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av_3000
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19. November 2003 @ 04:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I am trying to run the game, I am getting a message which says "This game requires a video card with a minimum of 32MB VRAM and programmable Vertex/Pixel Shader support. The application will now close."

I have a GeForce 4 460MX with the updated drivers. I have installed the denotaor 5.16 thing but still no luck with it.

Can anyone help me?
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19. November 2003 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As per the other thread, if the game requires a programmable shader than you cant use a GF4MX. Period. Driver versions are not going to overcome a hardware limitation.

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19. November 2003 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there any possibility that Konami could release a patch that bypasses the need for programmable shading?
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19. November 2003 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is possible however HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Why? Because to do so would be to shoot themselves in the foot. Marketing-wse, what sells a game is its graphics and details. Programmable shaders allow for some seriously advanced and fancy looking visuals and to remove the requirement for programmable shaders would be to remove anything that makes a game look good. It's possible -- but i dont see it happening :|

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19. November 2003 @ 19:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I wouldn't have thought that'd definitely be the case as many games have fairly good graphics without the need for programmable shading. Granted, the graphics wouldn't be AS good as a game with, but it certainly wouldn't be overly detrimental to the quality of the game. And also, it could simply be a case of if the consumer doesn't have the goods, you can play it but it won't look as good which is the consumer's own problem.

Or maybe it's just wishful thinking.
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19. November 2003 @ 20:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That line of thinking used to work before programmable shaders hit the mainstream (with the GF3)... nVidia made a stupid when they didnt pack the GF4MX with at least 1 (even crappy) programmable shader.

Also, that line of thinking used to work because all the games were based off one or two major graphics engines but now that programmable shaders are available and DX8+ is common, many companies have their own engines and such. YYou can always try to email the company and see where that goes.

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19. November 2003 @ 20:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Email NVidia or email Konami? And Silent Hill 3 is the first game I've found that doesn't work because of programmable shading. Is Silent Hill 3 really that good (And I'm looking for you to lie and say no here so I don't feel bad!)
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20. November 2003 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Email konami. There is nothing that can be done by nVida. And "yes Silent Hill 3 really is that good"

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20. November 2003 @ 21:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

GEFORCE 4 MX WORKING PERFECTLY!



First, download 3d-analyze v2.26 I did a google search for it and found it. Install and run.

Second, In File selection, MUST Link all three dll path, exe and pre runexe with sh3.exe

Third, In Hardware Limits(cap bits), below three options must be checked: emulate pixel shader caps,emulate bump map caps.emulate max sim textures and In anti-detect mode, two options also must be checked:shaders and textures.

and run YOUR SILENT HILL3 IN GEFORCE 4 MX CARD PERFECTLY!!
I USE DETONATOR 45.23 version and working very well...
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20. November 2003 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Awesome -- from what you have described this seems to be a viable and working solution/workaround. Realize however that the duties normally performed by a dedicated programmable shader are now being done by the CPU in addition to all the other crap it has to do anyways...

In any case good job! :-)

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21. November 2003 @ 03:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice one! Great job. Mine works too now. Only thing is, it's really grainy the first level or so. And I mean really grainy. Is that how the game actually is or is that graphical problems again? For all I know, there may just be loads of fog in the first level!
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21. November 2003 @ 05:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a problem with this game....it starts.....but it crashes when it writes "this game has strong violence...blah".....it freezes!! i have a grforce fx 5200 with latest drivers
what shall i do??
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22. November 2003 @ 09:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Nice one! Great job. Mine works too now. Only thing is, it's really grainy the first level or so. And I mean really grainy. Is that how the game actually is or is that graphical problems again? For all I know, there may just be loads of fog in the first level!
What MaxPowerz was suggesting is a workaround -there are bound to be costs - and that was one of them. :S

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24. November 2003 @ 14:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

I have a Geforce 4 MX 440 128MB 8x AGP, which seemed like a good idea about 4 months ago when I bought it, but even with 128 on-card RAM, it still can't run SH3. The error is the same one as mentioned in this thread.

Anyways, I see that a workaround is available, but my only question is, what is DETONATOR 45.23 and is the workaround applicable for my card?

Lotsa thanks. I'm really eager to play SH3 since I don't have a PS2, and I already finished SH2 on the pc without any problems at all.

Isn't it annoying to discover that something you just recently bought is already obsolete?_

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25. November 2003 @ 03:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey can anyone help me i have a problem with this game i use 3d analyze and it works but then i open the game and then it show me the woman in red picture there is one sentence about cruel, and the game stops. It break....:( What should I do???
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25. November 2003 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nutzies
Detonator 45.23 is the name of nVidia's graphics drivers, version 45.23 (a good build I might add)

alfonsas
You may find that some games start up fine, play the intro movie and then suddenly crash. Microsoft has acknowledged this problem and released a fix for it, you can grab the fix at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327979

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26. November 2003 @ 02:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i had the same problem....sentence about cruel, and the game stops. It breaks!! But i have reinstalled widows xp...with direct x 9.0b and the latest drivers from nvidia: detonator 52.?..
and now it work just fine...no update....no 3d analize...i use ge force fx 5200.
On windows millenium was an error saying that the game needs 32 mb VRAM and pixel programming...or something like that...but on xp...it works just fine(the way i mentioned earlyer)
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26. November 2003 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I am trying to run the game, I am getting a message which says "This game requires a video card with a minimum of 32MB VRAM and programmable Vertex/Pixel Shader support. The application will now close."

i have geforce 2 mx400 and
Can anyone help me?
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26. November 2003 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have Athlon XP 2100,512 DDRAm,Radeon 9600Pro 128MB, and also a serius problem!!!!
Silent hills crushes at the first screen with the infoabout violence!It's just freez!This is cruel

PEACE!
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27. November 2003 @ 07:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DEATH2005: If you read the rest of this post as well as some of the other posts then you would already be aware of the available workaround.
You can read more about it here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/56669

papoys: You may find that some games start up fine, play the intro movie and then suddenly crash. Microsoft has acknowledged this problem and released a fix for it, you can grab the fix at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327979

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29. November 2003 @ 02:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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29. November 2003 @ 02:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okey,
I think i need to update my video card
which cards does silent hill 3 work with them
does geforce4 128mb suffice to play silent hill3
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29. November 2003 @ 08:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As long as it isnt the MX series than you are fine.

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1. December 2003 @ 01:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the same problem with papoys.
The game crash on Violent and Cruel screen
I downloaded Microsofts Fix you mentioned but nothing happened!!!!
I try several nVidia Drivers!!

Anybody can help me???

P.S
Same problem occurs on Konamis Pro Evolution Soccer 3. But I fix it by Deleting(!!!!) "cafe"
file, which was the intro.
What File is the intro in SH3?Might work if i delete this file too!!

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1. December 2003 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello! I didn't repair that problem...I'm very sad :(( But my friend can play with MX2 440 and with 3s analyzer, but he can't see anything...then he plays, he can hear also sounds, but screen is dark :((( there are only foggy dark place.help! what's wrong????
 
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