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15. December 2006 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The computer freezes while installing windows xp and 2000 usually at the same point, before the computer ever reboots. Why?


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15. December 2006 @ 08:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Faulty hardware.

Only way to know what piece, is to do some diagnostic testing on the parts in the system.

If the CPU, memory, hard/CD drives pass their tests, the last on the list will be the motherboard.
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15. December 2006 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, i used a good cd drive to check so it is not that, Used a good power supply too so it is not that, put the hard drive in another good computer so it is not that.

How do I test to see if it is the RAM, Processor, or Motherboard?


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15. December 2006 @ 10:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the CPU had any issues, you'd know right from the start. Basically, the computer wouldn't go past the POST screen. You might have hard drive lights and such light up, but nothing after that.

To test the memory, use MemTest86. If you don't have a floppy, create a CD from the ISO.

Now....when checking the memory, you should test each module one by one, and in each separate slot. So if you have memory modules A and B, and slots 1 thru 4...start off with A in slot 1, let the tests run, and if it passes...shutdown, (remove power cord from PSU, wait 30 seconds) then place module A in slot 2. Repeat tests.

If you know that memory module is good, then suddenly it fails when you moved it to a different slot, don't use that memory slot. However, if the module fails no matter what slot it's in...there ya have it.

Once you know all the slots are good, you don't have to test the next memory module in each slot, just use the first one, however, if all those pass and the problem still exists, chances are that a hard drive controller (chipset) has went bad on the motherboard. Not much you can do but replace the board.

Also, check to make sure all cables/power lines are secure.

I take it, when either installation gets to that point, the system just goes quiet and the drives wind down?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. December 2006 @ 10:19

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15. December 2006 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I take it, when either installation gets to that point, the system just goes quiet and the drives wind down?

Yes, you are 100% correct.


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16. December 2006 @ 08:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like a bad chipset....just went thru one of those not but a week ago.
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17. December 2006 @ 12:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
use a pencil eraser on the gold pins of the ram to remove oxidation off them as had to do that on a few customers.
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18. December 2006 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I forgot to mention it but the computer would come on half the time and nothing would appear on the monitor... now the computer turns on and nothing comes on the screen ever. does this suggest it is the motherboard?


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18. December 2006 @ 21:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Only real way to tell...is to be able to test the other devices in other machines. But I'd put my money on the motherboard needing replacement.
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19. December 2006 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
try another psu to elimenate that possibility
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22. December 2006 @ 15:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The motherboard was bad.
New motherboard installed and everything working!

Thanks all
special thanks to Morph416


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23. January 2007 @ 20:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I noticed the capacitors on the bad motherboard have a orange substance that is kind of hard that came out of the top of the capacitor(I don't know how I did not notice it before). The capacitors went bad?


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23. January 2007 @ 20:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since capacitors are designed to hold an electric charge for a given amount of time, any damage or leakage occurring will cause them to fail.
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24. January 2007 @ 07:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the capacitors went bad. i've replaced capacitors on a far number of motherboards & psu's with a healthy number fixed & working right. do you know how to do board soldering if want to fix that board?
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24. January 2007 @ 08:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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do you know how to do board soldering
No, I do not. I bought a cheap soldering gun from Wal-Mart and could not solder but this had to be a cheap gun. About $5 dollars for both the gun and a roll of solder.

If you could show me a guide of how to board solder I am pretty sure I could follow it.


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24. January 2007 @ 08:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the way i learned was to take apart old xt & 286 motherboards in the early 90's. also learned to do surface mounted ic's when working at celestica. what is the wattage of that soldering iron & the diameter of the solder?
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27. January 2007 @ 12:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
30 Watts soldering iron with a burnt head that needs to be replaced.
The soldering iron has a plug to turn it on and that is it.

The diameter of the solder is 95/Tin 5/Antimony.
I am not sure if the diameter is correct, I do not have the whole package it came in.


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27. January 2007 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ddp, you out having a beer tonight?


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27. January 2007 @ 20:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
at a customer from 5 til 11pm doing a fresh xp install. that is not the diameter but alloy mixture of 95%Tin/5%Antimony. the diameter as in 1mm(.040")or what?
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28. January 2007 @ 04:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is 1mm diameter.


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30. January 2007 @ 19:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do I need another soldering iron?


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31. January 2007 @ 13:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that iron might be alright. is that solder for electronics or what?
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31. January 2007 @ 16:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It says "general home and shop use" on box. I am about quality so I would like to buy a good one without overkill.


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31. January 2007 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
those caps are marked negative & positive with the negative side having a band down 1 side. along that band is some number values such as 2200 uf & 16v. what are the values of those caps that have leaked?
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31. January 2007 @ 21:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
3300uF 6.3v


 
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