP address.
Hi there:

On the Spam side....

A Report sign beside the Reply sign is a good idea like many Video Chat Web-sites; where members help the Moderator to ID the offender fast and take action or maybe not.
After hit Report a pop-up window will open to select the report reason:
1.-This is SPAM
2.-Offensive behavior
3.-Inaccurate comment or out-topic
4.-This is XXX....or wherever
5.-etc, etc.

With the Report Key the bad guys go out of business as fast as they arrive.

Hope this help.

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Originally posted by Mrguss:
A Report sign beside the Reply sign is a good idea like many Video Chat Web-sites; where members help the Moderator to ID the offender fast and take action or maybe not.
Actually there already is a report button - it's at the top right corner of each message. Maybe it's not the most obvious placement - perhaps a link next to the reply button would be better?

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The only trouble is, is that reporting the unverified new users doesn't achieve anything as we can't get rid of them :) ..



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i agree with creaky on the unverified new users. pain in the ass.
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Originally posted by Ketola:
Originally posted by dsstrlght:
Great big uh oh. What happened to the ability to edit and delete comments from your shoutbox or those you posted in someone else's shoutbox on their profile page.
The ability to post, edit and delete shoutbox messages was missing from v4. This has been now fixed. Please let us know if you are still having difficulties editing the shoutbox messages.
Ohhh thank you thank you thank you!
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LOLOLOLOLMFAO!!!!!! Case in point!!! That one could be controlled. An unverified user with the same post could simply reload the page and post it again.



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Originally posted by Ketola:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
A Report sign beside the Reply sign is a good idea like many Video Chat Web-sites; where members help the Moderator to ID the offender fast and take action or maybe not.
Actually there already is a report button - it's at the top right corner of each message. Maybe it's not the most obvious placement - perhaps a link next to the reply button would be better?
Ok....Is nice to know that the sign ! is for report post....It seems ok, but many (all around the world members) do not know what it is for and so many not even use it.

A more bigger sign that read Report or even the ! sign after the Reply sign to the right is the best spot for it., could help you guys a lot on this issue. and also to make things more simple when the pop-up window open we should have options to choose from to make everything more fast and accurate for you to act in stead of read others people explanations.

I would like to add.
Most of the members do not post all the time. But they read others people comments. It will be very nice if we have a Rate this comments sign with arrows or thumbs signs up or down to choose from. With a ( + # or - # of people rating). A 5 Star Comment rate sign.
With out people posting we can choose sides, and you and us can see the traffic and make the comment more interactive.

Example: ....and scroll down to comments:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/18/...ns-in-europe%2F


I am not try to be picky just ideas I see on others Web-sites.

Hope this help.

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20. April 2010 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And so it begins here.

I knew it was just a matter of time when someone of immense diminished mental capacity and outstanding immaturity would bring fanboy posts/rants to a whole new low with this uncontrollable/anonymous posting. This is a prime example of why aD was different than almost EVERY other site out there ~ the minimal issues of fanboy posting and the way we dealt/kept it at bay.

Now after all that hard work it's starting to slip away....

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20. April 2010 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Oner:
And so it begins here.

I knew it was just a matter of time when someone of immense diminished mental capacity and outstanding immaturity would bring fanboy posts/rants to a whole new low with this uncontrollable/anonymous posting. This is a prime example of why aD was different than almost EVERY other site out there ~ the minimal issues of fanboy posting and the way we dealt/kept it at bay.

Now after all that hard work it's starting to slip away....
Just make creaky a admin he will chew them up and spite them out. ^_~

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Naw, it wouldn't be my cup of tea anyway. The place certainly is a bit quieter than usual lately, i only seem to have to get rid of spammers, most of the forums i frequent seem to be on siesta at the mo so doing my rounds doesn't take too long.



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Originally posted by creaky:
Naw, it wouldn't be my cup of tea anyway. The place certainly is a bit quieter than usual lately, i only seem to have to get rid of spammers, most of the forums i frequent seem to be on siesta at the mo so doing my rounds doesn't take too long.
Even a forum god gets board with throwing lighting bolts all day long. Enjoy your rest good sir. ^_~

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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i deleted that post.
 
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