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emachine
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2. March 2007 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since my .42 b is getting open tray errors on crack down.

I think its time to update. So which should I use a b c or d?
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2. March 2007 @ 20:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
52a if your back ups are good or 52b if you back ups are cheap(52b reads slower)
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2. March 2007 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd suggest c or d.
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3. March 2007 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So a is always fast.

B is always slow.

And what is c and d than?
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I flashed a brand new 360 samsung ms28 with 5.2b thinking this was the wise option, and almost no backups would work (dirty disk error) and even the ones that did crashed after a few minutes. I was totally puzzled, anyway I flashed the original back and then flashed with 52c (plays backups at 12 speed) and it now works like a dream, all disks load and play with no probs. I think the 4 speed was just too slow.
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C is fast by default and can be set to slow. D is slow by default and can be set to fast.
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6. March 2007 @ 04:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so how would you change from the default on C or D?


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sorry double post

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Azrea1
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i've been using 5.2a and it runs great, but i olny use verbs cheap media doesnt agree with me.

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Originally posted by motomods:
so how would you change from the default on C or D?

boot an orginal game in C to make it read in slow mode (2-4x) and for D a orginal makes it read fast (12x)

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6. March 2007 @ 05:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh cool thanks.. and you would put an original back in if you want to change it back?


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if u wanted to change it back to default then ud have to boot a backup

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6. March 2007 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so is there any major difference between 3.3 and 5.2 apart from it reading faster.. as i have 3.3 and am thinking baout updating..
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6. March 2007 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok does this have anything to do with write speed? Like I burn my games at 2.4x should I leave it slow than?
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Originally posted by motomods:
so how would you change from the default on C or D?

boot an orginal game in C to make it read in slow mode (2-4x) and for D a orginal makes it read fast (12x)
So how can you play an original with C in regular default fast? thanks

I'm leaning toward C but just a little confused. Is there any site that I could read over more info?
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7. March 2007 @ 03:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its in the readme if u download the 52 f/w from the normal place. if u wanted to read a org game at 12x in C, just dont put a disc in (or leave in a backup copy) when u power it on. ill post the info in the readme when i get home im at school right now, in cisco 2 lol

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Originals are unaffected. They play at their normal speed. Here's the info from 5.1 and 5.2:

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(v5.1) Open Tray errors fixed (PFI and SS read routines updated)
(v5.1) 5.1c (Dual speed, default fast) and 5.1d (Dual speed default quiet\slow) read speed (Originals unaffected). Both toggle with original Xbox1/360 disc
(V5.1) Xbox1 DDE errors caused by firmware, patched
(V5.1) Possible Xbox1/360 DDE errors caused by firmware, patched
(V5.1) Single Layer DVD disc support(+/-RW) for both Xbox1 and 360
(v5.1) New easier batch file "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd" to make all firmwares.

*Open tray errors now fixed for good, but "Open Tray" is still a valid status for disc insertions when the drive cannot recognize the disc.
*Dual speed firmwares C (default fast) and D (default quite/slow) return. Both toggle with original Xbox1/360 disc. Originals unaffected.
*Added patch to routines that specifically targeted Xbox 1 discs with read errors
*Added patch to a routine that may have caused read errors on Xbox1/360 discs.
*Added support for -/+RW discs for both Xbox1 and 360 discs.
*Added easier batch file to create firmwares "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd".

Single layer disks are supported for both Xbox1 and 360 (360 Single layer is supported, but not yet able to be reproduced correctly). For Xbox 1 the disks can be in either the same normal raw dump method or in XBOX file ISO format. This fully works with Xbox 1 using the new(not released yet) Qwix(info) or gdfimage created ISO. The default.xbe must be unmodified and still be signed (If in doubt , copy from original). Use xbefix to check if your xbe has been modified and needs to be unpatched.

360 file ISO is still in development. The exact structure for the 360 disc is being developed and a new Qwix will support the creation of these disks.


(v5.2) Disc-LockOn added for chronic open tray consoles.
(v5.2) DVD Video disc problems fixed

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Originally posted by ashvts:
so is there any major difference between 3.3 and 5.2 apart from it reading faster.. as i have 3.3 and am thinking baout updating..
You can burn and play single layer xbox 1 games with 5.2.
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dont forget about the open tray fixes among other things its just overall a better f/w and i would def upgrade from 3.3

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7. March 2007 @ 06:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If i am using verbatim's and burning with a 111d, would a be the best choice?

Thanks

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Originally posted by emachine:
Ok does this have anything to do with write speed? Like I burn my games at 2.4x should I leave it slow than?
I also use verbs and a 111d.
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Originally posted by emachine:
Ok does this have anything to do with write speed? Like I burn my games at 2.4x should I leave it slow than?
Burn at 4x.
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7. March 2007 @ 11:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 1337ag3:
If i am using verbatim's and burning with a 111d, would a be the best choice?

Thanks

lol ive heard 2.4x and 4x im not sure which is better i use 4x its faster and i havnt had a single error with it so thats gives ya an idea

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Originals are unaffected. They play at their normal speed. Here's the info from 5.1 and 5.2:

[quote](v5.1) Open Tray errors fixed (PFI and SS read routines updated)
(v5.1) 5.1c (Dual speed, default fast) and 5.1d (Dual speed default quiet\slow) read speed (Originals unaffected). Both toggle with original Xbox1/360 disc
(V5.1) Xbox1 DDE errors caused by firmware, patched
(V5.1) Possible Xbox1/360 DDE errors caused by firmware, patched
(V5.1) Single Layer DVD disc support(+/-RW) for both Xbox1 and 360
(v5.1) New easier batch file "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd" to make all firmwares.

*Open tray errors now fixed for good, but "Open Tray" is still a valid status for disc insertions when the drive cannot recognize the disc.
*Dual speed firmwares C (default fast) and D (default quite/slow) return. Both toggle with original Xbox1/360 disc. Originals unaffected.
*Added patch to routines that specifically targeted Xbox 1 discs with read errors
*Added patch to a routine that may have caused read errors on Xbox1/360 discs.
*Added support for -/+RW discs for both Xbox1 and 360 discs.
*Added easier batch file to create firmwares "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd".

Single layer disks are supported for both Xbox1 and 360 (360 Single layer is supported, but not yet able to be reproduced correctly). For Xbox 1 the disks can be in either the same normal raw dump method or in XBOX file ISO format. This fully works with Xbox 1 using the new(not released yet) Qwix(info) or gdfimage created ISO. The default.xbe must be unmodified and still be signed (If in doubt , copy from original). Use xbefix to check if your xbe has been modified and needs to be unpatched.

360 file ISO is still in development. The exact structure for the 360 disc is being developed and a new Qwix will support the creation of these disks.


(v5.2) Disc-LockOn added for chronic open tray consoles.
(v5.2) DVD Video disc problems fixed
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they're unaffected in 5.1 not 5.2 the one we're talking about, heres the readme for 5.2
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FOr Xtreme 5.2A backup Read Speed is always same as original game disks 12x. Original discs unaffected

FOr Xtreme 5.2B backup Read Speed is always quiet/slow. Original discs unaffected.

FOr Xtreme 5.2C default backup Read Speed is same as original game disks 12x. When Original Game disk is booted, all subsequent backup loading will be at Quiet/Slow Read mode, Original Game disks are unaffected. Turn console off/on to reset back to Default backup read speed (12x). Quiet/Slow Read Speed is for quiet operation and/or cheap DVD+R DL media.

FOr Xtreme 5.2D default backup Read Speed is Quiet/Slow 2-4x. When Original Game disk is booted, all subsequent backup loading will be at Fast Read mode 12x, Original Game disks are unaffected. Turn console off/on to reset back to Default backup read speed for backups (2-4x).

FirmGuard disables reading/writing of drive firmware. This is always on. Can only be turned off via Enable0800 mode. Do not have SATA cable plugged into Xbox 360 console when in Enable0800 mode.

Backups now automatically have pre-locked PSN range same as stated in extracted PFI sector if exists, or embeded PFI, therefore cannot read extracted SS/PFI/DMI sectors from disk. Currently all original 360 games have same PFI sector but maybe not in future, hence new feature of extracting PFI in Enable0800 mode and read from backup at PSN $4fb1d (Xbox 360) and $605fd (Xbox1) or if these sectors are blank embeded PFI will be used

Backups now support loading of DMI sector. This sector is different for every original 360 game but is currently not checked for, but maybe in future hence DMI can now be extracted also in Enable0800 mode and read from backup at PSN $4fb1e (Xbox 360) and $605fe (Xbox1)

Firmware checks for Enable0800 security sector @ PSN 04FB1F and if found, enables 0800 mode of firmware.


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7. March 2007 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
??? They're unaffected in 5.1 and up. That includes 5.2. Look at what you quoted. It say original discs unaffected for a, b, c, & d.

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FOr Xtreme 5.2A backup Read Speed is always same as original game disks 12x. Original discs unaffected

FOr Xtreme 5.2B backup Read Speed is always quiet/slow. Original discs unaffected.

FOr Xtreme 5.2C default backup Read Speed is same as original game disks 12x. When Original Game disk is booted, all subsequent backup loading will be at Quiet/Slow Read mode, Original Game disks are unaffected. Turn console off/on to reset back to Default backup read speed (12x). Quiet/Slow Read Speed is for quiet operation and/or cheap DVD+R DL media.

FOr Xtreme 5.2D default backup Read Speed is Quiet/Slow 2-4x. When Original Game disk is booted, all subsequent backup loading will be at Fast Read mode 12x, Original Game disks are unaffected. Turn console off/on to reset back to Default backup read speed for backups (2-4x).

 
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