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dvd-5 and dvd-9 disc lists
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poodull
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15. July 2002 @ 13:25 |
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So i got my pioneer a04 and my online dvd-rental subscription, and burned over 20 discs so far. yippee. what ive found when i started is still true: burning dvd-9 discs sucks. from the 2 disc splitting to rempeg to tpmpeg bs, if i see a dvd-9, i watch it and ship it back the next day.
Until someone comes up with a nice little proggy that takes the vob files and deals with everything inbetween to simply deliver a <4.3Gb vob set, i'll stick to dvd-5s.
So here is a list of dvd-9s that ive skipped over in the past to save my sanity:
Bronx Tale
Blow
Slap Shot
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Shining
The Godfather
Almost Famous
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
The Deer Hunter
Life is Beautiful
Raging Bull
and here's a list of dvd-5s ive had the pleasure of 2clicking my way to an iso.
Tommy
Rushmore
American Psycho
Office Space
Southpark Movie
Swingers
Ghost in the Shell
Swimming with Sharks
The very short list of dvd-9s ive been able to rip extras from to fit on one dvd
Easy Rider
Please go ahead and reply to this thread with your list of DVD-5s and DVD-9s you've encountered. MOST IMPORTANTLY, DVD-9s in which the main movie is less than 4.3Gb.
-dull
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Disclaimer: This thread is for people who want one-off ripping, not 2 discs, not remuxing master or wannabes. if time is money, i'd rather spend the 16 bucks than then 3 days and 2 coasters for the original... thank goodness this is for backup purposes only.
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simzy
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15. July 2002 @ 19:30 |
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Other Dvd's I Have Found to Be Dvd-5 Was Shalow Hal And The Usual Suspects
A found Chopper Was A dvd-9 But Still Under 4.2
Keep thi List Going As It Is Great to Know what Disks can Be Copied....
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16. July 2002 @ 02:06 |
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I'm fairly certain that no one's gonna rip these other than me, but these movies were DVD-5:
Moomin TV Series (Scandinavian version, Swe/Fin, region free, no CSS)
:-)
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simzy
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16. July 2002 @ 05:36 |
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X-MEN Is Also dvd-5,
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poodull
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16. July 2002 @ 06:46 |
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The newest lot:
DVD-9:
Startup.com
Clockwork Orange
DVD-5:
True Romance
Trainspotting
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WTF is Moomin?
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16. July 2002 @ 09:04 |
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I made a stupid little tool that tries to retrieve info from various places to make the process automatic. Not perfect yet and seems to be "busy" way too often, but worth a try:
http://www.afterdawn.com/dvd/dvd_layer.cfm
...and Moomin is a Finnish cartoon character, aimed for kids 5years or younger :-)
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16. July 2002 @ 10:02 |
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did you erase my post? I'm not sure where it went, I just want to know the difference between DVD-5 and DVD-9, I'm sure it's not a difficult answer, thanks
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16. July 2002 @ 10:57 |
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Guido:
a) It's a newbie question, so wrong forum
b) We don't allow non-related posts to threads (this thread lists DVD-5 and DVD-9 movies, that's it)
But to make you happy this time:
DVD-5 -- single layer, everything on DVD takes less than 4.36GB total and therefor fits directly to DVD-R
DVD-9 -- dual layer, everything on DVD takes less than 8GB and needs to be splitted to two DVD-Rs
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poodull
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16. July 2002 @ 11:00 |
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Great little search engine. but i have to admit, the default afterdawn.com engine has much to be desired. is there any way there could be a post of the whole database? it cant be too big in xml format.
It also doesn't answer the question: will the main movie fit on one dvd-r?
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16. July 2002 @ 11:05 |
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poodull: True. Current list actually harvests the data from various DVD retail sites, including Amazon :-) And on-the-fly, that's why the errors appear every now and then.
Would it be cool to add some features to it, like user commentary possibility ("had to remove swahilian subs and indonesian AC3 to fit it to DVD-5, but now its ok"), field for DVD-9 movies that indicates "main movie fits to DVD-5", "IFOEdit stripping will fit the movie to DVD-5", "needs re-encoding to fit on DVD-5"?
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poodull
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18. July 2002 @ 13:55 |
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so dRD, if you can search databases by title, cant you search by layer?
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18. July 2002 @ 15:01 |
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poodull: I'm currently adding some stuff to it:
-search by layer
-if the movie's layer is not known or movie is DVD-9, offer an option "If you have ripped this movie, please help us!" which would ask these:
-did you get the movie and extras to fit on one dvd-r by stripping out useless audio & subtitles?
-did the main movie fit to one dvd-r (without parsing anything, like subtitles, out, but dropping extras out)? yes/no/havent tried/noidea
-did the main movie fit on one dvd-r by dropping extras and dropping subs/audio tracks?
-additional comments
...and that data would be then associated to the DVD in the db. Sounds ok? Additional features needed? (let's try to make this dvd-r scenes equivalent to dvd players list in vcdhelp :-)
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poodull
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19. July 2002 @ 06:07 |
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SWEET! way to take the initiative dRD, im psyched. yeah, i like the way vcdhelp's search works with pre-defined checkboxes and dropdowns so you cant mess up the search.
some ideas for search/select statements:
* where name like %string%
* where layertype = (dropdown {5,9})
* order dateadded desc/asc (for new releases)
* group by publisher (ive always wanted to know if there's a correlation between layers and publishers.. maybe cheap bastards use dvd5 only)
* where movie_fits = true (dvd9s that can be ripped easily)
and each entry can have vcdhelp.com forum-style entries where one can chime in and tell rip experiences, check movie_fits to t/f, talk about another available copy (criterion, special editions, directors cuts, etc) with varied results... etc
btw, im no longer newbie! weeehooo!
-dull
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poodull
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19. July 2002 @ 06:16 |
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another idea for we developer dorks.
export the database via xml download.. for our own use? i'd understand if you wanted to keep it for your own trafic/profit -- but maybe just expose the tables with the layers and dvd info and not the forum-style postings / value-added junk.
and the reason why....
one could incorporate that list into a personal app like the mp3 and movie collection apps you have on your software pages.
..heh, you may have your first .net app in your download section soon. (im a c# developer)
-dull
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19. July 2002 @ 06:38 |
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Heh, thanks for the ideas. I try to look into this during the weekend. Problem with searches is really that I use Amazon's XML/SOAP search as a backbone if my own db doesn't find anything.
But how it now works is that _all_ the search results, whatever you search, that come from Amazon, are stored in our local db. So eventually the db will contain enough data to get rid of most of the Amazon queries (that don't allow to search with specific criteria, show up titles that don't have the requested name in the title, but in the desc, etc). But Amazon was by far the easiest way to get "full" DVD listing. Manual adding of DVDs that don't appear in Amazon is one step that needs to be done as well.
But let's see, hopefully somekinda alpha version is ready by Sunday, if I get a chance.
And yes, I can _easily_ create you XML/WDDX frontend, but I probably need to limit the number of queries made from external IPs/hour, just because of the reasons you mentioned -- profit / traffic.
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22. July 2002 @ 07:07 |
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*phew* Some hardcore programming and it looks much better now. You can already submit infos for DVD releases, etc. Viewing other users' comments is still under dev, but it will be there soon.
Feel free to submit ideas/feedback and obviously those ripping reports to the layer list.
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poodull
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24. July 2002 @ 03:01 |
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just a few suggestions:
if leaving "please select" means "i dont know/havent tried", perhaps that would be a better display.
after you enter a message, you should go back to the item you searched with your new post.
have a search box in the result page so users dont have to click 'back' to search again.
lots of blank real-estate below the result. could be used to splatter another little non-instrusive ad. (one more there may mean one less popup somewhere else)
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24. July 2002 @ 03:04 |
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Thanks, I will make some changes to the layout & stuff shortly. Hopefully I can "launch" this thing into wider audience within few days as well, as the tool itself doesn't have that much value without user input.
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poodull
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24. July 2002 @ 03:20 |
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wow. thats some seriously quick response time. got the search bar in the results page already!
er.. are the comments displayable yet, or still working on it?
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poodull
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24. July 2002 @ 03:24 |
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noted a bit of a problem also...
take Tommy Boy for instance, it has two listings, one for $21 and another for $29. They each have a 'commments' input link which will probably make it hard to consolidate later.
luckily for this case both are dvd-5
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24. July 2002 @ 03:36 |
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Heh, I'm currently kinda bored (spending company time programming the layer thingy ;-), so things get done quite rapidly. Fixed also one bug in the search (searching with more than one keywords resulted the search to go directly to external DVD db instead of the internal one which has the comments & stuff).
The discs.. They're very likely different editions of the same movie, that's one reason why I have the text on comment page to ask people to visit Amazon first and make sure that they're definately talking about the correct edition -- Amazon separates the items by ASIN which is unique for each edition (and has virtually all editions listed on their db).
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24. July 2002 @ 03:37 |
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And the "show user comments" page will be available today. Gotta go to one _long_ meeting now, but hopefully by afternoon (GMT) :-)
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neil_sue
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24. July 2002 @ 06:28 |
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i liked your new little tool that you have got very much i have started putting some of them in already but it needs alot more people to be doing the same thing , I will bring a list into work tomorrow and update all the ones that i have backed up so everyone leys all pull together.
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24. July 2002 @ 06:40 |
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Thanks neil_sue. I've also now finished the show user comments page and it just needs some polishing and error checking later on.
Also, Region 4 will be added shortly. Region 2 is more complicated as there are normally around 7-10 different R2 releases of the same movie (different language versions, Japanese editions, etc), so R2 wont be available for a while until I find some place that provides unique identifier for each and every release for R2 discs in some form.
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poodull
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26. July 2002 @ 05:27 |
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im going to keep this mess going...
well, its only me, you (dRD), and peggy(neil)_sue making posts. but yet i still have suggestions.
first, make comments mandatory. Were there any circumstances that made the rip easy/hard?.. etc. write anything except just clicking yes.
second, on your output page, make the 'view comments' more friendly like vcdhelp.com. for instance, the link should read 'view N comments' so i know if the Y/N/Y output is from one person or more.
third, what does your db do if people give conflicting reports? ie. you say yes to feature and extras, i say no.
last, how can we get more films on this thing? im dying to get involved. there are millions of films out there, yet very few are listed. I would love to write up a nice .net app or soap web service people could tie into.
dull
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