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How many unexperience solderer here actually tried to mod a ps2? o.o
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tiachop
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6. January 2007 @ 15:48 |
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As the topic suggested, I'm wondering how many unexperience solderer here actually tried to mod a ps2, and how was the the result?
I'm asking because I want to see if I should even make an attempt of doing so...
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6. January 2007 @ 17:53 |
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i would really not suggest you do that, unless
you have money to buy a new PS2 that is.
Look at this picture and you will see how many wires there
are and how tiny the solder points are.
It takes some good soldering skills to inatll a chip right
http://teammodders.com/forum/ps2-install-pics-f53.html
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tiachop
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6. January 2007 @ 18:15 |
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Ugh... they really are small @_@ ... I saw a mod-chip.com manual and it was bigger than that :( ... I thought it would be easy enough if I have manual though... and that I would be able to do it with extra caution =/
Also, what are the holes on the board?
Btw,would a 60 Wat solder iron be enough? xD
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dreamzboy
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7. January 2007 @ 04:09 |
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which holes? Well most of the holes on the ps2 are via point, if you are inexperience with it, it will take you days before you can make a solid contact with that point. I was a noobie back then, and it did cost me another ps2 and wasted countless hours to finally almost perfected the soldering skill.
But hey, if you got the extra money and plenty of time to waste, go for it.
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zooom1834
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7. January 2007 @ 06:49 |
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dont use 60 watt iron use a 15-30 max.
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tiachop
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7. January 2007 @ 11:10 |
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I have plenty of time to waste but no money :P ... I will take a look after taking apart the ps2 slim. If the task seems to hard, I will ask my dad to do it I guess...
By the way, would a hot glue gun be neccessary? I mean, is it okay if I use duct tape instead? o.o
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Flandrel
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8. January 2007 @ 10:59 |
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I have a question on some of those pictures. Why do they have that one wire running beneath the silver points on the big chip to the right of the modchip? The big chip that has Sony Entertainment on it.
As for tiachop's question I would use electrical tape and not duct tape. The glue would be better but if you must tape go electrical since it will not conduct anything. Not sure how the duct tape would do.
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tiachop
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8. January 2007 @ 11:46 |
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Well, I decided not to do it after all since I don't use ps2 all that much and modding just doesn't worth the risk
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raiderj
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9. January 2007 @ 15:20 |
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I always like to use very thin double sided tape to hold down my wires. Certainly not as sturdy as glue, but much easier to re-do things if you make a mistake. I've also found some liquid hobby glue works well.
I would definitely recommend buying a pre-mod or having a professional install a chip.
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15. January 2007 @ 19:10 |
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i modded my ps2 without ever using a soldering iron before and it was pretty easy. i used a magicv4 mod-chip on a v7 fat ps2.
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agi66
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22. January 2007 @ 09:04 |
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hey, guys.
I am a newbie in soldering and I am working on it.
the CC is still on its way, but i have already soldered the bios 10 wires and 4 out of 5 holes wires.
its really a tough job. i gave up at the beginning at first glance at the pcb, 'TOO SMALL!!'. But after a thorough, deep reading and practice. It is not that hard as it first looks like.
my tip is, 1. let the iron tip be as low temp as it just works
2.touch the point you are working at 1 sec at most
3.patiance
in my view, 1. the bios pad is not difficult. 2. the holes need extra patiance but it's hard to destroy it.
3.the 3.3v point beside the component is the most difficult to me cuz it may destroy the component by extra heat.
hope the CC could arrive today and let me have a try.
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24. January 2007 @ 07:06 |
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man FUCK ps2 was hard to do, I messed up a few times.
here's the deal, soldering some points on the mobo are no big at all.
BUT soldering individual lines that hold a particular chip or the bios to the motherboard are a PAIN, damn near impossible if you have the wrong bit for your soldering iron.
The legs are Soooooo close together and you can easily accidentally make a bridge w/ the solder. I would say "BE CAREFUL" but for you i'll say "DON'T ATTEMPT IT".
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raiderj
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24. January 2007 @ 07:18 |
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Would the no-solder DMS4 chips be a better solution? They are more expensive, but maybe worth it if you don't have soldering experience?
Has anyone tried these chips? I'm curious how well they work.
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24. January 2007 @ 12:41 |
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No. Don't even bother with those. These have resulted in masacred PlayStation 2s and broken DMS clips, and they don't even work with the slim unless you get the DMS4 EZI SE(one that is compatible with the slim, but it requires that you replace the entire slim casing). I say it's not worth the trouble. Just have a professional solder it in.
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25. January 2007 @ 10:17 |
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agree with above. The solderless chips work well IF you can get them installed without messing something up.
I have heard of many people having them shake lose after instal, or breaking them while installing. Soldered in is a better option.
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ps2modgod
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25. January 2007 @ 15:46 |
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Originally posted by steimy:
agree with above. The solderless chips work well IF you can get them installed without messing something up.
I have heard of many people having them shake lose after instal, or breaking them while installing. Soldered in is a better option.
WOW! You couldn't be more correct, solderless chips from DMS suck!
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raiderj
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25. January 2007 @ 15:55 |
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I guess that explains why all these mod sites have replacement parts for the solderless chips. Plus, I don't think I've seen any pictures of a no-solder installation.
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25. January 2007 @ 16:23 |
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@raiderj
Yeah well the EZI solutions are targeted towards the "green horn" and when you put these products in the hands of novices that don't have any more experience with a PS2 other then maybe how to plug in the network adapter ..... things get messy and console quickly die. I have seen to many people with EZFryed PS2's, its really a shame.
For some good examples of PS2 soldering skills have a look here
http://www.norcalmods.com/gallery
Here is an EZI that was soldered in hahahah
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raiderj
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25. January 2007 @ 16:50 |
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Here's one I did (regular DMS4 Pro). I'm interested in installing a Crystal Chip, I've done so many MI and DMS chips, something new would be nice.
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ps2modgod
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25. January 2007 @ 17:00 |
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Wow nice work. That looks like to work of someone I know.
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raiderj
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25. January 2007 @ 17:08 |
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Originally posted by ps2modgod:
Wow nice work. That looks like to work of someone I know.
I model much of my installs after Davbere on Team Modders - his work is the best I've seen.
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ps2modgod
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25. January 2007 @ 17:12 |
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Yeah Dave does good work, but I spedmetal's work is the best I have seen.
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Leech83
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26. January 2007 @ 04:04 |
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hi all, hope your all well.
I have successfully modded my fist ps2 a little while back now and am working on another, many people are correct with the patience you need. I also feel that confidence is a must, you need to be able to use tools well.
If someone cannot do this, they install will be very hard.
@raderj, i just wanted to ask what adhesive you used to place the wires on the ps2 board? also you have done a very nice job.
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raiderj
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26. January 2007 @ 07:29 |
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Originally posted by Leech83:
hi all, hope your all well.
I have successfully modded my fist ps2 a little while back now and am working on another, many people are correct with the patience you need. I also feel that confidence is a must, you need to be able to use tools well.
If someone cannot do this, they install will be very hard.
@raderj, i just wanted to ask what adhesive you used to place the wires on the ps2 board? also you have done a very nice job.
It's some really thin double sided tape that I found at a hardware store. I've been on the lookout for some good glue that you can paint on with a brush that isn't too sticky. I never use hot glue, as it seems a little overboard for 30GA wires.
Thanks for the compliment!
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26. January 2007 @ 11:36 |
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I've been on the lookout for some good glue that you can paint on with a brush that isn't too sticky. I never use hot glue, as it seems a little overboard for 30GA wires.
Here is a tip I'm surprised your mentor hasn't let you in on. Super glue in small amounts works very well, just try and keep it off the motherboard. You can paint it on with a tooth pick or any other small implement. You can also place a small piece of wax paper under the wires while your tacking them down with the super glue, this will help manage the glue and keep it from sticking to things you don't want it to.
Have fun!
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