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SirV
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18. November 2006 @ 11:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi
I would like to get the best possible burning software for CDR audio and wav. file archiving to DVDR media.

These are my requirements:

1) FULL text capability. Artists/Album Title/Song?etc.

2) The ability to save and repeat any and all projects either archived or currently in progress.

I am currently using Sonic Record Now which is kicking out CDR media right and left. I downloaded some of the free stuff like Burrrn & CDburnerXP (or whatever it's called) and these programs are very inadequate.

I have come to HIGHLY respect Afterdawn information and thank you in advance for your guidance & suggestions in this matter.

SirV
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18. November 2006 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
welcome to aD.

okay, so what is your ultimate goal, to archive your audio CD collection to your computer and burn those archive discs to DVD-R? Well you have a few options. first you can rip your audio CDs to wave. There is one and ONLY one program you should ever use for ripping audio CDs. this program is EAC (exact audio copy). It is free and the only ripper with 100% accurate ripping capabilities.

by ripping your CDs to wave files and storing them, you would be able to then burn the wave files back to a CDR and have you audio CD. While it is not really a true copy, it will still do the trick. However wave files do not carry any tag info (artist, album, title) in them like mp3s do. but if you are just going to burn them back to CDR then you don't really need them...just store the albums in separate labeled folders.

your other option would be to make an image of the audio CDs by using a program like clonecd or Nero to make a iso, bin/cue, nrd, or ccd image file of the audio CD. this would allow you to make an exact duplicate of the original CD.

From there just use a regular burning app like Nero to either burn your image files or wave files to a DVD-R, and store it somewhere safe.

edit 4 typo

"I have no particular talent. I am merely inquisitive" - Albert Einstein

For the best quality mp3s use EAC (exact audio copy) to rip your audio CDs and LAME to encode them. Follow this guide:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. November 2006 @ 17:35

SirV
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19. November 2006 @ 06:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by djscoop:
welcome to aD.

okay, so what is your ultimate goal, to archive your audio CD collection to your computer and burn those archive discs to DVD-R?

I appreciate your input. I also thank you for suggesting the outstanding program EAC. I would like to point out that it does not download correctly from AD. I had to get it from codec (NSOS). It's a great ripper and already learned a good deal I knew nothing about.

This is my situation. I am a vinyl archivist and whereas I have several thousand commercial CDs in my collection could really care less about making MP3s or archiving them I apologize for not being clearer as I know I failed to note my exact needs. There are times when I have needed the software you just turned me onto however, so I genuinely THANK YOU.

What I need is the ability to archive both completed masters of the vinyl wav.s I process as well as the initial rough drafts of the material I choose not to re-master.

If you are familiar with the "Burrrn" CD test program you will have a perfect idea of what I hope to achieve in part. It simply stops short of fulfilling my need to "capture & save" each project so that I am able to burn, accrue and store multiple projects on the DVDR format. Whether wav.s "carry" text or not, it would seem as though there should be a program that can envelope, save, provide a detail of that which each disc contains for future reference & burn to CDR/DVDR provided the data is on the hard drive including the respective text. I just want to be able to "save and reproduce" the text features without having to re-type everything each time I want to burn a CDR. Make sense?

Thanks,
SirV
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21. November 2006 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hear ya...it is great to meet other analog enthusiasts. I myself collect vinyl...mostly classical, but I also have jazz, classic rock, and contemporary rock. My collection is only about 300 LPs, but it always growing...

yes the need for backing up these precious records is ever so great. If the process your using now works then great. But keep in mind that the line-in quality of computer sound cards is only so-so. I have the luxury of being an audio nerd, and for the past several years I have taught audio production at a local college in LA. The program I use is called Pro Tools, which is the industry standard for the film/tv and music industry. While it is overkill for the average audio guy to just capture records to vinyl, since I have it, might as well use it.

What type of records do you have...anything valuable? The only records I have close to collectable is Pink Floyd's DSOTM (I have two copies...one beat up one that I play, and another unopened one), Guns N Roses Appetite for Destruction (with the original art work) and Green Day's Dookie. You?

"I have no particular talent. I am merely inquisitive" - Albert Einstein

For the best quality mp3s use EAC (exact audio copy) to rip your audio CDs and LAME to encode them. Follow this guide:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm
SirV
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22. November 2006 @ 06:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by djscoop:
I hear ya...it is great to meet other analog enthusiasts. I myself collect vinyl...mostly classical, but I also have jazz, classic rock, and contemporary rock. My collection is only about 300 LPs, but it always growing...

yes the need for backing up these precious records is ever so great. If the process your using now works then great. But keep in mind that the line-in quality of computer sound cards is only so-so. I have the luxury of being an audio nerd, and for the past several years I have taught audio production at a local college in LA. The program I use is called Pro Tools, which is the industry standard for the film/tv and music industry. While it is overkill for the average audio guy to just capture records to vinyl, since I have it, might as well use it.

What type of records do you have...anything valuable? The only records I have close to collectable is Pink Floyd's DSOTM (I have two copies...one beat up one that I play, and another unopened one), Guns N Roses Appetite for Destruction (with the original art work) and Green Day's Dookie. You?
Hi
This is the sound card that I use.
http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp category=505&subcategory=491&product=9871

The real reason I want to upgrade my soft wear is for better text capabilities. Everything else is pretty much rudimentary. I realize that most of these 7.0 systems and higher all incorporate some form of declick n pop software and many other AV features I don't care anything about. I just wanted to obtain a software package that was current and contained a good "text mapping" feature. IE. when I archive the Wav.s to DVDR, the text is encoded with or "next" to the respective wav. files in such a manner that the whole package can be retrieved at a later date when needed. I have to believe this is possible. It seems too basic not to be.

I am pretty much a harmless fruit cake collector type that concentrates on older rare private Hard/Heavy - Rock/Psych/Prog albums. I have a number albums that are valued in the 200.00 plus category and some considerably more. The work I do for other well known and respected collectors is when and where I come in actual contact the really valuable stuff. One collector from New York shipped me 6 albums about 6 moths ago that had an estimated value of over 5000.00. The shipping w/insurance was close to 50.00 one way!

I am also a musician and use Live 5.0 to record and build audio that I record. I use various Roland VS hardware and many different audio software manufacturers in terms of mastering/effects & remastering.

I would like to know more about these "cue" sheets and exactly what they do. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

H.E.
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22. November 2006 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I use various Roland VS hardware and many different audio software manufacturers in terms of mastering/effects & remastering.

Nice setup. I wish I could afford something like that. As it stands right now I don't even have a decent turntable for my meager collection of about 150 albums.
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would like to know more about these "cue" sheets and exactly what they do. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

I'd start with these pages:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_CUE_Sheets
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Gap_settings

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