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11. May 2007 @ 15:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Should i trust them? anyone got expriences? anything?
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11. May 2007 @ 23:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Got my mods done there a few times, they have excellent and professional service.
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12. May 2007 @ 08:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So what is the BEST bet when it comes to buying their new premodded consoles? PS2 of course

They've got 2 different Crystal Chips, Matrix Infinity GD, and Duo3 Gold.

I'm thinking Crystal 2.0 is the best, but is there anyone who can tell me FOR SURE before I buy? I liked the DMS4Pro, it pretty much never failed me!

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12. May 2007 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well... imma mod it with the dms4 one and then flash it with the latest ToxicOS. which is it?
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13. May 2007 @ 12:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a DMS 4 SE Pro. i liked it but toxic os was buggy. the current version is v0.41 and it has been like that for a little over a year now. and DMS fourms are being spammed and no one really cares...so i wouldnt get a DMS any more. The only thing good about the DMS 4 Pro is Internal Hard Drive support, so if u have a slim its pretty useless depending on if u plan to mod it with internal hdd on older versions. Crystal chip can play games online without needing it to be patched with the DNA$ which isnt hard to do... and matrix is just a more "durable" chip.
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13. May 2007 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It all sounds awesome. But i heard that both crystal chip and DMS4 Pro are ''network adapter ready'' or something like that. By the way, will a modchip let me boot imports or just backups?


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13. May 2007 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry for the double post but i wish i knew how to edit. <_<

Anyway, i have an original PS2 already modded with swap magic.


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14. May 2007 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Teammodders is a great site with great people. I would trust them 100%. I have had many consoles modded by various members there and send anyone who asks there ofr premods and repairs.

My suggestion is to get a used, premodded V7 with a Crystal Chip V2.0
That way you can download the programs for hard drive support, and have built in auto patching for your back up games to play online. Plus with a V7 adding an internal hard drive is real easy. A slimline has heat issues, and adding a hard drive can only be done to the V12 & V13 models. And that is only after dropping another $55 on an HD Combo case and having it installed as well.

I personally have a V7 and a V12 as you can see below. My DMS4 Pro has worked just fine for years now. Never had any problems. But the support for the chip is gone these days, so no more firmware update or help on their forums.

Matrix Infinity Green Dot is also a great chip, I am just not sure of it's features or what can be downloaded to upgrade them.


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14. May 2007 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got my v15 modded by evan at teammodders with an Infinity GD, and its worked great so far. Service was excellent so i can tell you that they are definetely trustworthy.

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14. May 2007 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a V5/V6 already modded with Swap Magic. But steimy, your saying that i should get crystal pro and then download additional features and stuff so it'd be like DMS4 pro? Cuz if i want a mod chip, I want it to be Crystal Chip 2.0 + DMS4pro cuz i dunno what to choose.


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15. May 2007 @ 03:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, Crystal Chip V2.0 has programs you can download to run an internal hard drive. each chip is different so you can't have both in one chip. But it should have programs to do about all the same things. I do not know how the interface compares to the ToxicOS that DMS4 Pro uses. And i do not thing you can get a built in cheat device for Crystal Chip V2.0, but that is not a big deal since most people can not figure out how to us that part anyway. I have no idea if the CC 2.0 HDD program works the same way. I have just heard very good things about that chip. Plus for people who play online the auto patching feature is great. With every other chip you have to manually patch the back up disc to play online.


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15. May 2007 @ 06:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok.. let's round everything up.

MATRIX INFINITY

Very Durable

CRYSTAL CHIP 2.0:

Auto Patches online games

DMS4 PRO SE:

Bulit in HD Loader

Built in Cheat device

Network adapter ready (does that mean auto patching?)

Many other features of competitors.

ToxicOS sounds too good.

I think DMS 4 PRO SE is the best, as far as i know. XD


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15. May 2007 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a DMS 4 Pro and i didnt like it cause theres no support anymore... but it dont have auto patching, well if ther is i cant get it to work, also i didnt really care but i have no idea of how to use the built in cheat device. also Toxic OS and Bios is REALLY buggy like when u choose the settings like Force NTSC and crap like that and u save the settings sometimes it freezes saving and u will have to reinstall ToxicOS (this dont happen really often though)Also in the interface u could choose to load the game or read from CD Drive it will say no cd found when there is a cd and i have to eject the disk then put it back in. not sure if its just my PStwo slim version but this happens a lot... But beside few bugs like that DMS aint a bad chip. But i am pissed that there is no support on the chip anymore , no firmware updates for more than a year now and didnt release source code or say bye or anything, just kinda disappear and never heard from again but chips are still producing.
Also these modchips can play backup and imports

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. May 2007 @ 19:32

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15. May 2007 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I also heard that DMS auto patches harddrives to be compatible with games. Like, a normal 3rd party drive could work with FFonline.


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15. May 2007 @ 20:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But finally, should i get DMS4 Pro or Crystal Chip?


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16. May 2007 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you want to play online, go with the Crystal Chip 2.0, since it auto patches the game. If you want to play off a harddrive, get the DMS4Pro. But to use the Harddrive you need to have a older PS2, or up to Version 13. Also so you know, Crystal Chip 2.0 original firmware DOES NOT boot backup. You will need to find the hacked firmware; Also on TM (TeamModders) site. And so you know, DMS4Pro is no longer supported by the group, so no more firmware for it, its as is now. Crystal Chip, will still be worked on, until further notice. As yes, TM does do professional install, I had mine done a few times there. All I can say is, either way you cant go wrong, both plays back up, dual layer, imports, homebrew, online, ect... Only difference is that DMS have a dash (ToxicOS).
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16. May 2007 @ 04:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vcbc, could be your PS2 or could be the chip. Really hard to tell. But i have a V12 with a DMS4 Pro and have never had a problem in the 2 or so years i have had it. My friend has one (that i donated to him) in a V5/6 and he has never had a problem with his either.


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16. May 2007 @ 14:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man i want both online and harddrive... and crystal chip 2.0 dosen't play backups? that's stupid. Why would they make modchips that don't play backups? and does DMS4 PRO SE and crystal chip 2.0 both have HardDrive patching? (for games like FFOnline?)


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16. May 2007 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey kam, steimy :)

Quote:
Also so you know, Crystal Chip 2.0 original firmware DOES NOT boot backup. You will need to find the hacked firmware;
Read FULLY next time! Next line says the firmware is on TM! Selective reading ftw! :/


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16. May 2007 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OmriSama, edit your sig to conform to forum specs ASAP.
4. If you want to use both text and image in your signature the image should not be more than 500 pixels wide and 100 pixels tall, and you can use up to three lines of text.
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16. May 2007 @ 20:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really? ill edit it...


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16. May 2007 @ 20:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL! No, a sig plus 3000 lines of text were well within the limits :P


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16. May 2007 @ 20:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK now im confused. Ill listen to the DDP cuz he's the mod.

Anyway, we've compleatly gone off topic.
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Which chip should i get? Crystal 2.0 or DMS4 Pro SE? they both sound great. Will the latest version of the hacked firmwire let me do alot of things?


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16. May 2007 @ 20:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OmriSama, svtstang is right as you had 15 lines of text plus the picture box that is 20 pixels oversized if using text.
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17. May 2007 @ 03:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Let me make this clear and simple...

I suggest you get the Crystal Chip, because it can play off the harddrive also, but you will need to launch the HDLoader off the memory card or CD, to use it. To play online, you just backup the game, and play as normal, no DNA patching required.

If you get the DMS4Pro, you can play off the harddrive instantly through the ToxicOS, but to play online, you MUST patch the game DNA before you can play online.

The choice is up to you now, as I stated above ( my choice would be the Crystal chip )

Hi Stang, Steimy
 
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