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HDMIv1.3
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gotpitino
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9. May 2007 @ 07:17 |
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JaguarGod
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12. May 2007 @ 22:08 |
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Now all we need are HDMI v1.3 TVs and we are set...
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gotpitino
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13. May 2007 @ 15:59 |
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What's that got to do with being able to get Dolby TrueHD and DTSHD sound? I thought the whole deal HDMIv1.3 was the audio, so why would the TV need to be HDMIv1.3?
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diabolos
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13. May 2007 @ 20:44 |
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gotpitino
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14. May 2007 @ 04:22 |
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I didn't know any of that. Thanks for the info. The receivers will still be must buys if you're watching HDDVD or BD. You can always get a new TV when they're available. Any word on when displays with v1.3 will be out?
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JaguarGod
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14. May 2007 @ 17:37 |
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I think this fall we should see the first HDMI v1.3 TV set. If you already have a recent TV, hold off on it though. While the video features of HDMI 1.3 are nice, it is not worth upgrading a TV right when it comes out (unless you were going to upgrade anyways).
BTW, will they actually use audio like Dolby TrueHD? I remember reading something about that being 18mbps. That means for a 2 hour movie, this audio stream will use up a bit over 15GB. Even with 50GB or 51GB capacity on discs, that is a little excessive. Maybe we will see it in Special releases on those HD DVD triple layer discs.
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error5
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14. May 2007 @ 18:31 |
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Originally posted by JaguarGod:
BTW, will they actually use audio like Dolby TrueHD? I remember reading something about that being 18mbps. That means for a 2 hour movie, this audio stream will use up a bit over 15GB. Even with 50GB or 51GB capacity on discs, that is a little excessive. Maybe we will see it in Special releases on those HD DVD triple layer discs.
AFAIK 18 Mbps is a maximum number (peak bitrate) for both Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio (for HD DVD's). However, both lossless schemes use variable bitrate which average from 1.4 Mbps (16/48 Warner HD DVD's) and 3.4 Mbps (recent 24/48 Universal HD DVD's) and depends on the complexity of the soundtrack. This amounts to around 1.2 to 4.2 Gigs for a 2 hour movie.
See post #7 here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10271234&&
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LPCM
2 hours @ 5.1 16/48 LPCM = 4.14 Gbytes @ 4.6 Mbps (used on most Blu-ray titles with LPCM)
2 hours @ 7.1 16/48 LPCM = 5.52 Gbytes @ 6.13 Mbps
2 hours @ 5.1 24/48 LPCM = 6.21 Gbytes @ 6.9 Mbps (used on Disney Blu-ray titles with BD50 + AVC)
3 hours @ 5.1 24/48 LPCM = 9.32 Gbytes @ 6.9 Mbps
2 hours @ 7.1 24/48 LPCM = 8.28 Gbytes @ 9.2 Mbps
3 hours @ 7.1 24/48 LPCM = 12.42 Gbytes @ 9.2 Mbps
2 hours @ 7.1 24/96 LPCM = 16.56 Gbytes @ 18.4 Mbps
3 hours @ 7.1 24/96 LPCM = 24.84 Gbytes @ 18.4 Mbps
Dolby TrueHD (comparable to DTS-HD MA)
2 hours @ 5.1 16/48 TrueHD = 1.26 Gbytes @ 1.4 Mbps ABR (used on Warner HD-DVD releases)
2 hours @ 5.1 24/48 TrueHD = 3.06 Gbytes @ 3.4 Mbps ABR (used on recent HD-DVD releases from Universal)
3 hours @ 5.1 24/48 TrueHD = 4.59 Gbytes @ 3.4 Mbps ABR
2 hours @ 7.1 24/48 TrueHD = 4.23 Gbytes @ 4.7 Mbps ABR
3 hours @ 7.1 24/48 TrueHD = 6.35 Gbytes @ 4.7 Mbps ABR
The important point here is:
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Once unpacked or "unzipped" by a player or future HDMI 1.3 receiver, the resulting output is a 24/48 LPCM track that is bit-for-bit identical to the original studio master.
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Classe SSP800 Processor//Classe CA-5200 5 Channel Amplifier//Classe CA-2200 2 Channel Amplifier
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gotpitino
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15. May 2007 @ 04:08 |
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I was definitely planning on buying the TX-SR805 as soon as it was available. Would you recommend holding off on that too. These receivers are starting to be like PC's, as soon as you buy one 3 months later a new and better one at the same price comes out.
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eatsushi
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15. May 2007 @ 06:32 |
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Originally posted by gotpitino:
I was definitely planning on buying the TX-SR805 as soon as it was available. Would you recommend holding off on that too. These receivers are starting to be like PC's, as soon as you buy one 3 months later a new and better one at the same price comes out.
Like error5 mentioned in another thread, you'll also need a player that has HDMI 1.3 to take advantage of the receiver's decoding of DTS HD-MA and Dolby TrueHD.
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gotpitino
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15. May 2007 @ 07:47 |
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The Toshiba XA2 is v1.3 right? Let me ask this before I go spending a couple of grand. If I've got the Toshiba XA2 and one of the new Onkyo receivers, will I be able to listen to Dolby Digital Plus, TrueHD, and DTS-HD through the speakers that I have? They're some what decent speakers(Atlantic Technology). I haven't read anything that says that the speakers need to be upgraded to here the next gen audio.
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eatsushi
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15. May 2007 @ 08:04 |
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You're right. You don't have to upgrade your speakers and you should be able to get the new sound formats fine with the Onkyo. One thing though, if you have a 5.1 setup right now and if your room can handle it, you'll have the option to add 2 more speakers for a 7.1 setup.
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gotpitino
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15. May 2007 @ 09:20 |
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I do have the 5.1 setup (2 Fronts) a center (2 surrounds) and a subwoofer. If I were to add 2 more speakers, where would they go in the setup? I'm guessing on the sides, but I want to make sure.
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eatsushi
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15. May 2007 @ 10:11 |
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gotpitino
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16. May 2007 @ 01:00 |
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The only video inputs that my TV have are component and DVI, would this cause any problems as far as running a HDMI-->DVI from the new receiver? I use a HDMI-->DVI from my DirecTV box and it works fine.
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eatsushi
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16. May 2007 @ 07:07 |
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It shouldn't be a problem.
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gotpitino
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18. July 2007 @ 07:01 |
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