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kingpin34
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15. October 2006 @ 10:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow just started playing Splinter Cell Double Agent in hi-def and it is amazing..graphics,sound and playability but is frigging hard,dead 5 times in first level..try it u know you want to 10/10
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15. October 2006 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Harder than GRAW? That may be too hard for my tastes.
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16. October 2006 @ 02:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how come you have splinter cell double agent on ur gamer tag
its not out tell oct 17 right?!


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16. October 2006 @ 04:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It was leaked yesterday
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16. October 2006 @ 04:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Download

"If it wasn't for the last minute nothing would get done"
kingpin34
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16. October 2006 @ 05:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well.a mate called and said he had a working copy of Splinter Cell so i have played it..but i am going to buy the Limited Edition Tin Set out in November to go with my other Tin versions releases.if i like a game that much i always buy the original..and i love the splinter cell series..and yes SC4 is far harder than GRAW and ave launched Pad into space a few times playing it..but it is one you cant put down
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16. October 2006 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just seen the BB ad with the limited tin on sale this Tuesday for $70 US. Now... I really enjoy video games just like everyone else, but come on, $70... it's just a game.
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16. October 2006 @ 11:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ah well im from the uk and it costs £39 which i suppose isnt to far off the currency exchange rate so its about the same,but all games retail here at around £39 depends where you go.but you this is where game companies still havent clinched that if their games were priced lower then there would be far less piracy but they will never learn so people will do it to save the dosh.
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16. October 2006 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't agree.

Would you buy a game at £10 if you could still download it for free?



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16. October 2006 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I disagree, even though I do download games. Oftenly I end up buying the original when they've become cheaper. Be it platinum/classic version whatever.

I personally don't like those special limited tin boxes.
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16. October 2006 @ 11:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's what I do. I don't really care what you call it, be it piracy or whatever. I get EVERY game in a particular region. For me (NTSC/US). I want to have every single game made for that system. I play them all to test them, print out the DVD Cover and store it. I don't try to sell them. They are my own personal "backup" collection. I then go out and buy every game that I truely enjoyed or played often.


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16. October 2006 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You like downloading!

I think that is fair in what you do, however, MS or any other corporation would easily class it as piracy. If everyone was like you then I dont think it would be as bad as it is.

I also see it like this, if you were to download a game, try it out and didn't like it, well thats nothing lost apart from small change. However if you went and paid £40 for a game which turned out to be shit you would be very annoyed. You would't get a refund, the best chance you'd have is probably sell it on eBay, either that or trade it in for a lot less than you paid for it.

"If it wasn't for the last minute nothing would get done"
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16. October 2006 @ 19:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lets not kid ourselves here. Downloading games, firmware flashing, newsgroups, torrents.....

its all piracy and theft, you know it, i know it everyone knows it. The only difference between this unspoken 'moderate' theft and real life pinching from somewhere/someone, is that on the internet we PROBABLY wont be caught. Thats the only reason we do it. We sit in our nice comfy chairs with our TV and our hi-fi and we steal countless thousands of pounds of software without even getting up, with almost no chance of reprisal.

Humans are not moral creatures, we are mostly cunning, dishonest and self serving. If we wont get caught commiting 'piracy' then we will do it as if there is nothing wrong with it. So much as steal a pack of gum from a shop however and the wrath comes down "omg he's a thief! disgusting! People these days! No respect!......So wheres that album you downloaded?"

Its a fubar'd world we live in ladies and gents.

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17. October 2006 @ 05:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ain't that the truth!
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17. October 2006 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The thing is MOST people just don't see downloading the same as walking into a store stealing something physically. 10 years ago no one was downloading stuff that they'd normally pay good money for. So it's still a new concept for everyone. You tell someone you downloaded a game, movie or whatever and unless they are in an intellectual property industry or possibly law enforcement, they probably would think it was pretty cool.

The best way to combat piracy IMO is to teach children it's morally wrong. So they won't do it when they get older. Nearly everyone breaks the law everyday anyway. Last time I was on the highway it seemed everyone was speeding. That's still illegal right?

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17. October 2006 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah i agree with the above. You see its all about PERSPECTIVE, how a crime is viewed in the eyes of someone you know, and/or the general public.

2 crimes that i came into contact with at university (one sadly on my own record)

1) (Me) BURGLARY - 3 counts, aggravated theft.

2) (A guy i knew) Drink Drive offence (DUI for u yanks) - 1 count + 1 count of dangerous driving + 1 count of injuring a pedestrian.


Now, you tell someone you have a criminal record for burglary and they check their pockets and immediately distrust you.

You tell someone you got done for drink driving, they laugh, slap you on the back and buy you a pint, moan about how the fuzz are out to get us all.

Big difference. But going back to my example what was the truth behind the incidents?

The first, my transgretion, was simply that on a couple of occasions me and some mates would stumble round a building that was being renovated having a laugh and spooking each other, usually waking up in a nearby hedge hugging a cone or lump of scaffolding. Unfortunately on one occasion i fell asleep IN the building and was apprehended by workers the next day, had a few tools in my pockets and they were looking to land blame somewhere, i didnt give any names so i got done, simple.

The second case, the guy mounted a curb (sidewalk) drunk at night and hit a young girl. The girl was left permanently disabled (not wheelchair bound but her leg was shattered completely)


Both these crimes got the same sentence, but the PERCEPTION of the two is so very different.

Anyway gone way off topic here now. Splinter Cell wasnt it? lol

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17. October 2006 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It started way before 10 years ago. On BBS's, you could play what we called "door games". These simple games were usually text based adventures, ect... There were warez bbs's back then that let you directly share files. Alot of the common warez back then were key generators for these door games. Check out sunrisedoors.com and see that they STILL sell these games for people running telnet bbs's today. A key gen for these games cost this one individual who made these games lots of money.

I think people now-a-days don't care if they cost a company a few million while that same company profits 50 million. It's like the mentality is "I'll never have 50 million so what's 1 or 2 million to you"

Screwed up in my eyes but then again, if we made more and the gov't wasn't taxing the hell out of us, we could afford to buy what we want to play. Too bad having a wife and kids doesn't leave me with much money and it damn sure doesn't leave me with the time to enjoy the games I "stole".


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17. October 2006 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, maybe I should have put it EXTREMELY few people were downloading things they'd pay good money for and what was available for down was just as limit. Honestly, was anyone concerned with a few nerds getting some text based game off telnet? No offense, but that is the demographic who was doing that stuff it. Downloading SO much more wide spread these day. On side note years since since I've read the word telnet.
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17. October 2006 @ 07:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, I should have put EXTREMELY few people were downloading things they'd pay good money for and what was available for down was just as limit and honestly, was anyone concerned with a few hardcore nerds getting some text based game off telnet? No offense, but that is the demographic who was doing that stuff it. Downloading is SO much more wide spread these days. People also dumped NES and Genesis games onto floppy discs too during their heydays, but the numbers were so small they're barely worth mentioning. On side note, it been years since since I've read the word telnet.

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17. October 2006 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if you guyz playing backup games wont u get banned on xbox live?




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17. October 2006 @ 10:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah it's been an extremely long time. And believe it or not, alot of warez back then were computer related.Not just BBS door games but stuff to deal with OS/2, Windows programs, Windows itself.. It wasn't as widespread but that's because everyone had access only to the local call-in bbs's. I remember 110 baud modems. I've been with the PC thing since it basically started.


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