xbox vrs pc
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damo_red
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24. November 2003 @ 03:35 |
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hi can any one please tell me how halo looks so good on the pc. i have the game for the xbox and the graphics are ace but the game is on a dvd how the hell does halo look so good on the pc when its on a cd there is a great differnce of space between the disks.
is there some way they compress the games. im wondering because im deciding wether to get max payne 2 for the pc or the xbox.
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24. November 2003 @ 09:30 |
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What are your PC specs? It is more likely that your PC puts the xbox Pentium 3 733 with 8Gb hard drive to shame. Also the video card on the Xbox is not the best. Thus why Xbox2 will be with in a year to impove the situation. PC's still kill console systems.
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damo_red
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25. November 2003 @ 09:08 |
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amd athlon 2400 Xp
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25. November 2003 @ 20:26 |
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Quote: Thus why Xbox2 will be with in a year to impove the situation
Unfortunatle for consolers, (a) almost all console technology is a hand-my-down from the PC world and (b) your video is still limited to a TV :P ... a low resolution one at that :P
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damo_red
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26. November 2003 @ 06:12 |
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so would i be best getting max payne 2 on the pc or xbox
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26. November 2003 @ 08:26 |
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To actually answer your question. I would buy it for the PC. That makes it more versitle and you can set what to see and what you want running to slow down game play. Rather than being pissed that your console can't handle the game to how you would want to see it.
I don't own any console sytem. Well not fully true, I do own a Gameboy (one of the first ones) and a GameGear (Sega). But thats because Portable Computers really sucked in the 90's.
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damo_red
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26. November 2003 @ 09:15 |
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thanks very much ill get the pc version
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mgb0101
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26. November 2003 @ 15:20 |
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And Max Payne 2 is much easier to control using a keyboard and mouse. The game requires some fast\precise aiming, and using a console pad to do it would suck.
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damo_red
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26. November 2003 @ 21:40 |
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i was also wondering if any one could explain to me why pc games are on cd and console games are on dvd but just as good or even better. it seems a bit starnge to me or are the pc games actually on dvd disks.
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#afonic
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27. November 2003 @ 00:34 |
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I guess PC games are compressed, and that's why they take less space. In the other hand you have to install the game before you play it. And usually console games don't use all the 4GB of a DVD.
About the PC - XBox, PC is better (without PCs there where not going to be PS2 or XBox, where will they make the games? :-)
Generally games for the consoles are coded better because they know the hardware they use exactly and they all play fine, when in PC I've seen a P4 3Ghz with 5900Ultra being slow while playing some new games with full detail!
Is you GeForce a real one, or an MX version? If it is MX I suggest you get Max Payne in the XBox!
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damo_red
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27. November 2003 @ 06:25 |
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yes its real would i need a better one for it though becuase that was a high spec computer there that you said wasent playing the game in full detail proparly.
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#afonic
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28. November 2003 @ 03:26 |
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My PC is P4 1,6GHz, 512MB RAM, and Geforce 4 Ti4200 . It plays OK at 1024x768 with all details at full.
But if you have Geforce4 MX it will not play that well.
How long do you have the XBox? You should had played Halo already, it rocks!
About a new video card, a GeforceFX 5900 Ultra is about 400-500 Euro when the Xbox with 2 games included (and Halo one of them!) costs 200 Euro. You can make the comparison.
Actually Microsoft loses money each time someone buys an XBox!
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28. November 2003 @ 05:54 |
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Microsoft used to lose money on every Xbox, but now the cost of P3 chips is so cheap that they are not lossing money. Right now at future shop or Dell you can get a P4 computer for $500 with monitor, printer, ete. So the first release of Xbox when P4 were coming out, they were loosing money. But now that P4 are a thing of the past and people are buying 800Mhz Front side bus, the cost is really cheap. I would say that the PC is still better, because you can put as much or as little money in the sytem as you want. For slightly better specs than the Xbox, a PC its cheaper and can be used for more than just games.
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28. November 2003 @ 07:58 |
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Quote: About a new video card, a GeforceFX 5900 Ultra is about 400-500 Euro when the Xbox with 2 games included (and Halo one of them!) costs 200 Euro.
Not everyone needs a GFX5900U ... although I may be lucky enough to acquire one in the short time coming :P
Quote: For slightly better specs than the Xbox, a PC its cheaper and can be used for more than just games.
Second that! :-)
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damo_red
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28. November 2003 @ 08:29 |
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which one do you suggest
ASUS GE-FORCE "FX5900 ,"128MB", DDR,MOD-V9950SE.TD/P/128M/A,RETAIL BOXED. £245.00
SPARKLE GE-FORCE FX 5900, 128MB, PLATINUM,IN LARGE TIN,SP8835PT128,RETAIL BOXED £299.00
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Toiletman
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29. November 2003 @ 12:10 |
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I would suggest you get the XBOX one. It was orginally made for the PC, but it came out on XBOX first due to MS's $$$$. I think the game is suited more to a console than the PC.
Quote: your video is still limited to a TV :P ... a low resolution one at that :P
But, computers don't have 61 inch screens do they??? :P
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29. November 2003 @ 12:38 |
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if you got a 61 inch screen,chances are you can hook up your computer via dvi to it,so yes
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29. November 2003 @ 13:48 |
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Also A computer you can connect a projector to and have a 300 inch sceen. Its fun walking down the streets of Tronto and see the people that display games and movies on the side of buildings at night.
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#afonic
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30. November 2003 @ 01:58 |
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Well I am about to get an ATI Radeon 9600pro, and it is true that a 5900Ultra is not needed.
What I wanted to say is that Xbox is VERY cheap.
Quote: For slightly better specs than the Xbox, a PC its cheaper and can be used for more than just games.
A PC with slightly better specs than Xbox is not cheaper than Xbox, Xbox is 200Euro people!!
And of course a PC with that specs cannot play any game of the past year.
What I said, and I think that you will agree, is that if all that you want to do is play video games then get an Xbox or PS2.
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1. December 2003 @ 06:36 |
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Well in Canada the cheapes I have seen a Xbox for is about $250 plus or minus 20 depending on store. An xbox is a P3 733 (intel chip) with 8Gb hard disk and DVD drive. The only thing going for it is the custum video card.
Now I saw this weekend a P3 1.2Ghz, 40Gb hard drive, 256Mb Ram, DVD-rom comupter for $249 at Computer Fest in Tonto. Now there was no monitor, but all the specs when compared directly to the xbox were better. I cant remeber what video card was on it, but it wasnt crap. So I still stand by what I say. Cheaper and better specs.
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2. December 2003 @ 06:14 |
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Quote: Now I saw this weekend a P3 1.2Ghz, 40Gb hard drive, 256Mb Ram, DVD-rom comupter for $249 at Computer Fest in Tonto. Now there was no monitor, but all the specs when compared directly to the xbox were better. I cant remeber what video card was on it, but it wasnt crap. So I still stand by what I say. Cheaper and better specs.
DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMITT!!!!! I knew I had somewhere to go!!!!! Noooooooooooooo!! :-) Seriously though, if you bought just parts and put it together you can easily get quadrouple the perf. for that cost, probably less.
Quote: But, computers don't have 61 inch screens do they??? :P
No but they've got a 200 inch one.... does that count? Or do i need to use the second vga-out and connect another projector to it? 'sides.... the dot pitch on a tv is garbage -- no comparison whatsoever to a CRT. ffs you can SEE the damn pixels! Oh... and by the way, can XBOX's connect multiple, tv's even, to one console?
Quote: if you got a 61 inch screen,chances are you can hook up your computer via dvi to it,so yes
If you's got a 61 inch screen you should have saved your money and got a used triple-tube projector instead :P
Quote: And of course a PC with that specs cannot play any game of the past year.
1. Not entirely true.
2. There is NO WAY IN HELL one can fairly compare an XBOX game up to a PC game...
- You play on a TV screen.... you get shitty graphics by the nature of a tv
- You get shitty graphics by nature of XBOX games
- You dont have enough bloddy buttons :P
- Take UT2K3 for instance: you have the option of playing with a bazillion different resolutions on a computer and what options does one have for an XBOX?
3. Prisoner was just giving an example.... if one did one's research (hehe bad grammar), you'd note that for $300 CAD you can get yourself a system that will .... hmm... whats an appropriate word.... annihilate an xbox any day of the week.
4. Did i mention low resolution, high dotpitch and crappy graphics?
5. Jedi Knight Academy isnt available for XBOX
6. I looked at KOTOR for XBOX and I nearly cried. What the XBOX did to KOTOR graphics-wise was a CRIME. An absolute crime! (of course, it could have been the TV).
7. You can always connect your computer to a TV and play on crappier graphics if one chooses to. Can't exactly connect an XBOX to a CRT and get better graphics
8. Did I mention, not enough buttons?
Quote: So I still stand by what I say. Cheaper and better specs.
Oh and you forgot something.... far more useful in all respects.
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2. December 2003 @ 14:52 |
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get both..
build a sweet system and mod an xbox!
problem solved!
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2. December 2003 @ 16:53 |
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I have kind of wondered that if people like us are arguing over which to buy. Why doesn`t Microsoft (the software company) realese a software program in say WinXP or Win2003 that would emulate an Xbox. You build what ever system you want and can buy the games and play on your computer. All you would need is a DVDrom drive.
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Praetor
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3. December 2003 @ 01:15 |
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Hehe XBOX games.... hehe... *snicker* Look what XBOX did to KOTOR. 'nuff said. Seriously though, if they did that, the worlds MASS PIRACY come to mind real fast :P
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3. December 2003 @ 18:02 |
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FUCK PRAETOR!!!! NEED I SAY MORE?!!!!!!!!!
Fuck dRD!!!!
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