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"2 Sheep burners& EFM encoding"
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Shoey
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8. August 2003 @ 05:03 |
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Posted below is a list of "2 sheep burners".
These burners have the ability to write regular bit patterns correctly vs. " 1 sheep burners" that write regular bit patterns almost correctly These burners can backup the latest Safedisc 2.9.x cd protection. The list is a little out of date (sorry). Recommended burning programs to backup Safedisc 2.x:
Alcohol 120%
Blindwrite Suite: http://www.vso-software.fr/index.htm
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CD Burners:
ARTEC CDRW241040+ -
ASUS CRW-1610A -
ASUS CRW-3212A -
ASUS CRW-4012A -
ASUS CRW-4816A -
ASUS CRW-5224A -
BTC BCE-3212IM -
BTC BCE4824IM 2002 11 21
BTC BCE-5224IM 2002 11 21
BTC CD-RW IDE4816 2002 08 26
BTC CDWRITER IDE4824 2002 11 21
BTC CDWRITER IDE5224 2002 11 21
CyberDrive CW099D 52x24x52 2002 12 02
LG GCE-8160B -
LG GCE-8320B -
LG GCE-8400B 2002 06 26
LITEON LTR-16102B -
LITEON LTR-24102B -
LITEON LTR-24103S -
LITEON LTR-32123S -
LITEON LTR-40125S -
LITEON LTR-48125W -
LITEON LTR-52246S -
LITEON LTR-52327S-
MEMOREX 16MAXX 1040JB 2002 05 13
MEMOREX 24MAXX 1040 2002 05 13
MEMOREX 32MAXX 1240AJ 2002 05 22
MEMOREX 32MAXX 1240AK 2002 05 13
MEMOREX 40 MAXX 1248AJ 2002 05 22
MEMOREX 48MAXX 1248AJ 2002 05 23
MEMOREX 52MAXX
POLAROID BurnMAX40 2002 11 25
POLAROID BurnMAX48 2002 11 25
POLAROID BurnMAX52 2003 01 31
Plextor Premium (52\322\52x)????
SONY CRX175A1 -
SONY CRX185E1 2002 05 22
SONY CRX185E3 -
SONY CRX195E1 2002 05 22
SONY CRX210E1
SONY CRX215E1
SONY CRX216E
SONY CRX225E
SONY CRX220E2 2002 11 21
TEAC CD-W548E 2002 12 06
TOSHIBA SD-R1202 -
TOSHIBA SD-R1312 2003 02 18
TOSHIBA SD-R2312 2002 07 25
TOSHIBA SD-R2412 2002 11 27
TOSHIBA SD-R5002 2002 11 14
TRAXDATA CDRW-2440MB -
TRAXDATA CDRW-2440SD -
TRAXDATA CDRW-4824E 2002 11 21
TRAXDATA CDRW-5224E 2003 01 31
WAITEC FRISBYII 2002 09 26
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DVD Burners:
Plextor PX-708A???
LiteOn LDW 401S
LiteOn LDW 411S
LiteOn LDW 811S
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Shoey :)
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gh0sTie
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8. August 2003 @ 14:00 |
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hehe thanks!
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Praetor
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12. August 2003 @ 07:15 |
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^Bump^
@ Praetor,
The links you posted are out of date and the list at CloneCD& CD Mate are "compatable" cd burners, not 2 sheep burners (EFM encoding)
Shoey :)
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Praetor
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17. August 2003 @ 17:21 |
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Okay my bad. Although I dont recall signing with "Shoey" :P
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REBEL_AUS
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26. September 2003 @ 20:43 |
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My CD burner is not on the list (Lite-on LTR-48246S) but yesterday i created a what i think is perfect copy of Jedi Academy using a BWA file off the internet and using it with Alcoholer/Alcohol 120%.
I am not sure it is perfect, but i can play it on my CD-ROM when all emulation is turned off.
does this mean my burner is 2 sheep.
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Shoey
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27. September 2003 @ 01:25 |
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My CD burner is not on the list (Lite-on LTR-48246S) but yesterday i created a what i think is perfect copy of Jedi Academy using a BWA file off the internet and using it with Alcoholer/Alcohol 120%.
I am not sure it is perfect, but i can play it on my CD-ROM when all emulation is turned off.
does this mean my burner is 2 sheep.
1) You created a "modified" backup, not a perfect backup as one needs the aid of a bwa or mds file. Hey, as long as it works without the aid of any emulation is fine with me.
2) "2 sheep burners" are in referance to backing up Safedisc, not SecuROM. Your "reader" must have the ability to read sub-q channel data as most "roms" can these days(SecuROM).
Shoey :)
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REBEL_AUS
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28. September 2003 @ 23:26 |
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I have the australian version so on the CD it was safedisk 2.9
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Shoey
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28. September 2003 @ 23:41 |
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I have the australian version so on the CD it was safedisk 2.9
I'm aware of this m8 but the US version is SecuROM 4.8.x cd protected . Please leave this thread for "2 sheep burners" only and not discussion
Shoey :)
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keithyb
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12. January 2004 @ 14:28 |
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U Guys need to update your list of 2 sheep burners i think...
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Agentwise
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12. January 2004 @ 15:10 |
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Can anyone tell me how many sheeps my Toshiba SD-R5112 is? I have checked the list at makeabackup.com and the original post but mine was not listed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I also have a samsung sw-216b and as far as i know it is a 0-sheep burner. Is this correct?
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Praetor
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12. January 2004 @ 18:04 |
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Viper753
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12. January 2004 @ 20:09 |
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yo sup? I was wondering if a lite on 52327s is a two sheep burner... is it? I seems to make perfect backups (work with no emu on cd-rom drives)
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Shoey
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13. January 2004 @ 00:15 |
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yo sup? I was wondering if a lite on 52327s is a two sheep burner
Sup? (back at cha') The LiteOn LTR-52327s is a 2 sheep burner.
Shoey :)
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slowride
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13. January 2004 @ 06:33 |
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Hey Ya'll... I am really grateful for the information in this thread... It's the most current 2 sheep list I've been able to locate. Even google isn't finding any, most of the links are broken error 404 etc... is it that proper EFM encoding is now standard on all recently manufactured drives? Gratefully, with what you all have posted and the help of the only not very recent list I could find... http://com114.wonihome.net/CloneCD.htm
I got an Asus... I cant even find the "Olli's List" what is up wif dat? Where'd the info go?
The Confused New Person
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Shoey
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13. January 2004 @ 08:35 |
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is it that proper EFM encoding is now standard on all recently manufactured drives?
All burners write efm encoding. Some burners write regular bit patterns almost correctly (1 sheeper) and other burners write regualr bit patterns correctly. ( 2 sheeper) Don't quote me on this one but I "think" dvd burners writes TSM or TFM encoding (ten to fourteen \sixteen modulation) compared to a cd burner, it writes eight to fourteen modulation. (EFM)
Shoey :)
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bigbadblo
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24. January 2004 @ 11:40 |
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Hey folks ...
As my first post on the AfterDawn forums, I thought I'd ask a question that truly has me baffled. I've tried to educated myself with the info being tossed back and forth about 2/1/0-sheep burners, how its writes the data, etc.
I tried the test found here for my own burners: http://www.petemoore.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/guides/pc-cdrom/sheeptest.htm.
I burned the 2-sheep dat file as well as the 1-sheep dat file in accordance with the directions onto a 1x-4x Imation CD-RW disc. I used my Sony DRU-510A burner to accomplish this.
Now, if I try to copy the dat files from the DRU-510A drive back to my harddrive (as the method to determine if the drive correctly wrote the info), it will fail in its attempt. However, if I exchange the disc from the drive I burnt it in (DRU-510A), to my old-school CD-RW drive (which is a HP CD-Writer+ 9900j), the dat files copy back correctly, no errors ... ?!
Now, I tried to search for the explanation of what is going on, but I'm not having much luck. My question is whether or not the DRU-510A is a 2-sheep burner, minus the ability to correctly read what it burned (and the HP apparently can)???
Sorry if that's confusing. But I'm confused!
Thanks for your help!
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Shoey
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24. January 2004 @ 15:09 |
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My question is whether or not the DRU-510A is a 2-sheep burner.
Backup any Safedisc 2.8-3.15 pc protected game and if the backup plays in a dvd\cd-rom= "2 sheep burner".
If it fails= "1 sheep burner".
Recommend programs for backing up Safedisc 2.x\3.x:
1) Alcohol 120
2) Blindwrite 5 5.1
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agent-k
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11. September 2004 @ 05:55 |
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I have an LG GCE 8240B cd-rw. I have never had any problems copying games with it and yet it's not listed anywhere as a 2-sheep burner. I have found a few discussions on the internet where some say it is and others say it isn't. I was going to get a new lite-on cd-rw in case I came accross a game that I couldn't back up. But first of all, out of curiosity, I clicked on the sheep test and followed the instructions to the letter.
I used Nero to burn the appropriate files to a ReWritable CD in the LG drive and then read them all back to my hard drive using my Pioneer 107. They transferred across immediately, even the 3-sheep test file transferred straight away.
I've now changed my plans about buying a new lite-on, I'm not going to bother as there is no need.
I tried the same test again but this time I used my Pioneer 107 to burn the files, which it did but would not read them back, so I guess that one is completely sheepless.
One more thing I noticed is that the files burned using the LG 8240B couldn't be read by my DVD Rom(GDR 8161B) or the LG 8240B and yet the 107 had no problems at all.
Does this mean that any tricky games backed up by the LG should be played in the Pioneer or doesn't it matter what I play them in because it's the burning process that counts?
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agent-k
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11. September 2004 @ 07:04 |
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Backup any Safedisc 2.8-3.15 pc protected game and if the backup plays in a dvd\cd-rom= "2 sheep burner".
As an extra test I just copied my wife's favourite game, 'CSI Dark Motives'.
The copy protection according to A-Ray Scanner is 'safedisc 3.20.022'.
Just installed the game from the copied discs and everything went perfectly.
I guess the LG 8240B is definately a 2-sheep burner then. That's saved me a few shillings.
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y2jeff
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5. October 2004 @ 20:36 |
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people. sorry to sound like a complete noob but this is all pretty confusing
is my pioneer dvd-rw dvr-108 a 2 sheep burner ?
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Oldaussie
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14. October 2004 @ 14:23 |
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Hi
Being a newbie to copying CDs with Protection
I would like to ask for advise on how to..
I have a liteon LTR 52327s burner and I have downloaded
BlindWrite also Alcoholer 120 1 9 2 1705
as I have a program that I want to Copy and use as a backup.. I copied it using Clond CD, but it won't work in my computer
I checked the original in Clonyxxl and it tells me
the protection is SafeDisc v2.9 with 10 Sculls.
I have search the net for the last 3 days to try and find how to make a copy that will work..
Please can someone talk me throught it and if I have the correct programs downloaded to do so
Regards
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Legacy784
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20. October 2004 @ 16:28 |
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I just got my new Lite-On burner and am burning my safedisc 2 copy right now! So far everything is running smooth, no buggy errors!!! This is great! Thx so much man for that information!
I LOVE YOU MAN!
Edit: WOOOOOT ITS DONE...THIS IT SO OWNAGE!!
IN YOUR FACE YOU PROTECTION PEEPS
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Toughsox
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7. December 2004 @ 17:47 |
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Howdy folks. The holidays are approaching and I want to upgrade my sons deck. This list is rather old and I want to get him a dvd burner that will do Safedisc. Can someome tell me what are the "2 sheep" dvd burners, or will they all work nowadays?
Thanks for the help
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thebeav
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16. December 2004 @ 19:20 |
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the poineer a06/106d is a 2 sheep burner just so you all know...(its one of those almost 3 sheep burners...)
IDE version runs about $100 right now in bay area california
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6. January 2005 @ 09:41 |
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Hey guys, just want to add cdr burner GCE-LG 8520b to the sheep 2 list. I ran the crucial 3 test's to see if it could muscle it up. WHAM!!!!! all good. Yeah ..baby...yeah..
skopas
Here is the url to the sheep test. Enjoy.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101608
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