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IsoHunt ordered to take down torrents, site likely to close
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 1 April, 2010
Update: We have been contacted by Ira P. Rothken: "I am the lawyer for Isohunt in their litigation against the Major Movie Studios. There is no injunction in the Isohunt case. The parties are still briefing what an injunction, if any, will look like."
In a decision that will likely take down the giant torrent indexer, a judge has ordered IsoHunt to remove all torrents linking to infringing content.
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15. April 2010 @ 17:08 |
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Yes, it's all fun and games till someone gets hurt...
Steven Weinberg, Nobel Laureate: "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion."
EDIT: I re-edited the rest out because I went further off-topic.
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15. April 2010 @ 17:19 |
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lets stay on topic please.
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Thanks ddp, I would hate to have to destroy Jemborgs argument with the simple fact that Jefferson held religious services in the Capitol and according to his own papers at Monticello, clearly state he was an avowed christian. and helped write the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence based on Christian Values, the same things we now say are the law of the land.
So If jemborg wants to be destroyed in this, please allow him to star a thread, just not let it continue here.
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Hahah, you are a classic DaCount.
Still, fair enough mod. I'll re-edit that post.
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Originally posted by DaCount:
Bluedog, you are completely hopeless and without a clue. You claim that no one has been arrested for illegal downloading? REALLY Bluedog? Then care to explain that to the people who were arrested and charged with illegal downloading...ARRESTED BY INTERPOL!! With more arrests to come from many different countries who had citizens who were members?? You remember the name...the site was called OINK
http://www.nme.com/news/tabloid-hell/31992
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9067/oink_t...sers_continues/
"OiNK was best known for its pre-release albums, with more than 60 major album releases having been leaked on OiNK so far this year. According to the IFP, this made it the primary source worldwide for illegal pre-release music."
First
Again DaCount, you idiot, I quote article
Interpol help leads to arrest
Cleveland police worked with Interpol in the raid
coordinated by Interpol
British police arrested
So moron, Interpol did not make any arrests, did not shut down anything as clearly stated, that was done by local law enforcement officer with the help of Interpol. Read you own links before quoting idiot.
Originally posted by DaCount:
Whoops Bluedog, this says that you are NOT being truthful in your claims...and in fact it clearly states you have no idea what the heck your talking about. In police circles an according to law (check with your local department if you want to be embarrassed even more then you are now) The officer that started the investigation is classified as the "arresting officer" and is the one that must make the arrest! And if you will read the two articles, you will see that servers were shut down and people were arrested in both the US and Amsterdam, yet the people who filed the complaint were in England. Now since English police do not and cannot make arrests outside of their country, the only other people who DO have the authority to make arrests in any country that has signed onto the agreement is ...hmmmm Can it be INTERPOL?? Check with the Amsterdam Police department and you will find much to your shock and a much needed reality wake up call, that the police that made the arrest in both Amsterdam and Middleburry Ohio in the US were none other then agents from INTERPOL at the behest of British copyright holders. Just as I have been trying to tell you that they could and you just refused to listen, sort of like the boy who cried wolf. Only in this case you are the boy crying wolf..
Again read above, local law enforcement officers done the job stupid it staes it clearly.
Originally posted by DaCount:
You may now remove your foot from your mouth and please dont make yourself look any more foolish by trying to spin this or claim it didnt happen as the links clearly show it did.
No need I was correct I believe it is you that needs to remove ones foot as you keep helping me prove my point thank you. Links did clearly show that, again for the slow to learn, local law enforcement officers done the raid and arrests using information supplied by Interpol. Let me say that again a little slower for you. Oh yeah and for your information
No where in those articles does it stae that Interpol has arrested anyone you moron. Man people like you need to turn off your computer and take it to the tip. You come in spruking unfounded rubbish and when you do try to provide proof for your argument you actually supply information that supports the other person........ you idiot.
Interpol did not arrest anyone, local law enforcement officers did using information supplied by Interpol.
Man gain some intelligence and read your sources ffs before you post again.
Seriously mate, you are probably a really nice guy and it is possible that we could get along in real life but seriously mate quit while the embarresment is yet to hit. You are not helping your own argument.
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Originally posted by bluedogs:
Seriously mate, you are probably a really nice guy and it is possible that we could get along in real life but seriously mate quit while the embarrassment is yet to hit. You are not helping your own argument.
Dunno Blue, judging by the last statement to me... I'd say that he was immune to evidence... or self-reflection/embarrassment.
His insistence in the face of logic (and even his own quotes) in a "UN World Police" type scenario and his baiting willingness to jump into a god-bothering argument with me suggest a few clues as to his mindset.
I'm gonna miss Isohunt. Anybody got any clues as to why it didn't appear in places like Torrenz.
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Supernova is running again believe it or not
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16. April 2010 @ 22:28 |
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Give it up Bluedog and Jemborg, neither of you have any iota of what your talking about and both of you have been proven to be posting only so you can read your words. The facts are the facts and no matter if you like em or not, that does not change a darn thing. Oh and you two? Please take a look at the Interpol site...THEY call themselves the world police, not me. You two would have known that if you had actually done something foreign to you instead of shoving your foot in your mouths yet again, and that is actually LOOK at the website listed before talking about it.
So on second thought, keep posting. both of you are showing how little you actually know with every post. So if you wish to continue to make yourselves look even more foolish then you already have, please continue posting. And pretty soon no one will believe you if you say the sky is blue on a sunny day, as to make sure they will go outside and look.
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Originally posted by bluedogs:
Supernova is running again believe it or not
Cheers :D
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16. April 2010 @ 22:57 |
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Ur welcome
I did read and stand by my words, did you read it? obviously not
Please show me where it states that Interpol can walk into any house and detain the residents for any set period without the approval of that countries expressed permission and without reason.
Yes THEY call themselves the World Police... whats ya point.
From their website
INTERPOL is the world?s largest international police organization, with 188 member countries. Created in 1923, it facilitates cross-border police co-operation, and supports and assists all organizations, authorities and services whose mission is to prevent or combat international crime.
Notice "supports and assists all organizations, authorities and services whose mission is to prevent or combat international crime."
INTERPOL aims to facilitate international police co-operation even where diplomatic relations do not exist between particular countries. Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. INTERPOL?s constitution prohibits ?any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character.?
Notice this "Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries"
Even notice this "INTERPOL?s constitution prohibits ?any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character.?
Now maybe this country might be a little backward but our political structure creates the majority of our laws, therefore it is against the Interpol Constitution prohibits them from any intervention.
And "The NCB is the designated contact point for the General Secretariat, regional offices and other member countries requiring assistance with overseas investigations and the location and apprehension of fugitives. "
Notice "requiring assistance"
Now what you are saying maybe correct for your country and others it is not the case here.
Lastly
Criminal intelligence analysis is recognized by the law enforcement community as a valuable tool, helping to provide timely warning of threats and operational police activities. INTERPOL contributes to investigations by assisting officers working at the General Secretariat and in member countries with research and analysis on crime trends and with training courses in criminal analysis techniques.
BITE ME
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17. April 2010 @ 06:47 |
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Re this tit for tat debate on Interpol, all i have to offer is this ~ http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinio...3-80291137.html
There's a Whitehouse website detailing many other Executive Orders that Obama (and previous Presidents) sign (far too frequently, Exec Orders are supposed to be used sparingly) but i will leave it there, we don't do Politics at Afterdawn, suffice it to say that the Interpol Exec Order makes for interesting reading.
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That's interesting Creaky.
I see that was started by Ronnie Reagan who also wrote... "This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action."
Why did Ronnie start that ball rolling do you think?
This still does not apply to my country. So no UN conspiracy here anyway.
@ Bluedogs... Demonoid is up again too.
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Sweet Demonoid is back, been waiting for that. Don't forget newtorrents.info
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Originally posted by bluedogs:
Sweet Demonoid is back, been waiting for that. Don't forget newtorrents.info
Nice one. Thanks again mate.
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How Typical of Bluedog to use a childish taunt when he was proven wrong. Instead of placing words in my mouth and making claims that I never made, he should have read the links to the website I gave him and if so he would have seen that this was a copy and paste directly from the sites so that any claims made that he did not agree with came from the sites themselves. Thus showing that instead of talking about what the people can do, he runs this into the conspiracy sections of reality of saying they cannot and not proving it. Bluedog also states that Intepol cannot arrest someone. Really? Then please explain just how Timothy Geoffrey Lee was arrested by Interpol Agents and Indonesian police on January 11, 2010 when Lee's only criminal activity had been in Australia and not in Indonesia according to Indonesian Authorities? In short Bluedog, the man had broken NO Indonesian laws what-so-ever, and yet he was arrested for a crime he committed in Australia by Indonesian police and Interpol Agents. And especially since Indonesia has no extradition agreement with Australia, yet the Indonesian authorities are working to give Mr.Lee to Interpol agents to return him back to Australia for prosecution. http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns_asi...1117800572.html Yet even more proof that Bluedog knows nothing about this subject and is only posting to see his words in print.
As for you Jemborg...your ignorance about the US is clearly evident. So Mr.Expert...care to explain where exactly you received the quotes you misused from the founding fathers? Or seem to forget that the Separation of Church and State does not legally exist as there is no place in the Constitution where that phrase is ever used? Or the simple fact that the Constitution was ratified in May of 1787 and the very FIRST mention of this myth was in a letter to the baptist leaders from Jefferson in 1802...a full 15 years later! And care to mention exactly WHAT Congress brought this up for a vote and then sent it out to the states for ratification as is the ONLY way to get the Constitution amended as per the Constitution itself? Over 20,000 have been tried and less then 30 have been approved. Or that there were only two Deists and one Atheist in the whole group that signed the Dec of Independence? The rest were made up of Christians and Baptists and this is documented? Or the ending of the Constitution clearly saying "In the Year of our Lord" which was a Christian Religious greeting and salutation? The only one here that is a "classic" Jemborg is you and your obvious lack of an education. So please start another thread dealing with this subject and I will destroy you so completely on it that the only thing left will be the bitter taste in your mouth left over from your ashes.
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Originally posted by DaCount:
How Typical of Bluedog to use a childish taunt when he was proven wrong. Instead of placing words in my mouth and making claims that I never made, he should have read the links to the website I gave him and if so he would have seen that this was a copy and paste directly from the sites so that any claims made that he did not agree with came from the sites themselves. Thus showing that instead of talking about what the people can do, he runs this into the conspiracy sections of reality of saying they cannot and not proving it. Bluedog also states that Intepol cannot arrest someone. Really? Then please explain just how Timothy Geoffrey Lee was arrested by Interpol Agents and Indonesian police on January 11, 2010 when Lee's only criminal activity had been in Australia and not in Indonesia according to Indonesian Authorities? In short Bluedog, the man had broken NO Indonesian laws what-so-ever, and yet he was arrested for a crime he committed in Australia by Indonesian police and Interpol Agents. And especially since Indonesia has no extradition agreement with Australia, yet the Indonesian authorities are working to give Mr.Lee to Interpol agents to return him back to Australia for prosecution. http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns_asi...1117800572.html Yet even more proof that Bluedog knows nothing about this subject and is only posting to see his words in print.
As for you Jemborg...your ignorance about the US is clearly evident. So Mr.Expert...care to explain where exactly you received the quotes you misused from the founding fathers? Or seem to forget that the Separation of Church and State does not legally exist as there is no place in the Constitution where that phrase is ever used? Or the simple fact that the Constitution was ratified in May of 1787 and the very FIRST mention of this myth was in a letter to the baptist leaders from Jefferson in 1802...a full 15 years later! And care to mention exactly WHAT Congress brought this up for a vote and then sent it out to the states for ratification as is the ONLY way to get the Constitution amended as per the Constitution itself? Over 20,000 have been tried and less then 30 have been approved. Or that there were only two Deists and one Atheist in the whole group that signed the Dec of Independence? The rest were made up of Christians and Baptists and this is documented? Or the ending of the Constitution clearly saying "In the Year of our Lord" which was a Christian Religious greeting and salutation? The only one here that is a "classic" Jemborg is you and your obvious lack of an education. So please start another thread dealing with this subject and I will destroy you so completely on it that the only thing left will be the bitter taste in your mouth left over from your ashes.
Its called pandering since athieries are a large voting block also FYI the founding fathers were deists or as we call them today agnostic, FYI you can go to church and be an active member and still be agnostic, since church in those days where not only a social club but the hub of a community.
The founding fathers new of the evils of the church when they are allowed to much power over a region so they sought to divest the church from government but more importantly they did not want government enforcing religion upon the populace.
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You can't argue with a sick mind Zip... nice try tho.
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
You can't argue with a sick mind Zip... nice try tho.
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I am a sick mind dear *lick lick lick*
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@Zippy
Eeewww... :D
Don't I know it. re:Xpadder
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Cheers.
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Originally posted by Daniel_1:
Why are you crying? ANY country can be investigated as long as they are signed members of Interpol. The faster you get used to that idea the better off you will be. As such it makes no difference where you are, if your country is signed onto Interpol, they can make you rewrite your laws and prosecute you for downloading as well. Oh and BTW, to the arsehole who used the term "Amerika" get over yourself n00b, Interpol is a EUROPEAN idea...not American. Stupid moron!
Interpol is the UK's version of the FBI.
And Interpol or the FBI wouldn't be allowed to case anyone outside their countries boarders unless they have asked a court order to do so.
Otherwise you'd have FBI casing people in the UK or Europe or other countries and it doesn't work like that, because the FBI wouldn't be working within any US laws while in the UK.
They can goto the UK and would have to work with UK police before they could do anything in terms of casing someone.
Because what your saying is that the Australian Federal Police could goto the USA case you and everything would be perfectly fine because Australia would be signed up to Interpol, and I'm sure the FBI would be happy to let that happen with-in the USA.
The Israeli police that killed that terrorist or narzi party member show just how wrong you are, as the Australian government isn't happy about them using fake Australian passports to get into Dubai, they would be signed up Interpol countries.
No country can force another country to change it's laws just because they are signed up to Interpol, it's a UK police force not a political policy.
Normally laws get changed if 2 countries are trying to do a free trade agreement.
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I said they can not do it here in Australia, I didn't say Amerika (notice the pun toward Danial_1) ;)
I did read them and again it does not state that Interpol made the arrest it said it aided in the arrest. Show me where it states Interpol Police made the arrests!
Interpol did not make the arrest. Indonesian Police made the arrest with the assistance of Interpol and AFP Also this was to do with drugs that he had in his possesion while in Australia so there was an arrest warrant for him. Yes there may not be an agreement for extradition between us but any country can agree to an extrodition even if one does not exist. The Indonesian Police decided of their own accord (diplomacy and in the interest of its national security) to help but they could have refused. I quote from your link
[Sustina, Bali Police Chief]:
"The suspect, in Australia, was in possession of prohibited drugs. In cooperation with the Australian Federal Police, they have requested in November 2009 that we [b]help to complete the investigation and arrest the suspect[/b]. We did an investigation, and proved that the suspect was in Bali and arrested him."
Notice we investigated, found him and arrested him..... not Interpol or AFP arrested him... Indonesian police arrested him.
Explain Christopher Skase then! you can't can you, because you have no idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Skase
Dude seriously give me a link backing the Daniel_1 and your posts that supports these statements
Daniel_1 As such it makes no difference where you are, if your country is signed onto Interpol, they can make you rewrite your laws
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as well as change the laws of the country to comply with international agreements.
Your own statement
Interpol can walk up to your door and place you under arrest and hold you for between 24 hours to 5 days before having to release you.
The links clearly need to show that they are correct and that Interpol can act independantly of local law enforcement officers here in Australia.
I have read your links several times and none state that Interpol has made the arrest,
British police - yes,
Indonesian police - yes,
Netherlands police - yes...... but
NONE state that Interpol made the arrests.
You just don't get it do you.
The World does not revolve around the US laws mate. Each country has it's own laws and are created by that coutries parliment or whatever does it, here in Australia it's the Government.
Again give me links that prove that basically Interpol has free reign in Australia to create, amend and enforce any laws that it sees fit. Please for the love of all that is holy do it because at the moment all you keep giving are links to is irrelivent material that either
a) Supports what I am saying or
b) Has nothing to do with Australia
If you can do that then please while you are at it then explain why Interpol could not touch Christopher Skase because there are thousands of people here who would love to know why because they lost everything because of him and in many cases people commited suicide because of him. They chased him for 10 years and got nothing, WHERE WAS INTERPOL THEN you mental
Until then shut up, you have no idea, you have no counterpoint to my statement, you keep giving me evidence thats supports me and say "here I told you you were wrong." Tip, to prove a person wrong the evidence must show contrary to theirs, hence wrong, yours shows I am right. I hope for the sake of America that you are not into politics or law because if you are I pitty the USA.
Oh yeah btw
Australia's involvement in Interpol
http://www.uplink.com.au/lawlibrary/Documents/Docs/Doc54.html
Australian Federal Police
http://www.afp.gov.au/about/publications...9/internat.html
Interpol
http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp
Interpol in the US (which clearly states "Interpol has no police force that conducts investigations and makes arrests"
http://obtainingforeignevidence.blogspot...t-is-legal.html but hey thats the USA who cares, I am talking Australia, right.
Interpol alert
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/na...r-1225851519329 notice they request
Interpol seeks waiver of Australian visa for its cops (pay attention to paragraph 3)
http://www.visabureau.com/australia/news...r-its-cops.aspx in case you missed it. Interpol Secretary-General Ronald K. Noble "We don't come to a country unless we are asked to go. If we are asked to go in an emergency, you want us to go as fast as possible," he said
Again for the slow to learn, as stated by the Interpol Secretary-General (basically the head of Interpol http://www.interpol.int/Public/icpo/governance/sg/default.asp)
"We don't come to a country unless we are asked to go."
So there is just some info I raked up in 5 or 10 minutes and didn't look really hard.
Go change ya nappy, go to bed and leave running the world to professionals and leave quoting facts to grown ups because clearly you are unable to do so.
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didn't i say some of that further up the thread?
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Yes ddp, you did and so has many others but clearly some individuals do not listen nor understand nor read post properly when posting. Some even link facts against their own claims and believe it supports their own. The people are commonly refered to as morons. I prefer not to start name calling unless the person is being a moron then I will call it as I see it. This guy, DaCount, in this case is an idiot/moron. At least Daniel_1 learnt to shut his trap.
DaCount for some reason believes that whatever Daniel_1 states is gospel because clearly he can not hold any valid argument with any kind of valid or vague truth.
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Sorry Bluedog, yet again you are making my case, I have clearly stated that the countries must have signed the Interpol agreement. SO thank you for proving what I said was correct and what you said was incorrect.
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Originally posted by DaCount:
Sorry Bluedog, yet again you are making my case, I have clearly stated that the countries must have signed the Interpol agreement. SO thank you for proving what I said was correct and what you said was incorrect.
Must have signed the Interpol agreement... for what?
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