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Tranferring VHS to Dvd
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chewbkka
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14. November 2006 @ 15:17 |
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I have many Vhs tapes and would like to trnsfer them to DvD. what is the easiest and simpliest way to do it. Do I need to buy a dvd r recorder or what. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
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gfoyle
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16. November 2006 @ 04:22 |
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I'm trying to do the same thing. I just purchased a Magnavox mwr20v6 at Walmart for a great price of $148. I've had no problem copying old home movies I've made and some old copies of animes I rented. But the newer VHS tapes I've made of DVD's I've rented or borrowed won't transfer due to the copyright protection. I'm hoping to find a way to alleviate this problem, and there seem to be some posts listed here on what you would need to buy (hopefully not very expensive). So if all you want to do is burn some old movies or home movies, I'd suggest buying a dvd/vhs/dvdburner combo, but if you have to bypass copyright protection, you may need something more complicated.
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Auslander
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16. November 2006 @ 04:45 |
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most around here, myself included, recommend putting a quality tv tuner card in your computer and hooking a VCR up to it. you record the files to your computer at a variety of quality settings, edit the footage, make menus, etc, and then burn to dvd. very easy and gives you a lot of control over the end product.
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chewbkka
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16. November 2006 @ 11:25 |
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how do you go about with a tv tuner card. And where do you buy one? Thanks for the help any other suggestions with the tv tuner card.
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Auslander
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16. November 2006 @ 12:05 |
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anyplace, from Best Buy to newegg.com, that sells computer parts typically sells tv tuner cards. i recommend Hauppage PCI cards, or if you want to improve you gaming and use a tuner card, you can get an ATI All-In-Wonder to go in an AGP slot.
once you install the physical hardware and run the wires to your sound card, etc, you install the drivers/software from the disc that comes with your card and go. typically, there's a variety of connections--all the common ones at least.
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gfoyle
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16. November 2006 @ 12:24 |
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Is there anyway to clean VHS tape copyright protection from your old movies so you can copy them to DVD using the DVD burner in the the basic VHS/DVD burner combo, or do you have to go the computer route?
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Auslander
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16. November 2006 @ 12:27 |
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there are little devices out there that will go on the connection between a vcr and a standalone burner, but these require two separate units; one combo machine alone won't cut it. this limits you to one-to-one copies that you'll have to re-rip later to edit as well as limiting your quality. i've never seen it as truly effective to go that route.
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chewbkka
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16. November 2006 @ 13:10 |
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I am not a gamer but just want to get the vhs on dvd. tigerdirect has one for 20 bucks. looks pretty simple to install. you said something about wires to the sound card.???
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gfoyle
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16. November 2006 @ 17:23 |
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Thanks for the info. Can I pick up the device at any electronics store? I'm only having a problem with 2 tapes that my daughter wants to take with her to college, so I don't mind hooking up another VCR to the burner and ripping the copy if it's not a very expensive piece of equipment I need to buy for the copyright removal.
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Auslander
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16. November 2006 @ 17:38 |
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chewbkka: i wouldn't go for anything that cheap, personally. as for the wire, you have to typically run a cable from a sound out port on the card to an input on your sound card.
gfoyle: google for macrovision defeating devices. you'll find lots of selection. there's also some on various threads on the forums here, i believe.
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chewbkka
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17. November 2006 @ 11:37 |
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I maybe be up to speed on this but what does macrovision have to do with a tv tuner card. With eveything I reading the tv tuner is the best bet and the simplest way to go.
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Auslander
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17. November 2006 @ 17:57 |
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macrovision is the old copy protection on vhs tapes. if you're having problems with copying tapes, it's most likely due to macrovision. there are devices out there that elimate the protection from the signal being sent to your tuner so that you have a clean picture to work with.
i never bothered to pick up such a devise as the only conversions from vhs to dvd that i do are movies that i make with my friends.
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chewbkka
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18. November 2006 @ 15:32 |
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Thanks for the info. I am considering buying a Sabrent Sbt-tvfm tv tuner card for the pc along with a new hard drive from western digital from shop4tech.com. What do you think of this tv tuner? How long does it take for the process of vhs tape to dvd take? and how many vhs tapes to a dvd can one hold?
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gerry1
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19. November 2006 @ 08:33 |
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A company called "Sima" made some really good macrovision defeating devices for cheap. I still use an oldie called "Video CopyMaster" Model SED-CM. Works like a charm! Quite a while ago, it cost about 65.00 new but you see them on emay all the time. You connect audio normally from source to DVD or VHS recorder and you run the video from the source to the Copy Master, does its thing in there and then you connect the CopyMaster to the DVD or VHS recorder. Works like a charm. I've coped encoded DVDs and VHSs both and copied them to both DVD and VHS. What I've never understood is how, when copying a protected DVD unto a VHS tape, the quality was almost as good as the DVD and far better than any new VHS straight from the studio. Makes no sense but there it is. Here is the Sima link:
http://www.simaproducts.com/
@Wolfboy...will be sending a PM when I get home this evening. I've a favor to ask.
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Auslander
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19. November 2006 @ 10:44 |
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i don't know anything about the Sabrent cards as i've never used them. i recommend ATI A-I-W cards and Hauppage (sp?) pci cards.
ger, better get to it! i'll be out with the family tonight, as i'm home for part of the thanksgiving break and hit the road Tuesday to drive to PA and see the lady friend ^.~
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chewbkka
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19. November 2006 @ 14:56 |
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thanks for the advice. have a nice thanksgiving. let you know on the sabrent. worse possible secenario I will lose thirty bucks
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Chroma45
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25. November 2006 @ 16:59 |
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If you are going for ease of use then using a DVD Recorder is much easier than a TV capture card. Unless you plan on editing or making custom menus than a TV Capture card is just adding unnecessary steps.
For removing Macrovision copyright protection Sima products are supposed to be good as gerry1 pointed out. The best, but most expensive, is to get a full frame TBC such as the Datavideo TBC-1000. This completely stabilizes the signal and you can get most of your money back on EBay when you are done using it.
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Tailspin
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4. December 2006 @ 21:31 |
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I'm wondering about a dvd recorder also.
I use an ASUS 9600XT with video in and video out. It doesn't say AIW. I'm not quite sure if it's the same as an ATI AIW card, is it?
The capture software that came with it is....
WDM Capture Driver
ASUS Digital VCR
(No Multimedia Center Software included)
Is digital VCR the same (or similar) as Multimedia Center Software? I've never used MCS or seen it used.
When I capture (vcr home movies) using Digital VCR I'm not very happy with the results, bad quality but liveable. It's better than nothing. I capture the sound with my sound card (microphone in) and have never had any out of sync problems, that's good.
I've been thinking about getting a stand alone dvd recorder or a dvd recorder\vcr combo. Wouldn't it be easier to just burn the vcr material to a DVD-RW and then play it in the computer? Copy it and then edit it.
To make my home DVD movies normally I .... edit with Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 .... then use TMPGEnc XPress .... then TMPGEnc DVD Author. I use VirtualDub for compression If I need to. Sometimes DVD Shrink.
But my question is, wouldn't a stand alone dvd recorder work as good as an AIW card? The objective is to capture with the least amount of loss. Then put that dvd in computer and edit....thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
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chewbkka
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5. December 2006 @ 04:15 |
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Recently I boughta usb 2.0 tv tuner/video capture box and tried it out this weekend. well the instructions are bad and doesn't explain enough. then when you program it you have to go to help menu alot for things to explain to you. you have to use your own cables for the vcr or camcorder. but when you play on the camcorder the picture is black and white and no sound. they don't help you. it was a fiasco but finally I Transfer it to the cpu but had problems with Nero Express 2 and winAVI to get it to dvd. finally I use DVD Shrink and decrypt to burn it but I was smart and use a DVD RW so I can erase everything. It is a hassle and has to be a better way. How do use a camcorder tape on DVD recorder?
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geross
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5. December 2006 @ 06:25 |
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Hi, I'm a very new, "newbie". I too am looking for something to capture my vhs to dvd. A techie where I worked recommended ATI All in wonder. When I went to buy it, I saw some reviews that were not at all impressive. Many said that the quality was not that good. I want to be able to edit the family movies and possibly put in some pictures too. I had also thought that I could copy some of my old vhs movies. Do you recommend the all in wonder, or something else? I appreciate any help I can get. Thanks in advance!
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5. December 2006 @ 06:36 |
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@Tailspin
I use Tsunami DVD Author Pro
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/...r_pro_guide.cfm
Copy vhs tapes to a Panasonic recorder and import the files into the authoring prog.
Either record to DVD-RW or DVD-RAM disks.
If the tape is a commercial movie it may have Macrovision protection.
I run those tapes through an ancient Optex 'video stabilizer' to fix that problem.
The DVD-RW has to be finalized in the recorder to make it useable in any other PC or player.
If you use DVD-RAM disks, the video is in a large file which has .VRO as an extension.
If your PC's player or rom has the capability to read ram disks, you can copy and paste the .vro file to your hard disk and rename .mpg and use it as you would any mpeg file.
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Tailspin
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5. December 2006 @ 06:52 |
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@attar
So, it looks like you have no problem copying vcr tape (home camcorder video) to a standalone dvd recorder. Then placing it into the computer for editing. Can I assume there would be negligible quality loss and worth capturing vcr tapes this way? I also noticed you mentioned a Panasonic recorder.
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geross
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5. December 2006 @ 08:03 |
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so, if I got the Tsunami DVD Author Pro would I need anything else or does it come with the set up? Also are you saying to first use the vcr/dvd recorder to record first and then hook it up to the computer?
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5. December 2006 @ 09:15 |
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@Tailspin
The quality of the disk is the same as the quality coming off the tape.
If it's a good tape you get a good disk.If it's a ratty tape......
Best quality is when your tape is two hours or less.
More than two hours means compressing the data onto the dvd.I believe that six hours is mentioned as possible on my Panasonic, but I have never tried it.
I referred to DVD Author PRO because it accepts the files from a RAM disk without problems, but note that your PC burner or rom must be able to handle ram disks.
I did all of my transposing from tape to dvd with DVD-RW so any other authoring prog should be fine.
I found that DVD-RW disks prefer to be used in either your PC burner or the recorder.Don't erase disks in a PC and use in the recorder or vice versa else sooner, not later, they will fail.
@geross
Download DVD Author Pro and try before you buy.
I like it because of the adjustments to the audio that need to be made when converting PAL to NTSC.
P.S. I previously had a Samsung recorder that produced disks which momentarily froze (only when played on other standalone players)at the chapter points which it inserted in the DVD.
A firmware update did not help, so I returned the Samsung and purchased the Panasonic.
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Tailspin
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5. December 2006 @ 18:03 |
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@ geross
If you would like to capture your vcr tapes into the computer....you could use an All In Wonder video card, tv tuner capture card or burn it with a dvd recorder then put it in computer.
Have you ever installed a graphics card? If you have, then just install the software that came with the card and then hook up the cables to the card from the vcr. After you start sending the signal from the vcr to this capture card a vcr type display will show up on the monitor and you can record from that.
If you need to do some editing there are plenty of programs to choose from. I use one of the expensive ones Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5
When your done editing, you'll need to make it into a MPEG file. I use TMPGEnc XPress. After that, I use TMPGEnc DVD Author for making all the chapters, then an image file so that it can be burned to a dvd. Finally I use Nero 6 Ultra Edition for burning this image file to my DVD.
It can get a bit expensive though if you get the software I picked up. I use Premiere Pro a lot and have no regrets with that sofware. Many people here can help you pick out cheaper buys though.
Hope this helped, good luck with your captures.
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