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Xtreme 4x super cheap dvd-r , any good?
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sethk
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8. August 2003 @ 14:00 |
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Couldn't find any posts about this here or on dvdrhelp, but Blank-CD-CDR.com is advertizing these at very low prices. I know Ritek has a better track record and I'm skeptical of the "quality is equilivant to Ritek", but for ultra cheap discs, how are these, if anyone has tried em?
Xtreme 4X DVD-R 4.7GB for As Low as $0.80 Per Disc
Xtreme has been at the top of the chart in the most popular selling 4X DVD-R, it's quality is equilivant to Ritek 4X DVD-R.
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8. August 2003 @ 17:30 |
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Come on...the thread title says it all lol. Probably not is the answer, it is better to buy quality media like riteks and not have to worry about problems!
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tonyl1979
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11. August 2003 @ 16:07 |
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"media like riteks and not have to worry about problems!" The person is asking for a quality question within specific price range. That is the most dumbest answer I have ever heard.
If someone asks, "I'm curious about purchasing a car, Honda Civic Coup" and other person can make a dumb statement by "Just get a Benz CL500 Coupe, it's better, better quality"
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11. August 2003 @ 17:13 |
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lol - just shows how stupid you are. Your comparison is ridiculous lol.
Firstly, Ritek arent the most expensive disc around. The cheapest 4x discs in UK are around 70p or so (im aware you can get grade D that dont work at 50p) When you can get Ritek for 90p in the UK, grade A, then thats not much extra to pay when you are not going to get coasters.
Lets go back to your very smart statement.
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"I'm curious about purchasing a car, Honda Civic Coup" and other person can make a dumb statement by "Just get a Benz CL500 Coupe, it's better, better quality"
Right, a Honda Civic Coupe will cost you around £10,000 in the UK. A Mercedes Benz CL500 Coupe is going to cost you around £80,000 starting price.
Now lets do a simple mathematic calculation, since you are soooo smart and all. £80,000 divided by £10,000 equals what?? I think £8,000, but since im stupid, I could be wrong. So we can fairly safely assume that a Mercedes Benz CL500 roughly costs 8 times more than a Honda coupe.
Right now, lets go back to the original question. $0.80 is exactly £0.50. That, by my calculation means that the Ritek media is 1.6 times the price of the Xtreme 4x DVD as mentioned. So when we think about it (Sorry, i find it hard thinking cuz im so stupid) my answers was not suggesting that sethk should go for a disc 8 times more expensive, as your very enlightened comparison suggested. It was in fact suggesting that he/she (we'll try car comparisons for you) should go for a Volkswagen golf at £16,000 instead of the Honda Coupe for reasons of pure reliability.
One last calculation. Cheep media (on average - I do test a lot) has a tendency to produce very poor results on every third disc. When you take into consideration the time and effort spend backing up DVD's and the money involved, it makes sense to buy the media thats going to be guaranteed to work.
So, after all that, I will say it again: "Probably Not". Try buying Ritek media as you will have better results.
Tony: I do look forward to hearing your reply :-)
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sethk
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20. August 2003 @ 10:16 |
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Orphius, I know that in the past Ritek has made the best generics in the non high-end media category, and they are somewhat expensive. In the US, I can often find name brand media in a store cheaper than Ritek generics. So my choices really are:
1) Wait for a deal, and buy Fuji / Verbatim discs for about ~$1.20-$1.50 (sometimes as low as $1)
2) Buy Grade A riteks online which comes to about $1.50
3) Look for somthing thats about $0.80-$1.00 IF it burns close to as well as a ritek.
So far option 3 has seemed unlikely. In my own tests, I would agree, 1/3 discs going bad is average, some of the generics based on 4x princo or lead data are maybe better than that 33% faliure rate, maybe more like 10-15% but still I like low faliure rates, 1 out of 10 or less. I check every disc I burn, either CRC test or surface scan from Ahead speed disc, nowadays Im doing some spot checking with KProbe's PI / PO tester (raw parity error rate tests.)
Anyways, your numbers I would say are spot on going on past experience.
However at some point, new dyes, new manufacturers or new manufacturing techniques, paid off equipment, increased experience, blah blah blah has to pay off. At some point someone else will make good cheap generic discs, so I keep an eye out for what people think of new media such these xtreme, beyond, and other makes.
If you go back to my list, I'm starting to think more and more, option 1) is the best one for now for me and people in the US. I don't like paying the same amount for generics and name brands.
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tonyl1979
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20. August 2003 @ 10:47 |
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Oriphus, you are an idiot. Like everyone else could see, point of my message was to get the best media for cheaper price and I came up with an exaggerated example to show you how people are frustrated when they want an advise of a cheap good quality media and all you say is "xxx sucks, just get this, it's the best" You know what I mean?
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20. August 2003 @ 15:56 |
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I think i clarified who the idiot was with your previous statement Tony.
Sethk, i can understand why you are searching for a disc that is an in between for Ritek and cheap crap. People thought they were on to that disc when the Princo Yellow 4x came out, but it still has its problem. There is something nice about knowing that everyone of yur DVD burns will be a good burn. Call it peace of mind. Im willing to pay that extra 15-20p for that peace of mind. Also, the add said Xtreme is at the top of the chart im most popular selling 4x DVD-R. No one at AD uses it. Im not sure what chart the company is referring to, but Ritek media re the biggest sellers in the DVD-R industry.
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mice
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21. August 2003 @ 07:37 |
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zing!
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21. August 2003 @ 08:56 |
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Huh? Whats zing mean?
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T2K
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21. August 2003 @ 09:16 |
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could you post a link to these disks sethk>?
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Tosca
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21. August 2003 @ 10:39 |
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Uh oh a bitch fight!
LOL...
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mice
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22. August 2003 @ 00:28 |
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heh, lol. "zing" - you shut him up!
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jonnydoe.
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22. August 2003 @ 03:52 |
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"Zing"
To attack verbally; criticize sharply: zing an opponent in a debate.
To strike suddenly
Must be an american word cos I've never heard it?
Oh and there's no such thing as "good, reliable, compatible cheap media" lol.
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mice
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22. August 2003 @ 05:51 |
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heh - but i'm australian!
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sethk
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22. August 2003 @ 06:38 |
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T2K: Here is your link
http://www.blank-cd-cdr.com/xt4xdv41.html
Orphius: Yup for now I think you are right about the peace of mind factor, I bought 100 discs from Compusa (Fuji) for $120 after rebate (132 before rebate) so for now I feel like I've paid a little extra but very worth it for the peace of mind.
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22. August 2003 @ 06:43 |
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lol - i get you know. Never heard that word Zing before. Its not a bad word actually. Cheers.
I am always one for piece of mind. Those Xtreme discs. Does anyone know who manufactures them, ie what the ADVD Info is?
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jonnydoe.
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22. August 2003 @ 06:45 |
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lol mice, g'day m8!
www.mp3.com/adsr - I produce various styles of electronic music.
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sethk
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22. August 2003 @ 09:12 |
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Just for the hell of it, I emailed the shop to see if they'll tell me what the ADVDINFO media ID is. I'm guessing they'll ignore me, if I hear back I'll update this.
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T2K
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22. August 2003 @ 09:46 |
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whoh..Im buying these disks. The site says there compatible with my drive "pioneer a05"..so I dont have to research them. and what a price! 25 discs for 23 buks..Damn! cant beat that.
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mice
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22. August 2003 @ 23:36 |
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lol, g'day jonny...lets throw another shrimp on the barbie mate =)
(going to watch 'crocodile dundee' now)
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23. August 2003 @ 05:57 |
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T2K are you on drugs or are you joking. Every disc, be it shitty or not, will probably say compatible with the Pioneer DVR105/A05. Its a standard thing. White labe discs have it and they are as useful as a big freaking hole in the head.
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T2K
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23. August 2003 @ 09:19 |
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a compatibility chart is there for a reson and pretty sure its not made up for there sake of being sued....and yes I am on drugs but no Im not joking Im going to order 25 of theses disks to try them out. why not. I orderd ritek media a year and a half ago when people just like you were talking sh***.. and Im still useing them today.
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sethk
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23. August 2003 @ 09:29 |
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Let us know how you make out with these discs if you do buy them.
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23. August 2003 @ 18:44 |
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Ritek have always been the best discs available and have been around longer than that. Virtually every -R disc that is made says it will work with the Pioneer writers. My point was that White Label say that and they are still shitty discs.
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T2K
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24. August 2003 @ 11:14 |
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quote orphius:"Virtually every -R disc that is made says it will work with the Pioneer writers".How do you figure>?
anyways..thanks for that link Sethk. Ill try theses discs out then post the results here. ohh but wait according to all mighty orphius this is a bad idea....and how>?
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