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Backing up Safedisc 3.10, Call Of Duty
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bhess16
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3. December 2003 @ 11:40 |
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Hey everyone...I have searched the threads and tried my hand at making a backup copy of Activision's Call of Duty, but so far have had no success. I can create a disc that allows me to install the game but not play it. I have tons of programs downloaded on my computer right now...including Blindwrite 5, CloneCD, BW5Tweaker, ClonyXXL, SafediscAnalyzer, CDImageConverter, UnSafeDisc, Daemons Tools, and Nero. I'm using a Dell Inspiron 8500 notebook which has a Samsung DVDrom/cdrw drive...model SN-325B. I am quite confident it's not a 2 sheep burner, so I was wondering if using any of the programs I have if it is still possible to make a working copy of this game. I know it has Safedisc 3 protection. If anyone has the time to possibly type me up a short tutorial on how to go about doing this using the Samsung burner and any combination of the programs that I have I'd greatly appreciate it. Sorry if I'm wasting anyone's time but I'm just not getting this! Thanks in advance!
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Shoey
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4. December 2003 @ 00:51 |
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Use the latest CloneCD and the backup should play flawlessly in your cd burner, not your dvd\cd-rom. For read settings use fast error skip and read max. For write settings, choose "always close last session" and enable "amplify weak sectors" and burn RAW-DAO at 8x. Be sure that "hide cd-r" is enabled in CloneCD (startup\orange sheep icon) and again, play the backup in your cd burner, not your dvd\cd-rom.
Slysoft CloneCD:http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html
Shoey :)
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xakuma
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26. December 2003 @ 07:41 |
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After following this information, I have managed to create a CD of Call of Duty that bypasses the protection. However, when I try to start the game in single player, the game crashes, but works fine with the original CD. Multiplayer also works fine with the copied discs. What could be causing the game to crash?
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Shoey
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26. December 2003 @ 08:32 |
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What could be causing the game to crash?
Internet download or true image of Call Of Duty? Did you burn slow? If you're using Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120% virtual stealth drives, then use the backup and play in your cd-burner. Video drivers up to date? Using latest DirectX?
Shoey :)
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xakuma
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28. December 2003 @ 17:14 |
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Apparently Alcohol 120% virtual drives or emulation has a problem with the game. Previously, I was using Alcohol's Ignore Media Type option, but when I switched to CloneCD's Hide CD-R the game worked. Could this be a problem with my system? Or is Alcohol blacklisted?
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Shoey
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28. December 2003 @ 18:09 |
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Or is Alcohol blacklisted?
I would have to agree as Macrovision and Sony (DAC) are targeting "virtual stealth drives" with their recent pc protection updates. (Safedisc 3.10& SecuROM 5.0) A cheap and reliable way around this is to purchase a "2 sheep burner" such as the Plextor Premium (52\32\52x) or an Asus or LiteOn.
Shoey :)
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28. December 2003 @ 19:12 |
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I just backed up my copy of Call Of Duty three days ago using Alcohol 120% and my Plextor Premium. It works just fine with my LiteOn 166 (my beater drive)._
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Shoey
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30. December 2003 @ 06:04 |
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I just backed up my copy of Call Of Duty three days ago using Alcohol 120%
Be sure to disable autoplay in Alcohol 120% (options)>reboot>play the backup in your Litey as I know it will work. I'm just not a "red beer fan" or a BlindWrite "guru" when it comes to backing up Safedisc cd protection as my preferance is CloneCD= no autoplay embedded in the program.
Shoey :)
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30. December 2003 @ 08:54 |
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Hey Shoey, I was a little vague. I meant that the backup works perfectly in my 166, no setting changes. I've got autoplay disabled on all my drives. So if you were just buying one right now which would you get Clone or Alcohol?
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Shoey
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30. December 2003 @ 23:11 |
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So if you were just buying one right now which would you get Clone or Alcohol?
If one owns a "1 sheep burner" then purchase Alcohol 120%. If one owns a "2 sheep burner" then purchase CloneCD. One can download Daemon Tools, a free virtual stealth drive(s) application.
Shoey :)
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31. December 2003 @ 06:13 |
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Thank you much. I hate to be a pest, but what makes Clone Preferable to Alcohol with a 2-sheep (I have a Plex Premium)? I appreciate the info, Shoey. I ask because I don't own either and am about to purchase one or the other.
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Shoey
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1. January 2004 @ 04:27 |
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but what makes Clone Preferable to Alcohol with a 2-sheep
Fact:
1) Autoplay is embedded in Alcohol 120% which might fool a nOOb backing up Safedisc cd protection(1 sheep burner) when the backup will play in a dvd\cd-rom but after uninstalling nOOb finds the backup simply won't play. Same procedure applies to BlindWrite 5.
2) If using CloneCD either your backup of Safedisc cd protection will play or fail in your dvd\cd-rom even if you decide to uninstall CloneCD as there is no autoplay embedded in the program.
In short, nOObs are fooled by Alcohol 120% and BlindWrite 5 making backups of Safedisc and they launch from their dvd\cd-rom thinking they made a successful backup only to find out their backups are "software dependent".(1 sheep burner)You own the Plex Premium and you know the drive falls under the class of a "2 sheep burner" so why not use CloneCD&
Daemon Tools?
Shoey :)
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1. January 2004 @ 21:04 |
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A very welcome answer indeed. You certainly answered the "why not" for me! Thanks again.
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Praetor
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2. January 2004 @ 19:34 |
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*Praetor runs in the room ranting and raving, waving the red beer flag around...... then runs out* :P
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Shoey
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3. January 2004 @ 03:36 |
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*Praetor runs in the room ranting and raving, waving the red beer flag around...... then runs out* :P
Wonders why Praetor holds up "red beer flag" when Praetor owns an Asus cd burner (2 sheep)? CloneCD+Asus will make working backups of Safedisc 3.1 and SecuROM (CloneCD\TwinPeak) and if Praetor want's to run from a virtual stealth drive, Praetor can use Daemon Tools. Shoey holds up "sheep flag" (long live CloneCD)... (laughs)
Shoey :)
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Praetor
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3. January 2004 @ 04:07 |
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Nah I just never really caught onto the cute interface CloneCD has :P. The A120 layout always appealed to me more hehe.
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3. January 2004 @ 07:14 |
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Another good point! Interface is very subjective. I do love red beer.
I should mention that my backup of COD runs fine on my other PC (the install was done from the original before I tried Alcohol) which has neither Clone or Alcohol on it. That pretty much suits my purposes at present although I'm sure eventually I'll find a reason to buy Clone as well!
Take care all.
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Shoey
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3. January 2004 @ 10:39 |
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I'll find a reason to buy Clone as well!
Well you should have bought CloneCD to begin with m8 and use Daemon Tools as your virtual stealth drive (optional). Be sure to tell your buddies if they own a "1 sheep burner" and they backup Safedisc 2.51-3.1 cd protection not to be fooled that they made an actual "true backup" simply because of "red beer's" autoplay embedment. Long live the King of dup programs= CloneCD. Program has been around quite some time and still King(my opinion+ many others who backup pc\audio cd protection).
Shoey :)
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jaydee123
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11. January 2004 @ 11:55 |
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How do you make a backup copy, of Call of Duty with the NEED of CloneCD still being installed???? I thought I made a perfect copy of the game & it works as long as I have CloneCD installed but once I uninstall CloneCD, the backup copy of COD won't work. So I reinstalled CloneCD Trial & backup copy works again.
So As in a earlier post, the backup NEEDS CloneCD to work. Question is, how do I make a backup copy of COD without the NEED of CloneCD or any other software after I did the copy. I have Plextor PX-708A & Nero 5.I hate the idea of my backup being software dependent, I believe thats is the porblem.Any Ideas???
Dave
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Shoey
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11. January 2004 @ 13:34 |
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How do you make a backup copy, of Call of Duty with the NEED of CloneCD still being installed
When installing CloneCD 4.3.1.9, by default you see an "orange sheep icon" running in system tray (startup). Is "hide cd-r" enabled? If so then you're playing COD with emulation in your Plex dvd burner. Right click the orange sheep icon in system tray and click exit.
Try playing the backup in your a dvd\cd-rom m8. Do you have a "minimum" write speed of 4x? What read\write settings did you use for CloneCD?
Shoey :)
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jaydee123
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11. January 2004 @ 15:06 |
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Shoey,My wording is wrong, that should read, "How do you make a backup copy, of Call of Duty WINTHOUT the NEED of CloneCD still being installed". NOT WITH as I said in my previous post.I just gotta start editing my posts.I have selected the exit for the sheep in the systray & it now works in my other Teac CD-W58E. Now if I uninstall CloneCD will my backup work?? Or do I have to set CloneCD to a special setting & reburn. But the big question is do I need CloneCD installed at all time just so I can play my backup games??? also M8??? what's that.I set the write speed to MAX as I have a Plextor PX-708A on the cd side it reads 40X.If you could give me a step by step on how to copy this, without as you say emulation I would appreciate it very very much.
Dave
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Asus P4PE MoBo,533FSB,2.4 iTEL,512mb PC2700,ATI 8500LE 128mb,ATI TV Wonder Pro R/C,Teac CD-W58E,PLEXTOR PX-708A,Western Digital Cav.SE 80 GiG w/8mb data buffer,this custom made system is running on WinXP.
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jaydee123
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11. January 2004 @ 15:21 |
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Shoey, I just uninstalled CloneCD & the backup won't work, I get a error Can't find Cd-rom. Is this because I made the backup wrong??? Or is this just the way CloneCD works.
Dave
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Asus P4PE MoBo,533FSB,2.4 iTEL,512mb PC2700,ATI 8500LE 128mb,ATI TV Wonder Pro R/C,Teac CD-W58E,PLEXTOR PX-708A,Western Digital Cav.SE 80 GiG w/8mb data buffer,this custom made system is running on WinXP.
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Shoey
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11. January 2004 @ 15:25 |
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I'm bad at my choice of words as well m8 so here I go (again)... When backing up Safedisc cd production you wan't to play the backup in a dvd\cd-rom, not a burner. if the backup won't launch from your dvd\cd-rom then play the backup in your burner with CloneCd's "hide cd-r" enabled. The Plex PX-708A is a confirmed "2 sheep burner" but hardware testing at CD Freaks and CD-R Info only tested Safedisc 2.9 (The Sims Unleashed). If backup works in your dvd-cd-rom then uninstalling CloneCD>reboot>backup should still play. Now if you have Alcohol 120% or BlindWrite 5 installed then you need to uninstall these programs as well (backups of Safedisc only, NOT SecuROM). Leaving CloneCD installed or uninstalled is up to you. I recommend you keep the program installed as "copy on the fly" comes in handy. Use your Plex as "reader" (always) for reading true images of Safedisc& SecuROM cd protection. Last but not least, always read& write Safedisc& SecuROM cd protection at low speeds.
Read: Preferably 24x or lower
Write(RAO DAO): Preferably 12x or lower and choose ignore = weak sectors for Safedisc cd protection( not amplify or emulate)
*Note* Be sure you're using the latest firmware for your Plex PX-708A dvd burner and congrats on a great purchase m8!
http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php
Go to firmware downloads>Plextor>dvd burners.
Shoey :)
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Shoey
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11. January 2004 @ 15:31 |
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Shoey, I just uninstalled CloneCD & the backup won't work, I get a error Can't find Cd-rom. Is this because I made the backup wrong??? Or is this just the way CloneCD works.
Read the image again and this time save as "cue sheet" and we'll try FireBurner. I'm going to private message you a.s.a.p.
Shoey :)
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jaydee123
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11. January 2004 @ 15:46 |
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Shoey, thanks for all your prompt replies. Are you saying I should try & reburn the game again???? I just hate to have to buy a program meaning CloenCD & always have it installed just to play my backup games. Another question what does M8 mean????? Even another question, Why won't the backup work in the Plextor???? it works ok in the Teac?
dave
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Asus P4PE MoBo,533FSB,2.4 iTEL,512mb PC2700,ATI 8500LE 128mb,ATI TV Wonder Pro R/C,Teac CD-W58E,PLEXTOR PX-708A,Western Digital Cav.SE 80 GiG w/8mb data buffer,this custom made system is running on WinXP.
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