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nqq
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_ 		31. August 2003 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone watched the high definition version on the T2: Extreme Edition dvd with the recommended PC requirments? How does it look? Is it noticably better than standard dvd quality?
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Oriphus
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_ 		31. August 2003 @ 17:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wrong forum - what has it got to do with DVD Hardware? This is for the off topic forum!
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_ 		31. August 2003 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The reason I posted in this forum was because the high definition version requires special hardware and software.
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_ 		1. September 2003 @ 05:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is more information about it:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/T2DVD.aspx

This is the first thing I've seen that has higher system requirements than the 2.4ghz system I got over a year ago. My monitor can't even get up to 1920x1080 resolution. Has anyone tried this dvd?

I didn't think high definition video would fit on one DVD.
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Oriphus
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_ 		1. September 2003 @ 07:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jesus thats some high spec disc! I think i leave it to my Marantz theatre and 60" projector to try it rather than my 2.53GHz comp
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_ 		2. September 2003 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've found some more websites about it.

This site says it is impossible for a DVD to hold HD video: http://timefordvd.com/tutorial/HDDVDTutorial.shtml

This site says Windows Media 9 solved data compression issues: http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-21176889-0.html

This site says the HD DVD is more resistant to tampering and piracy: http://www.iht.com/articles/95700.html

This site says it will only play with Region 1 players:
http://www.totaldvd.net/cgi-bin/displaynews.php?id=3940
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_ 		3. September 2003 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HD DVD is something for the future. Who knows what form it will end up taking, a blue laser, a red one, enevitably it means upgrading our systems to cope with it.

The future i feel for HD DVD is more than likely the new blue laser systems. These systems can hold up to 12 times more data on a similar disc to a DVD-R (though they are cartridges). With Sony's new blue laser system, data transfer rates of 76MB a second may not be too far away! Couple this with discs that will be able to handle 50GB by 2005 and 100GB a few years later, the oportunities are amazing. With a system like this, i would be able to utilise my 60" 1280x1024 projector. However, backward compatibility is an issue i would be worried about. Blue laser systems cannot read red laser (current DVD) systems. That would mean having a system that contained both red and blue lasers.

There already is a blue laser system available for recording on to called Blu Ray. It retails for around $3000 i think, but is pretty useless to have since nothing really plays it and normal DVD's are compressed before putting on to disc anyway. If you were to take a normal DVD, before it is compressed, you will find it to be a lot lot more than 8GB or whatever it is. Lets hope in the next 5 years, a system is brought out without as much compression on it. We might even begin to see LPCM as the stereo sound track and THX 2GB sound files!
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_ 		3. September 2003 @ 05:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If this Terminator 2 DVD can hold HD video, why do we need another format? I've read that if you have a big screen HD monitor or projector you can plug your PC into it so you don't have to watch it on a regular small monitor.
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Oriphus
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_ 		4. September 2003 @ 15:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thats true about plugging a projector into the computer using the VGA, i can do it.

The HD DVD is not really HD DVD on the terminator disc. It is software enforced rather than hardware. Basically it is a work around!
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_ 		7. September 2003 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've bought the DVD. When I play it on my 2.4ghz PC it lowers the framerate down to 14fps. I wondered if copying it onto my harddrive and playing back the image file would help any. It did. When I play it from my harddrive it plays smoothly except for the beginning of a few chapters the screen goes black for a few seconds.

I assume this works because my harddrive can be read faster than a dvd-rom. But why would having a 3ghz allow the dvd-rom to read faster?

What are the benefits of HD being hardware enforced rather than software? Is having a high-end pc with microsoft software the only real drawback? Why shouldn't future dvd standalone players adopt this 'work around'?

On my 19" 1600x1200 monitor I can really notice more clarity in the HD version.
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_ 		14. September 2003 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are my last questions too techincal to get simple answers?
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