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Dr.Who
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19. March 2005 @ 03:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Weird.....

I just dont know whats happening.

The audio AC3 file is the same size as before being recoded. Its 35.5mbs

The Video m2v file is 4.77 GB

When I do the final burn in Nero the audio and video combined is only like a little over 500mbs

Somethings reeeeeaaaallly screwwy

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19. March 2005 @ 04:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh man...... I just thought.....

Man, if Im forced to add every frame to this chapter, can you amagine how many frames are in this movie?? 1000'S

grrreeeeaaaat..........

Well I made another thread so hopefully someone can advise me what we are doing wrong and why it only burns 30 mins of the movie....

Whats weird is it cuts off at the exact SAME point that the last burned copy had on it. Burns the movie up to the exact same point

Its GOT to be a setting somewhere we are just not seeing....

When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. March 2005 @ 04:11

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19. March 2005 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You don't chapter every frame.
What did DVDLab say the final disk size will be, after adding your m2v and AC3?
In preview, does it show the WHOLE video?
I'm beginning to think there's a major problem with TDA, not the TMPGEnc output.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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19. March 2005 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I loaded up both files in DVDlab and went into DVd pothology, and it said on bottom right 5.32GB

Is that where to look?

It does play the entire video on preview, BUT Im not sure if this is normal. This may be hard to explain... may have to do a print out and send it to you.

As I move the bar on preview over to see if it is the whole movie, the movie actually ends half way down the bar and the last of the credits is frozen.

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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. March 2005 @ 13:58

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19. March 2005 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Make a simple menu, with a link to movie 1, chapter 1, and compile it to your hard drive.
See if it will play in power DVD, Nero Showtime, or WinDVD. Do NOT use WMP to test it.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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19. March 2005 @ 22:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I played it back in power dvd and it did stop 30 mins into the movies.

So apparently theres something wrong going on in TDA when I convert the files to dvd vobs.

I guess we just cant figure it out.

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20. March 2005 @ 08:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So just author it in DVDLab instead.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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20. March 2005 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I suppose I can do that. Is that what you use?

I can get a full version of DVDlab anyhow, so no biggie

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20. March 2005 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDLab Pro is the ONLY authoring app I use. Everything else sucks, except some of the higher end stuff, that costs 5 or 6 times more.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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20. March 2005 @ 18:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I loaded both files into DVD lab, but cant figure out how to convert them over the Volume 1 folder.

So how do you start? What do you have to press to get this thing going?

Now again, under DVD pothology, it states the movie is 5.32GB.

Since a dvd-r only holds 4.7GB, will this be a problem?

When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. March 2005 @ 18:48

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21. March 2005 @ 06:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Read through this guide to get you started with DVDLab.
Once authored to your hard drive, let DVDShrink squeeze it down to 4.7gig for burning.
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=220092

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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21. March 2005 @ 06:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Awesome....

Thanks bud...

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21. March 2005 @ 07:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I noticed that the first half of the guide talks about working with an mpeg video

Since my files are coming from AVI to m2v or whatever TMPGEnc 2.5 converts the AVI to, Im assuming much of the beginning phases I can skip?

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21. March 2005 @ 09:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup. Jump to where you import assets.
Import the m2v and AC3, then go from there to make a menu and such.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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22. March 2005 @ 04:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Jim,

Having a little bit of a problem. I am at the part in the guide whee it says WORKING WITH MENU 1 and where I add a background, or frame to the black screen.

It states to hold down shift key when I drag a frame up to the window. I did that but it doesnt auto resize itself and when I right click the frame I selected, RESIZE IMAGE is grayed out.

Do I HAVE to have a background? Was thinking of just skippin this.....

If I must complete this segment, how do I load my own image into it? I cant seem to find anything in the guide that explains how.

ALSO, down at the section CHAPTERS MENU, where Im told to click on the PBC tab and select my timeout......

......theres NO timeout section in my PBC tab. It says

DURATION - inf
HI-LITE DEFAULT BIN - 0
FORCE ACTIVATE BIN - 0 (grayed out)

Thats it.

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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. March 2005 @ 04:59

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22. March 2005 @ 05:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I skipped all the fancy stuff like adding all the nifty stuff above and went right down to burning the dvd.

When I click on PROJECT, COMPILE DVD, it states a warning message to me saying menu 1 doesnt have any buttons???

I still get to the big screen with all the pie graphs on the right.

Do I HAVE to make a button in menu 1? I still cant figure that part out.

HELP

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22. March 2005 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you have a menu, you must provide a link.
Let's do this right the first time, ok? It's worth a bit of effort.
If you want your own picture as a background, right click in ASSETS, and find it.
Now it shows in assets.
Open menu 1 in the working screen. Right now, it's blank black.
Click and hold on your picture in assets you just imported. Hold down the SHIFT key, and drag and drop the picture onto menu 1 in the working window.
Now it's the background. It will resize automatically to fill the screen.
Now click the Aa.
Now click on your menu background anywhere, and type in something. Change the font, size, colour, whatever, then click OK.
You can resize this or move it around anywhere you want it.
Next, right click on it, select Link, movie 1, chapter 1 (even if you have no chapters, it won't matter).
NOW look at the connections tab. There should be an arrow going to ROOT VTS 1, from firstplay.
There should also be an arrow going from ROOT to MOVIE 1.
If this is so, you are ready to compile.
Click Project, compile DVD.
To test your menu, put a tick mark in the box that says, "Test Compile (replace movies with test image)"
DO NOT tick Auto-start recording.
Click Start.
This will generate in a few seconds.
You can now test the MENU functionality in any good player. Do NOT use Windows Media Player!
If your menu works the way you want it, you can now click Project, Compile DVD, and compile the whole thing. This will take a few minutes.
Once compiled, test again in your software player.
If all is well, open DVDShrink, and shrink it to fit (only if necessary!!!).
Burn in Nero, or other good burning app.
Testburn it onto a DVDRW if you're still not sure, so you don't waste blanks if something went awry.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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22. March 2005 @ 09:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds good.

Thanks for a more "precise" info reply. lol Ill give this a shot tonight.

Thanks - YOOOOOUUUU ROCK!

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22. March 2005 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I compiled it the first time before you mentioned to test it in a player.

I tried playing it video_TS in Nero Show Time, but the only thing that comes up in a green play icon that comes up, then disapears.

I followed your directions, but I dont know whats going on. Its not playing the movie

When I doubleclick BEHIND ENEMY LINES which is the title on my background, it comes up with a screen saying DVD LAB TEST

Below it, it lists

MOVIE 1
BEHIND ENEMY LINES_TRIM.M2V
AUDIO: (It doesnt say anything beside audio)



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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. March 2005 @ 18:05

Dr.Who
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22. March 2005 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, somehow the audio didnt load the first time. I reloaded it back. Going to try to re-compile the files.



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22. March 2005 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I recompiled it with the audio compiled with the video and I got the same results. Wont play movie. Just a play light pops up and goes away in the title screen.

If I double click the title, the DVD LAB TEST screen comes up and I hear 5 seconds of the 20th century fox song, and thats it. No video.

No what do I do? lol

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22. March 2005 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heres another thing I noticed....

I went back to the Menu 1 screen and where it shows the connections tab in the middle, off to the right of it are tabs MOVIE 1, MENU 1, and SCENES 1 FOR MOVIE 1.

I clicked on SCENES 1 FOR MOVIE 1 and noticed only 2 chapters were listed.

Now when I was making my chapters, I chose auto chaptered and set it to 120 so as to not get too many chapters created.

I noticed the 2nd chatper (only 2 chapters listed) showed it to be only 31 mins long

This is roughly about the time the movie stopped when I burned it using TMPGEnc.

*SHRUGS*

When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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23. March 2005 @ 06:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't mess with chapters or anything yet.
We need to get the menu structure proper.
You have a menu, which should be inside ROOT VTS.
This has a link that goes to movie 1.
You should also have a link from Firstplay to ROOT.
Look on the connections tab, and confirm this.
If you do, don't worry about colours and stuff, just so long as the link goes to the movie, and when testing with NeroShowtime, it shows the menu, the link, and when clicked on, it plays 5 seconds of audio with the funny screen showing the movie title.
This is what it's supposed to do!
Once you have confirmed that the menu comes up, the link works, and the funny movie screen with audio plays, then you can compile the actual movie.
Click File, save as, give it a name, and save the project. We'll get back to it in a minute.
Test it again in Showtime. MAKE SURE it plays ALL THE WAY THROUGH!
If it does not, then there's a problem with the encoded mpeg, which probably stems from a problem with the original avi.
If it DOES play all the way through, then you can run it through DVD Shrink if you want, or we can go back and add chapters and stuff.
Open DVDLab again, and click File, open, and find the project you saved. This will load everything back in as you had it.
Now, click the Wizard wand, and select Auto chapters.
120 is WAY too many. That's more than one every minute. Add maybe one very 10 minutes, so for a 90 minute movie, add 9 chapters in the whole movie.
Now click on Menu, add scene selection menus, thumbnail scene selection. Select a template.
Click OK, then click YES.
The menus now appear in the Project window.
Double click Menu 1, make a link from your main menu 1, to scenes selection menu 1.
The connections tab should now look VERY similar to this:

Compile using test images again, and test in Showtime. Test ALL links, from ALL menus.
If it all works, compile and test again, making sure the movie still plays ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
If it does, Shrink if needed, burn, DONE!

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. March 2005 @ 06:34

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23. March 2005 @ 08:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mmmm k.....(sighs)

Ill give this a shot tonight..................again. lol

The way you mentioned it, it seems you want me to not worry about the chapters until the very end. Mmmmm k

We'll see what happens. Its weird, because before hand when I clicked on auto chapters, and set it to 120, it only made 1 extra chapter which was only 30 mins long. ARRGH.

God, I hope it doesnt play only 30 mins of the movie again when I complete all this. I suppose if it does do it, then I might as well trash the movie and work on another movie.

Im just curious that if it does turn out to play only 30 mins from the movie, and I create another project off ANOTHER movie and it does it again, then Im doing somethin wrong........somewhere that I cant seem to figure out.

When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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23. March 2005 @ 10:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My guess is there's something in the AVI, that causes TMPGEnc to screw up.
It may, or may not be fixable.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
 
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