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Burning PS2 Games
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JOWhite
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11. June 2007 @ 22:11 |
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Of course i'm new to this so i need help. i am downloading KHFM from uTorennt and i need to know where it is being DL'd to and what i need to use to dl it. I do have a DVD Writer. What do i need to do to DL it
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12. June 2007 @ 10:28 |
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welcome to afterdawn!
KHFM is a PS2 DVD format game. Thus you really cannot burn it without a DVD writer. but dont despair, dvd writers are cheap, take a look at this samsung for $33 USD HERE
also, is your ps2 modded, or are you going to use swap discs?
~Xomby
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JOWhite
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12. June 2007 @ 11:26 |
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i have Swap Magic. My LaPTOP is a DVD writer
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12. June 2007 @ 12:02 |
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sorry. i really mistook what you meant as you DIDNT have a dvd writer.
my mistake.
burning the game to dvd really depends on the format of the copy.
can you give us a filelist?
eg, just list the contents of the (probably archived) files.
then we can difinitively tell you what you need.
~Xomby
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JOWhite
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12. June 2007 @ 16:29 |
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all of the files are ISO's ( i think). I use WinAce to extract the rar files but it freezes up before it even tries to extract. Should i use WinRAR instead?
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12. June 2007 @ 22:54 |
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yea, its worth a shot. chances are that the .rar was compressed with a higher version of WinRAR than your version of winAce can handle.
if its just a .iso, then you can use any burning software that handles .iso images, just make sure its running with the "disc at once" setting.
eg: Nero, alchohol 120%, some other software that someone swears by.
as long as it handles .iso formats, it should work.
IMPORTANT: I would be an idiot if i didn't mention this, but make sure you burn it at AT MOST half(1/2) of the rated speed of the DVD media, if not less. IE if it says its 16x go with 8x, apparently 4x or less is preferred. This helps avoid making coasters as the lasers in most PS2 (ESPECIALLY SLIMLINE) are really dodgy (read as picky).
~Xomby
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13. June 2007 @ 08:51 |
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apparently 4x or less is preferred.
Just passing by. You're right about burning at half the rated speed of your media, especially for PS2 games. However, any lower than 4x can also cause errors as burning too lsow has the same effect as burning too fast.
People do burn their PS2 games @ 1x (a few i think), but that's ridiculously slow.
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13. June 2007 @ 10:47 |
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so 4x is the "best" speed to burn at? or is it completely media dependant?
~Xomby
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HG27
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13. June 2007 @ 10:50 |
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4X is the speed I burn at, and it has yet to fail me.
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13. June 2007 @ 11:05 |
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Originally posted by Xomby:
so 4x is the "best" speed to burn at? or is it completely media dependant?
Well, 4x has always been the "standard" speed, if you will. People are burning 16x discs at up to 18x now-a-days with decent results, but that's cos they're show offs ;-)
I burn my dvds at 4x :-)
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Z3120
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13. June 2007 @ 20:25 |
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It also depends how big the game is, what brand of DVDs are you using, how well your burner performs with an updated firmware and so forth. DVD media brands can be a big decisive factor in what games you're trying to get working because as far as I know and experience, using bad quality brands on huge games, those around 4 gigabytes, assures a failure to boot or quite noticeable problems. It also depends what PS2 version you are using too because the multiple versions of PS2s out there do have different lasers installed in them like for example, when the slim PS2 can't even boot a game, a fat PS2 might be able to although with problems. Also, knowing media IDs of the DVDs you're buying, which you should be aware of, is important too in the process of ensuring quality burns like the difference between the quality of a Memorex CMC MAG with a TDK CMC MAG.
And like someone or some have said already, burning them too fast and too slow tend to usually have negative results but burning them really fast/slow could be good for an exceptional few so it really varies in some extremely rare cases. As for 16x DVDs, the only ones I'll ever suggest are Verbatim, but I practically never use Verbatim 16x DVDs besides as data discs because I've been happily content with my 8x Taiyo Yuden DVDs for my games.
Reason why I don't have much faith in other 16x DVDs besides Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim are because other brands, even those Sony 16x DVDs, hardly perform as well as the 2 brands I've liked especially with games that require burning around the 4 gigabyte area. If your game is a good 3 gigabytes or so, it's hardly a problem but burning games like Final Fantasy 12, Tales of the Abyss and Valkyrie Profile Silmeria have all ended up with bad performances when I use Sony in general so I decided to upgrade and have been content ever since. The only games I remember that did well with Sony when I first started was Tales of Destiny 2 and Tales of Destiny (remake), both games which are about 3.5 gigabytes.
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14. June 2007 @ 11:39 |
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and NEVER EVER under any circumstances use disc tatoo (burns visible images on the data side) on your ps2 dvds... saw a buddy of mine do it and when he popped it into his slimline, it sounded like a jet engine and started spewing out this acrid green smoke.
ok... thats a blatant lie... but it could probably happen ;]=
~Xomby
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Z3120
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14. June 2007 @ 12:29 |
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Originally posted by Xomby:
and NEVER EVER under any circumstances use disc tatoo (burns visible images on the data side) on your ps2 dvds... saw a buddy of mine do it and when he popped it into his slimline, it sounded like a jet engine and started spewing out this acrid green smoke.
ok... thats a blatant lie... but it could probably happen ;]=
I second that motion. Most notably, those HP DVDs people tend to buy are horrible yet people still buy them. I actually think Memorex CMC MAGs are better than those HP DVDs, but both are already horrible as they are so it's hard to say if any can be or will be better because of the infrequent consistencies both will give you.
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14. June 2007 @ 12:45 |
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Very good, knowledgable reply Z3120 - we could do with more people like you posting in the DVD forums. :-)
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14. June 2007 @ 16:02 |
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infrequent consistency vs frequent inconsistency
FIGHT!
i just lit my goatee on fire with an overheating dual shock controller.....................
ooooh... i forgot i modded it to have a cig lighter in one side instead of a vibrating motor... doh >,<
someone want to explain how the PS2 knows the difference between DVD-5 and DVD-R? ahah... more to the point, what is the difference between the file placement on pressed discs as opposed to burnt discs and why the heck can't we burn it the same way? I remember a legend about certain CD-r's with certain firmwares that were able to attain a 1:1 copy of PSX games... this is where our efforts should be, running the mod-chip companies into the ground and free-ing ourselves of the shoddy mass-produced half-assedly flashed silicon wart-removers that are flooding the market.
im not saying i cant handle a modchip... i still buy my mod chips unwired and wire them myself, gives me more control over their final mounting point. But there just isnt much information available on the differences and the apparent reasons behind the differences (between commercially pressed and home burnt). I know that HK Silver's wouldnt run on my psx without a mod chip. even though i BELIEVE they were pressed, not burnt. so whats the deal.
~Xomby
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14. June 2007 @ 23:27 |
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Yes they are pressed, and during that pressing stage *I think* (i'm going on something I may have read a while back here - it could be complete BS) they [the discs] have something embedded into them which make the PS2 differentiate them from the rest.
^_^
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JOWhite
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16. June 2007 @ 10:30 |
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I'm using Memorex DVD+RW's, and i tried burning them at half-speed with Alcohol 120% but it didnt work
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16. June 2007 @ 10:46 |
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half speed = crap
lowest speed = yes
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16. June 2007 @ 10:49 |
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disk tatoo lol
I'm glad I'm Notyu
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JOWhite
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16. June 2007 @ 11:09 |
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actually that was the lowest speed (2.3x to be exact).
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Z3120
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17. June 2007 @ 02:31 |
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Originally posted by JOWhite:
I'm using Memorex DVD+RW's, and i tried burning them at half-speed with Alcohol 120% but it didnt work
Unless those Memorex code out as Riteks using this, it's not really a surprise why it wouldn't boot no matter what speed you burnt it on although even if it did boot, you'll probably end up with horrible visuals, slowdowns, apparent loading times that are long and infrequently longer load times at spontaneous places and so forth with Memorex DVD-RWS CMC MAGs. I'm guessing CMC MAGs are your media ID. Also, don't use any RWs when burning games for your PS2. It's torture for your PS2 using bad quality brands (depending on their media IDs) along with RWs. So using both in a combination isn't pretty for you and your PS2. (Sorry about the attitude if it sounds like I have one.)
Try doing a media brand switch like Sony since it's usually nearby. If I had to suggest the only 16x DVD-R or 16x DVD+R you should should would be Verbatim by a long shot in a good way. I found 16x Sony DVDs to be of horrible quality when I want to play games around the 4.2 gigabyte mark.
Originally posted by Ripper:
Very good, knowledgable reply Z3120 - we could do with more people like you posting in the DVD forums. :-)
I'll keep that in mind although I doubt I know enough to suggest what's better between Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim =D Although that kind of discussion really is more of a personal preference, experience, hardware specs, computer configuration and so forth rather than who puts the better top quality out on the market but both are top-tier quality DVD brands, which I also would suggest to the Topic Creator of this thread. I think Taiyo Yuden also produces under the Verbatim and Sony name, most notably, the TYG03s for Verbatim I believe?
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17. June 2007 @ 08:39 |
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The main difference between good and bad media is the way it was produced and what quality of dye was used in the manufacture.
Taiyo Yuden don't produce under the names verbatom and sony as such..
Both Sony and Verbatim manufacture their own discs (or have companies make them for them, like MCC - Mitsubishi Chemical Corp for Verb). However, sometime they sell Taiyo Yuden manufactured discs under their own name.
In Verbatim's case, both YUDEN000T003 (DVD+R 16x) and TYG03 (DVD-R 16x) Taiyo discs are sold under their brand, but only in the UK.
Sony's old 8x DVD+R discs code out as YUDEN000T02 but they are very unlikely to be found anywhere now-a-days.
Hope you followed that. Ask for clarification if you don't. :-)
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Z3120
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17. June 2007 @ 12:55 |
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Ahh thanks, I was hoping someone would answer it one day if I kept leaving it out there for someone to answer such as yourself thankfully =P.
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17. June 2007 @ 12:58 |
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No problem, glad i could help :-)
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