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briansolo
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21. July 2007 @ 15:04 |
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i notice that many burners' specs state that they can burn DVD-R DL as well as DVD+R DL. however, all i've ever seen for sale are the +R DLs, which do not play on the main DVD player in our house.
commercially made movie DVDs that are dual layered DO play on the main home player. i'm assuming these are DVD-R DLs.
i want to burn content on DVD-R DLs. where can i buy blank DVD-R DL discs? anywhere?
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bbruno
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22. July 2007 @ 04:47 |
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You know...I am having the same problems with the +R myself. Just posted about it. You can find the -R online. I could not find them at Staples either...my wife asked them about it...and they said they have never heard of a DVD-R DL.
I can get the +R to burn just fine...but like you, they will not play on my players.
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vamsilak
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22. July 2007 @ 07:46 |
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hi guys
iam glad to help u guys
same problem faced
go to microcenter.com
usually they carry -dl's
i stockem up
don't put more than a buck for dick
that my point of view
next thing milk ur blank until thankgiving
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22. July 2007 @ 12:10 |
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Have you tried setting the booktype to the DL DVD+Rs to DVD-ROM? That may help. You can't really compare DVD-Rs or +Rs to retail DVDs, because those are pressure and not burned. It's a totally different process.
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b18bek9
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22. July 2007 @ 13:56 |
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dvd-r DL i've seen running for like 5$ a disc tho....i've only seen dvd-r DL on 2 websites and not in any store probably because of the high price per disc's......
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22. July 2007 @ 15:40 |
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Store bought movies are booktyped to DVD Rom. That's why they play in almost everything. Since they are booktyped to DVD Rom, they must use DVD +R DL discs for commercial movies. Only +R, +RW and +R DL discs can be booktyped!
Here is info on booktyping:
http://www.k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php
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22. July 2007 @ 18:54 |
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Quote:
don't put more than a buck for dick
that my point of view
Sorry, couldn't resist, thanks for the info about -R DL disks, like the other responders, thought they only made +R DL (Verbatim and Ritek)
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29. July 2007 @ 18:12 |
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hehehe.. blivet is right , something just seems wrong here. buy the way, booktyping should do the trick.
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briansolo
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29. July 2007 @ 19:56 |
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yeah, i tried changing the booktype setting to dvd-rom, but still no luck.
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30. July 2007 @ 04:15 |
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We have a Sony DVD player which does not like any 16X media, and struggles thru most of the +R varieties, booktyped to DVD-ROM as well as non booktyped. You may have a similar unit which only likes the slower -R media.
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JoeRyan
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30. July 2007 @ 10:48 |
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DVD players cannot tell the disc speed because they do not read those portions of the ADIP or lead-in sections of discs. If the Sony DVD player is not reading the 16X discs well, then the recordings on them vary from the recordings made on 8X media. It may be jitter or reflectivity rather than PIE or PIF/POF problems and not typically evident in a scan. That would indicate a problem with the recording quality from the combination of disc/drive.
On the other hand, it may also be that the Sony DVD player is on the outer limit of a critical tolerance value and the problem is not a at all recording issue.
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30. July 2007 @ 12:50 |
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Originally posted by JVC:
Store bought movies are booktyped to DVD Rom. That's why they play in almost everything. Since they are booktyped to DVD Rom, they must use DVD +R DL discs for commercial movies. Only +R, +RW and +R DL discs can be booktyped!
Here is info on booktyping:
http://www.k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php
Yes listen to this man. also commercial movies are not burned but pressed as DVD-ROM. If you get +R DL and book type to DVD-ROM, your dvd player won't be able to tell difference between commercial and burnt media.
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briansolo
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30. July 2007 @ 15:11 |
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thanks, burningas, i understand that. however, the fact remains that i have the booktype set to dvd-rom, and it makes no difference. the dvd will not play on the main home player, which is also a -r recorder, which i believe just refuses to play a burned +r dl.
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30. July 2007 @ 15:22 |
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See if there are firmware updates for your player(s).......
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30. July 2007 @ 18:33 |
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Originally posted by briansolo:
thanks, burningas, i understand that. however, the fact remains that i have the booktype set to dvd-rom, and it makes no difference. the dvd will not play on the main home player, which is also a -r recorder, which i believe just refuses to play a burned +r dl.
that's werid. all dvd players should play DVD-ROMs-that's what they are made for! are you sure you booktyped it? AND your dvd drive is ABLE to booktype DVD+R DL discs?
a lot of times in nero or whatever, you can select booktype to ROM even when your drive doesn't have the capabilities to do so.
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30. July 2007 @ 18:38 |
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I concur, The Sony in question, as well as a Philips DVD standalone will not play DVD+R DL disks which are booktyped to DVD-ROM. No firmware updates are available. The Philips will play any DVD-R disk, irregardless of the speed, but the Sony doesn't like the newer, faster media, specifically 16X or daster either +R or -R. I don't know why, it just is.
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briansolo
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30. July 2007 @ 19:22 |
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burning as:
yeah, i check it every time before i burn to make sure it's set to dvd-rom. i use dvd decrypter for my burning, and it makes great discs with dvd shrink.
but yeah, it doesn't work on the standalone for some reason. it'll play on any other standalone in the house, but oh well.
oh, and quick tip for blivetNC, irregardless is not a word. just say regardless ;)
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30. July 2007 @ 19:29 |
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irregardless
One entry found for irregardless.
Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/irregardless
I still like the word =) regaredless if you like it, irregardless if you don't.
You might also want to try IMGBurn for burning, same guy wrote the program, but unlike Decypter, it is updated, Irregardless of Sony's actions
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. July 2007 @ 19:39
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briansolo
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30. July 2007 @ 19:45 |
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i'd take your dictionary's advice. irregardless just sounds stupid. i'm not flaming you, i just hate the way that word sounds.
imgburn? i've got it; i'll give it a shot. thanks.
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30. July 2007 @ 19:48 |
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Nope, still like the word.
You say Tomahto, I say Tomatoe, let's call the whole thing off...
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briansolo
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30. July 2007 @ 21:15 |
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sounds good blivetNC...i'll let you know if the dang discs will play after i write a dvd-rom disc w/imgburn. later!
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1. August 2007 @ 18:17 |
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how old is your stand alone dvd player?
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briansolo
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1. August 2007 @ 19:43 |
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just about 2 years old.
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2. August 2007 @ 09:01 |
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I have an older Sony DVD player also. Using quality Verbatim DL+ discs burned @ 2.4 and Booktyped DVD+DL to DVD-Rom and none of these will play in it. Benq 1650 with latest BCIC firmware update and Sony player will not play any of my Verbatim DVD+DL discs. IMGburn shows booktype changed properly to DVD-Rom but none of my dual layered + Verbatim discs will play. Sorry, but I believe booktyping is somewhat over rated here at Afterdawn. I have 5 other players at home and at work and all will play any of my Verbatim DVD+DL discs without the need for booktyping the media with the exception of this older Sony player. I purchased the Benq burner because I read so much hoopla about the need for booktyping my DVD+ media for older players here at Afterdawn. Maybe booktyping helps some but my experience with it has proven to be useless. I know that booktyping is suppose to fool your player into thinking the disc is a DVD-Rom making it more compatible, however, I guess my older Sony player is apparently not easily fooled.
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JoeRyan
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6. August 2007 @ 09:06 |
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When you say the Verbatim DVD+R DL with the altered book type "don't play," do you mean that the players will fail to recognize the disc? Or do they fail to go beyond the menu? Or do they just fail to make the transition jump? I can understand how they would not make the transition, but there is something wrong if they cannot even show the menu or move to chapter one.
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