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Elghin
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6. August 2002 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I burn audio cd's. Upwards of 300+ a day. I'm a DJ.

Anyway, The latest version of Nero is killing me. I have 3 burners in my system. All are TDK 24/10/40 burners.

I can make the text CD that nero creates to test the burner's speed. I can copy that, with all three burners at the same time in about 5 minutes. No problems...

But now that I have 5.5.9.0, all of a sudden, when I try to burn straight audio tracs from a CD, (and I'm not burning on the fly, I'm creating an image and then burning to all the at the same time) I get about 200 buffer under-run errors.

I'm really confused, because the Nero Test CD still burns perfectly... I can kick 3 of them out all at once in just over 3 minutes. The audio cd's are now taking anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes because of the outrageous under run errors...

Please help. I've made every system tweak known to man to try and solve the problem... It's almost as if Nero has suddenly decided to change the burn format for audio...

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Racemann
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7. August 2002 @ 20:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Small world.

I've got a TDK 24/10/40 but in the "B" version using SmartBURN, therefore it's manufactured by LiteON [confirmed by TDK when I emailed them].

There was still the "X" version using BurnPROOF made by Sanyo.

Anyways, I found Nero 5.590 gave me error messages when I do DAE, so I went back to 5.582 so all is well.
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13. August 2002 @ 09:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I likewise seem to have found that Nero 5.5.9.0 is slow as compared to 5.5.8.2

Where do you get your blank CDRs??
How much per blank CDR do they cost???

I would like to know where I can get bulk quantities of CDRs at low prices --- Thanks

Racemann
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13. August 2002 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I live in Canada so I would guess that there's a pretty good chance you're from the US.

I get CD-R's from local vendors, let me know if you're interested though.... I pay a bit more but for quality media.

I think there are several threads on bargain CD's and where to get them.

You can also check out http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB to see where other people get their media from.
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Yeme3
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13. August 2002 @ 18:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks.... I'll check-out your references..... I just buy the cheap CDRs, usually at ten-cents a platter.... I only use the CDRs for backups of my hard drives and for albums for teenagers..... I make several copies, so if a CD goes bad after a few years, I have a replacement.....It is my understanding that, on occassion, a cheap CDR may go bad after some years, while others have noted that, on the cheap CDRs, the dye may be thin at the outer edge of the disk (hence, some skipping there)..... But I have yet to experience any such problems with my Sanyo burner.

The difference in sound quality of black, blue, red, orange, or green (or whatever color) CDRs versus the cheap silver CDRs is probably more a fictitious than a factual argument......Most have forgotten that when CDs first came out, there was great criticism that they sounded quite harsh to those with Golden Ears......The Golden Ears were correct because of two considerations.....1) CDs use a brick-wall filter at 20-22KHz --- which G. Slot found to be a "no-no" if one wanted to preserve high quality music..... See his tests on partially-deaf subjects in the below referenced book and his recommendation that one should never use filter roll-offs greater tha 6 dB per Octave.....2) CDs are based on the Nyquest sampling theorem that a little over two samples per cycle is enough to establish the cycle's frequency and amplitude......This is true --- but only for infinite sampling of a stationary random signal --- which obviously is not appropriate for music, as music is neither stationary nor random nor of infinite duration.......In Engineering, one samples at five (minimum) or ten (preferred) samples per cycle to accurately establish a signal's frequency and amplitude......For example, to accuately establish the dominating frequencies (and their amplitudes) in a aircraft jet exhaust in the frequency range 16KHz to 20KHz, most engineers would sample at 100,000 to 200,000 samples per second --- and thus totally discarding that sampling crteria used in CDs

Reference book:
Audio Quality: Requirements For High Quality Audio Equipment
Author: G. Slot 1971
Published: 1972 by Drake Publishers, Inc., 381 Park Avenue, New York, New York

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