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Dump image of a Pandora's stick
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luzumsuz
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10. November 2007 @ 13:31 |
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For God's sake...
Could someone give me a raw dump image of a pandora's memory stick. I need it to unbrick my PSP slim.
I have a Pandora's battery. But, (don't ask how) I bricked my slim AND I erased the Memory Stick. So, I have no way to create a new memory stick, and no other PSP.
If you have a magic stick and have access to Linux or Mac machine you can create the magic image file by the following commands:
dd if=/dev/STICK | gzip - > image.gz
where STICK is the device pointing the memory stick (I assume you know what that means). This will create a compressed raw image of the magic stick. Then, please let me know how I can get it.
I am pulling my hair at the moment. So, please!!!!
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11. November 2007 @ 01:30 |
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a dump of the magic memory stick will do you no good. it MUST BE installed onto the memory stick, not copy and paste.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 01:46 |
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Can you elaborate? Why not? A memory stick created by others can work, right? A bit-by-bit copy of the memory stick will be identical to the original one. What else is needed. It would be nice if you give some reason with your answer.
Thank you.
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11. November 2007 @ 01:47 |
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Get A Card Reader and use it on ur computer to reinstall the files on the card.
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 01:51 |
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Ooo! Maybe, you though I am asking the files on the memory stick. That is not I am asking. I am asking the raw dump of it, from MBR till the end...
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 01:54 |
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Originally posted by SL7Rips:
Get A Card Reader and use it on ur computer to reinstall the files on the card.
I have a card reader. But how can I crate msipl.bin without a PSP. Is there an instruction that lays out the steps of creating pandora's stick without a PSP?
Thank you.
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11. November 2007 @ 01:58 |
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the msipl.bin file is a sony file, therefore illegal to distribute. also, an exact copy wouldn't work because the files are not installed onto your memory stick. copy and install are two different things.
you don't even need a psp for the magic memory stick anymore. google for totalnewbi installer. it will do everything for you.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 02:11 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
you don't even need a psp for the magic memory stick anymore. google for totalnewbi installer. it will do everything for you.
Thank you for "totalnewbi installer" hint. I'll look into that. As for your previous claims: First, you say a dump will not work:
Originally posted by cee43ja1:
a dump of the magic memory stick will do you no good. it MUST BE installed onto the memory stick, not copy and paste.
Then, you say it is illegal.
Originally posted by cee43ja1:
the msipl.bin file is a sony file, therefore illegal to distribute. also, an exact copy wouldn't work because the files are not installed onto your memory stick. copy and install are two different things.
These are different statements; not a technical reason. I really wonder WHY it cannot work. Do you have a technical reason that a RAW copy of the stick can't do the job. I am very curious about it.
Thanks again for the 'totalnewbi'.
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11. November 2007 @ 02:18 |
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i have no technical explination because i cannot go in-depth. i am not a coder.
but i do have experience on trying to do what you say. i have copied the original magic memory stick onto my computer, and copied it to a second memory stick. when i used pandora's battery and the second magic memory stick, it failed to boot to the menu. the files were not installed, therefore failed to boot.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 02:23 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
i have no technical explination because i cannot go in-depth. i am not a coder.
but i do have experience on trying to do what you say. i have copied the original magic memory stick onto my computer, and copied it to a second memory stick. when i used pandora's battery and the second magic memory stick, it failed to boot to the menu. the files were not installed, therefore failed to boot.
Okay, that is a good data point.
Now; how did you copy the sticks? Were they really one-to-one copy? I mean, something like "dd" can do.
Thanks again for your patience.
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11. November 2007 @ 02:26 |
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they were direct copies of the files on the memory stick. copied to the computer, then copied to the second memory stick. i don't use a mac or linux OS.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 02:34 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
they were direct copies of the files on the memory stick. copied to the computer, then copied to the second memory stick. i don't use a mac or linux OS.
Well, that may not work: The MBR will be different, the filesystem may be different in terms of at what sector they start, the file positions in the filesystem will be different... I am pretty sure these are important factors during the boot process.
So, while I look into the "total newbi" thing, my original questions stands; I appreciate if someone give me a raw dump of his/her memory stick. There is a good chance that it will work.
After, I fix my PSP (somehow), I'll try this, and post the result. This may be the most easiest way of creating a magic stick. (Doing this with windowz should not be a problem.)
Thanks all...
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11. November 2007 @ 02:42 |
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me and other members have tried all methods of trying to copy one's memory stick and put the files onto another memory stick, but it will still fail to boot. most of the new forum members will ask for a full copy of the memory stick, but we will not give it to them because it will not work.
because the custom firmware psp was a mandatory neccesity for the memory stick and 2/3 of the people have official firmware 3.51 or higher, coders developed the easy installers so it wouldn't need the custom firmware psp.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 03:26 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
me and other members have tried all methods of trying to copy one's memory stick and put the files onto another memory stick, but it will still fail to boot. most of the new forum members will ask for a full copy of the memory stick, but we will not give it to them because it will not work.
because the custom firmware psp was a mandatory neccesity for the memory stick and 2/3 of the people have official firmware 3.51 or higher, coders developed the easy installers so it wouldn't need the custom firmware psp.
I am sorry, but I don't understand this attitude. You basically say, "I couldn't do it, so nobody can do it." And, we know that we are not talking about the same method you tried (a simple copy of files.)
If you think it does not work without a valid technical reason, I suggest, just wait and see. It is not nice to block (or influence) others by unfounded reasons.
I cannot claim that it will work for sure, but I have sufficient experience in these areas that I believe it works. It, at least warrants an attempt. So please, let me and others try.
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11. November 2007 @ 03:39 |
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i have no attitude towards you or this topic. i am giving the results of what members have done before. eversince the creation of the magic memory stick, people have been trying to copy the memory stick, but have failed.
you can look HERE on pages two and three. another member has tried my method on a newer magic memory stick, and even went more in depth than my method. the result was still the same; failed to boot to the menu.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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luzumsuz
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11. November 2007 @ 03:52 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
i have no attitude towards you or this topic. i am giving the results of what members have done before. eversince the creation of the magic memory stick, people have been trying to copy the memory stick, but have failed.
you can look HERE on pages two and three. another member has tried my method on a newer magic memory stick, and even went more in depth than my method. the result was still the same; failed to boot to the menu.
The answer to the original poster in the tread you mention says:
Originally posted by larrylje:
Originally posted by DSpider:
Then how about uploading a dump of the magic MS somewhere, say, rapidshare.com or keepmyfile.com, and post the link here ? :)
As I said before this will not work I have tried it myself and know of others that have. Copying them to a Memory Stick will not work. So the reason you can't find that stuff uploaded is because it would be pointless to do.
larrylje does not mention the details and simply says "copy". It is likely that he thinks what you thought; simply copying the files. And, it still lacks the reason. I am a scientist. Unless, I see a valid reason, I won't dismiss the idea.
Anyway. I am sorry if I sounded negative, personally. It is, off course, nice to discuss this with you. Thank you.
Anyways
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11. November 2007 @ 04:12 |
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i doubt the idea will get dismissed. it'll get pushed aside because most users won't get in-depth with the problem; they want the solution right now. that's where the easy installers came in. first started with must having a custom firmware psp's, then evolved to just having a way to read the memory card.
a lot of the people who wanted the magic memory stick were new users of the psp. and after finding out that more can be done to it, they would be happy, UNTIL they find out that they will need to downgrade and upgrade to custom firmware. that's where the idea of trying to copy a magic memory stick came into play. i've tried copying straight, larrylje tried rerunning the mspformat and copying (and then most likely msinst). other memebers have probably tried it themselves.
i've said all i know about trying to copy the magic memory stick. i can't go any farther, until i think of other ways.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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johnpetr
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14. November 2007 @ 15:21 |
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the method luzumsuz suggested DOES WORK ...
It is not just simply making a copy of the files on the memory stick but actually DUPLICATING the stick.
It has even been mentioned on the noobz forum (with less words), suggesting that this is a possibility and that it does work. (The reason these files arnt online ar copyrights...)
Let me explain with a example most ppl will understand.
Say you want to copy a cd. You use somekind of program that reads the data on the cd and makes a IMAGE (wich is a representation of every "bit" in the same order as it would be on that verry disc). Then you burn that image back to a disc resulting in a perfect copy of the original disc.
ps: thats theorethical and just an example ...... i know that this is not the perfect example but at least ppl will understand.
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14. November 2007 @ 21:14 |
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your very right!
i see absolutely NO reason why an exact RAW DUMP (hence the word DUMP) wouldnt work!
ive never tried this, since i own two CF PSPs, but when you think about it, what the crud would keep it from booting?
luzumsuz and johnpetr know what they are talking about....
but tell me.... could they be the same person?? (both newbs agreeing)
even though they could be very right! :)
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johnpetr
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15. November 2007 @ 00:57 |
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i'm not luzumsuz
just a coincidence im searching for the same thing as luzumsuz. i've been searching an a lot of forums and yesterday i finally found it.
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luzumsuz
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15. November 2007 @ 06:14 |
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Originally posted by lordofuo:
your very right!
but tell me.... could they be the same person?? (both newbs agreeing)
I'm not johnpetr. It is nice to see him and you who agree. I solved my problem (partially) with total newbie installer. As, I promised, I'll try dump-method in two ways: 1) Copy the dump image from one stick to another, 2) sending the dump image to some curious person who can try on his/her PSP. For the first one, I need to get another stick, for the second test, I'll post another message on this forum.
But, before anything, there are a few other problems I need to solve.
Needless to say, a restore of the dump image on my stick works perfectly. I regularly use this simple "dd" whenever I need the magic stick (I mentioned that I have only one stick, didn't I?). Moreover, before I created the stick, I cleaned stick with all zeros (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/STICK). So, after the installation; it occupied only about 40 MB, the rest is all zeros. So, I store only the non-zero part of the image, and restore it whenever I need it; it takes only about 10 seconds to create a magic stick with this direct dump; I don't use mspformat, msinst, and all that complicated stuff.
Even, the total newbie installer is something! I like "push button" systems. As Einstein said:
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
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16. November 2007 @ 21:21 |
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Stephen Hawking is cooler. :)
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luzumsuz
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25. November 2007 @ 05:29 |
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Well. Finally got around and tested what I originally proposed on different sticks and PSPs other than mine. I copied the raw dump from my memory stick on to my friend's. It worked on my friend's brand new slim PSP and with his memory stick. Here is exactly how I did this:
1) Put the universal unbricker (UUB) into the card reader. It was found at /dev/rdisk2 device (if you don't understand what that means, please do not attempt to use this method, because if you do something wrong it may ruin the OS of your computer.)
2) Unmount the memory stick, but do not eject it.
3) Give the following command:
dd if=/dev/rdisk2 of=unbricker.dmg bs=512 count=65536
(Here I assume that you just created your UUB, and it does not use more than 32MB on a freshly formatted stick. If it occupies more than 32MB (=512*65536), just increase the 'count' number appropriately, or just skip the 'count' parameter all together to dump the whole stick (1 GB in my case!))
4) Remove the original stick and put the new stick into the card reader, and unmount it if needed.
5) Give the following command:
dd if=unbricker.dmg of=/dev/rdisk2
Now you have an exact copy of the original. As a side note, I recommend to use a same-size stick, if not greater size one, as it will create a filesystem on the new stick sized as the original one.
Thus, the bottom line is that you can create an unbricker with a memory stick, card reader, and dump image using just two lines of standard unix commands, after all!
Cheers.
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luzumsuz
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25. November 2007 @ 05:34 |
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carp940
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25. November 2007 @ 12:33 |
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Good tutorial. I imagine it would be useful for those who are afraid they'll screw something up in upgrading or just want to feel safe that they have a backup. Unfortunately I don't feel comfortable enough with non-windows stuff to do this, but maybe one day I'll try. Those are Linux commands, right?
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