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Ps2 disc spinning problem - help very appreciated!
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member_p
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25. December 2006 @ 05:46 |
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Hi all,
I'm still new to this forum, but after some googling this place seemed the most suitable to ask for help/advice.
The problem concerns my younger cousins slimline ps2.
He bought a Swap Magic 3.6 set, opened up the Ps2 and together with a friend of his he tried to modify the 3 sensors inside the case so that they wouldn't recognise if the tray was opened.
I found the above picture helpfull to explain the situation. My cousin read somewhere on the net (I don't know which site exactly) that it would be best to remove the screw from sensor B and completely take the part out. He managed to do this without damaging the part. The problem comes now though. The tape he used wasn't strong enough to keep the A and C sensors down firmly enough so he attached some glue to between tapes and sensors to provide it with some more strength. At first the result seemed pleasing as the sensors stayed down firmly once the glued tape dried up. When he re-attached the screws and turned on the console it wouldn't spin the disc though. He told me that the menu and everything was still intact though. To get a better view on the situation I screwed up the ps2 and after removing the tape from the sensors I saw that the sensors A and C are stuck inside their holes and I don't see a possibility to get them out; the particles are too tiny. I had the thought of somehow fixing or replacing the damaged sensors and while I found out that sensor A is cheap and replacable (by way of a new PCB unit) I couldn't find anything on sensor C though, but I think that's because it's attached to the main board.
My question is: Can this problem be fixed in any way??
BTW an 80 bucks repair is out of the question for him as he'd rather just buy a new console for like a 100 bucks, so if there's a cheaper/different method I'd very much appreciate any advice you knowledgeable forum members here have for me.
Thanks in advance, member_p
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zooom1834
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25. December 2006 @ 10:40 |
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OK hers what you need to do remove sensor B completly the whold metal thing its not a sensor its a disk stop so dont worry.
Then remove all the tape and tissue and glue. Then you want to follow the instructions here http://www.geocities.com/pstwoslimline/tapetissue.htm
and put the ps2 back together. make sure you put a good amount of tissue and a good tape like packaging or duct tape not scotch and for sensor "A" let the tape go over the tissue and put a good amount and let it extend to about the writing etched into the plastic
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zooom1834
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25. December 2006 @ 10:47 |
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I saw that the sensors A and C are stuck inside their holes and I don't see a possibility to get them out; the particles are too tiny.
Sorry I didn't read that the solution for that is open the ps2 remove the mother board flip it over find where the solder points that are around the sensors are usually four in a square shape and take a soldering iron then touch each of the and pull until you remove the sensors then look on the top side where the sensor was there should be four solder points and two inner points short out the two inner points (connect them together) and you're done do that with both sensors. And it should work even with swap magic.
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member_p
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25. December 2006 @ 12:05 |
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Dear zooom1834,
thanks for your advice,
I've tried out the things you mentioned, but to no succes.
I'm affraid the sensors - A and C - are (too) damaged.
The glue must have affected the little plastic buttons that are supposed to be able to go both in and out, because now they are constantly pushed in and can't pop out anymore, lol.
Is there any other solution? Maybe remove the sensors from their print plates and connect the metal contacts underneath the sensor to each other by solding so that there is a constant closed circuit?
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member_p
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25. December 2006 @ 12:14 |
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Sorry I didn't read that the solution for that is open the ps2 remove the mother board flip it over find where the solder points that are around the sensors are usually four in a square shape and take a soldering iron then touch each of the and pull until you remove the sensors then look on the top side where the sensor was there should be four solder points and two inner points short out the two inner points (connect them together) and you're done do that with both sensors. And it should work even with swap magic.
Sorry hadn't seen your 2nd reply because that basically answered my first reply. Only thing I have a bit of trouble to get a good visualization of is the soldering points. Is there a picture/graphic of some sort that can point out the soldering points a bit more clear?
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. December 2006 @ 12:16
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member_p
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26. December 2006 @ 14:28 |
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Anyone...? lol
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zooom1834
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26. December 2006 @ 18:39 |
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ill try my best as I dont have a pic
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O outer points holding switch in place unsolder all those and remove switch
0 inner two thats what activates the switch tins thos together to get to these you have to remove the switch as above and tin those together
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zooom1834
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26. December 2006 @ 18:39 |
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ill try my best as I dont have a pic
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O outer points holding switch in place unsolder all those and remove switch
0 inner two thats what activates the switch tins thos together to get to these you have to remove the switch as above and tin those together
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zooom1834
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26. December 2006 @ 18:40 |
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sorry for double post my internet froze and i clicked twice
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zooom1834
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26. December 2006 @ 18:42 |
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this is a fix as the last two messed up
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zooom1834
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26. December 2006 @ 18:43 |
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Dang it move the inne two lines to the rigt so they align sorry for all the posts
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member_p
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27. December 2006 @ 04:20 |
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I made a little image to clear things up a bit
The red line represents the connection I need to sold underneath sensor C. Could you confirm if that's correct?
Next to it I've drawn out what is to be seen underneath sensor A.
Could you explain what I need to be solding together to create that connection?
Thanks for all your help.
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member_p
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27. December 2006 @ 11:52 |
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Originally posted by zooom1834:
Dang it move the inne two lines to the rigt so they align sorry for all the posts
No problem, mate
You're very helpfull
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zooom1834
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27. December 2006 @ 15:43 |
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actually the four posts are the foundation of the switch remove those all then the pull out the switch. then on the top of the mother board tin the inner two togther.
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member_p
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27. December 2006 @ 23:24 |
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Originally posted by zooom1834:
actually the four posts are the foundation of the switch remove those all then the pull out the switch. then on the top of the mother board tin the inner two togther.
I know the 4 posts are the foundation for the switch and I already pulled the switch loose, but the 4 foundation dots are still on the board do I still have to remove them before I connect the inner 2 soldering points or is it okay to just leave em there?
And don't I have to be soldering anything on sensor A ?
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zooom1834
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28. December 2006 @ 22:13 |
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no leavethe four posts just tin the inner two together and do the same exact thing to sensor A
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member_p
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29. December 2006 @ 06:59 |
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Originally posted by zooom1834:
no leavethe four posts just tin the inner two together and do the same exact thing to sensor A
No problem for the C sensor, but I have no idea where the 2 connection points are located for A. After close examination I could only locate 1 soldering point (at the bottom of the print plate) instead of two that are needed to close a circuit.
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zooom1834
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29. December 2006 @ 10:20 |
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could oyu take a picture of the board how you have it top and bottom side
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member_p
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29. December 2006 @ 13:57 |
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The pictures I took of the PCB switch/A sensor with my cellphone camera are too unclear because the particles are too small and the camera hasn't too high a resolution, but I made an as detailed as possible graph in paint from both sides of the part and I hope it'll make things a bit clear.
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member_p
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30. December 2006 @ 05:55 |
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I've tinned the dots from sensor C no problem, just awaiting info on sensor A and I should be good to go.
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zooom1834
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30. December 2006 @ 08:53 |
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the two dots on the top tin those and try it if not ill try my best to figure it out.
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member_p
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1. January 2007 @ 13:38 |
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Originally posted by zooom1834:
the two dots on the top tin those and try it if not ill try my best to figure it out.
I tried it out, but it didn't solve my problem. So I unsolded the dots and now the ps2 won't even switch on at all anymore, lol. But I'm thinking of replacing the PCB switch with a new one, hope it'll work.
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zooom1834
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1. January 2007 @ 15:25 |
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yeah try that I know a good site for that stuff
richspsxparts.com
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