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24. September 2008 @ 15:52 |
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lol, ok, so is mushkin a good brand? and btw corsair is not doing so well, they lack new products
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24. September 2008 @ 16:20 |
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The HD4870 is quiet, but obviously if your system doesn't POST, the fan runs at full speed... haha
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24. September 2008 @ 16:31 |
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what does POST mean?
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24. September 2008 @ 16:32 |
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Power on self test - it's the part of the BIOS you always see when your PC powers up, not the bit you only access to change settings.
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25. September 2008 @ 00:58 |
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Running into another problem. Have the old DVD drive hooked up, and while the BIOS detects the drive, when I try to boot from it the system just hangs with a blink cursor on a blank screen. This happens with my ubuntu and vista boot disk.
DVD drive and HDD are both on the same IDE chain, HDD set to master, DVD to slave. HDD is hooked up on the IDE cable first while the DVD is at the end.
Edit: Tried a 2nd DVD drive, changed the jumper between master/slave/cable select. Had the same results. Sure wish I could use this new rig :(
Edit 2: Played with the HDD jumper, kept it as master, DVD as slave. Somehow it's working now. Might have properly seated the HDD jumper when I played with it. DVD now loading :) (Now that I look at it, i'm pretty sure the first drive I tested was a CD only drive, got to love old technology)
Edit 3: Dear lord, I only make it about 10 seconds into the Vista disk before it hangs on a screen showing only the vista background and the mouse cursor which I am able to keep moving. I really can't win and will probably leave this until morning now.
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25. September 2008 @ 07:13 |
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That's meant to happen, Vista does that. in 5 minutes vista will start installing, be patient!
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25. September 2008 @ 07:23 |
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chee, Vista sure is a pain when it comes to installing the OS...no wonder it's not good
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25. September 2008 @ 07:27 |
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Yup, it will hang for 5 minutes or so there, and another moment after you click the next button, takes considerable time to install, and often fails during the hardware installation section if you have an incompatible motherboard (note that a few core 2 duo motherboards are incompatible). Once it's finally installed, be greeted with an OS that takes four times as long as XP to load. Turns out the files not accessible problem is with windows itself, and not just vista, but XP has an easy fix to sort the problem out, Vista doesn't.
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25. September 2008 @ 07:32 |
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so that means you must buy the hardware with "Vista Certified" onit. Most of the components are now Vista compatible isn't it?
Oh, you know DDR3, what speed can a motherboard support upto? Because Nahalem only supports DDR3 1066 not higher unless you OC it...what is the use of buying an DDr3
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25. September 2008 @ 07:33 |
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the god-awful nforce 700 chipsets support the higher speeds I think.
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25. September 2008 @ 07:41 |
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ha, ok right...even X58 doesn't support that high...
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25. September 2008 @ 11:34 |
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I happened to leave the room for a while and on my return found out that the vista install is just hella slow. It probably doesn't help that I'm using an old 30 gig IDE drive. I also have a 320 gig 7200 IDE HDD that I was planning on using as a second HDD but on second consideration I think i'm going to replace the 30 with a small but fast SATA2 drive and install my OS on that and still use the 320 as a 2nd data storage drive. It'll end up being
SATA: Fast, smaller drive with OS, Apps on it
IDE: 320gig for data storage
IDE: DVD Drive
The HDD market seem pretty convoluted as RPM's aren't the end-all of how fast they are and I can find little useful information about performance of models. What are some good 7200 for bang for your buck? the 10K/15K are out of my price range.
(PS Ended up staying up all night playing with the rig and now I'm trying to complete a linear algebra assignment on 3 hours of sleep :P)
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25. September 2008 @ 11:52 |
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Samsung Spinpoint F1s are reasonably fast, but will never match the OS performance of even the slowest 10k drive as while the data transfer rates are very similar, the response times of 10k drives make them miles faster for installing and booting an OS.
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25. September 2008 @ 11:54 |
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Hi
IDE and SATA are basically the same, there speed are close if not the same. The only difference is the cable and the name, thats about it. Unless your old 30GB is 5400RPM if not it'll be the same. In other words the slowness is not your hdd it's the OS itself, Vista installed much slower than XP.
And goodluck with your project...
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25. September 2008 @ 11:57 |
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That's not all there is to it though, Only with S-ATA can you get the latest developed drives and greater capacity. IDE doesn't restrict the speed of drives as such (though it would cut the speed of the velociraptors and SSDs, all the other HDDs would be unaffected), but buying IDE means buying old, which means buying slow, as newer drives are inherently faster. Also, IDE cables are big, and connectors are lacking on modern motherboards (the vast majority only have enough for 2 drives to be attached)
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25. September 2008 @ 11:59 |
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so in other words, get a new hdd, since most mobo are using SATA...
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25. September 2008 @ 12:01 |
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Indeed, and the most cost effective (dollars/pounds/euros/rand etc Per Gigabyte) drives nowadays seem to be either 500GB or 750GB. 1TB drives have a bit of a premium and 1.5TB drives not only have a large premium but are also as yet unavailable by the looks of things.
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25. September 2008 @ 12:05 |
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The 30gig indeed is only 5400 rpm and makes palits 70mm fan on the GPU seem quiet. It's sound bad enough that it might possibly be on the out anyways. My MB only has a single IDE connector so I max out 2 devices on that daisy chain. On top of that if I run a better drive off of SATA than my main HDD and DVD drive won't be competing for bandwidth, another reason that I suspect the OS installation took so long.
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25. September 2008 @ 12:06 |
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That's probably quite likely. Also, 5400rpm drives are very slow indeed.
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25. September 2008 @ 12:09 |
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oh gosh, get a new drive man...5400RPM and 7200RPM is like a bicycle and a car...yes bycycle is quiet but slow and you know what a car is like compare to a bicycle...
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25. September 2008 @ 12:09 |
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I'm probably being a sucker, but from those of you who have them, are the 10K/15K drives worth the price difference, or more useful for those who have the disposable income where price doesn't matter as much?
I'm definitely not the later but I'd rather get something that is more useful than perhaps say practical.
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25. September 2008 @ 12:12 |
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lol, i don't even get an income nor pocket money, i get money on my birthday and Xmas etc It took me nearly 2 years to get a new 500GB hdd...only know i found a way to save money...
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25. September 2008 @ 12:29 |
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When you start to build lists of expenses it's not as much a matter of 'saving up' for something, but comparing it's value to other real world costs. It's easy to spend thousands on a top of the line rig, but spending the extra thousands is it worth the small gains versus the value of all the bills, oil changes, and textbooks that you could have used that money instead.
I've found some raptor 150 vs seagate 7200.11 benchmarks and it doesn't look like it's worth it after all. The 10K drive shaves off 2-3 seconds in load times. I'll probably end up going with a seagate, they look pretty solid.
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25. September 2008 @ 12:58 |
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yeah i know what you mean, you can get a decent DX10 rig just quater of the price of a high-end...and yes get a seagate, they have quality build hdd...
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25. September 2008 @ 13:02 |
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5400rpm drives are actually much louder than most 7200rpm drives...
Just bear in mind shambles, that once your OS starts getting full up, a 10k drive will HALVE bootup time.
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