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CES 2008: Microsoft could consider Blu-ray accessory for Xbox 360
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article published on 8 January, 2008
At the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox hardware indicated that Microsoft could consider making a Blu-ray accessory available for the Xbox 360 console even though it remains a backer of the HD DVD format. "It should be consumer choice; and if that's the way they vote, that's something we'll have to consider," he said when asked if Microsoft ... [ read the full article ]
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kar10
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8. January 2008 @ 19:42 |
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I hope Microsoft makes an official announcement and makes a Blue Ray Disc Player just like the HD DVD Player. This will be good news for me since I have an xbox 360. I don't want to have to spend more money on another system.
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8. January 2008 @ 19:54 |
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Originally posted by kar10:
I hope Microsoft makes an official announcement and makes a Blue Ray Disc Player just like the HD DVD Player. This will be good news for me since I have an xbox 360. I don't want to have to spend more money on another system.
Couldn't agree more BD media should be for both console & not one but BDA isn't that dumb if they are trying to be the next media for the future they have no choice but to have a add-on or some kind of BD play back device for 360 down the road.
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8. January 2008 @ 20:13 |
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I don't know, it's a good idea but they're basically supporting their "enemy"(Sony) I guess.
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8. January 2008 @ 20:18 |
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I knew sooner or later M$ would possibly jump on board. Actually they had a article on here that laid the seed for this to swirl in peoples minds. I bet that new 360 Ultimate that is just a rumor so to speak may end up with a Blu-ray drive in it. Thats going to be funny seeing like 4 - 5 revisions in such a short spand.
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8. January 2008 @ 21:09 |
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they want $$$ now that hd-dvd is losing the battle they want to be in the game
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kar10
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8. January 2008 @ 21:23 |
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Originally posted by chaos_zzz:
they want $$$ now that hd-dvd is losing the battle they want to be in the game
Microsoft have to start building a Blue-Ray Player because they might start losing money in Xbox 360 sales. Many people think Xbox 360 synonymous to HD DVD and they have to show people that they also support Blue-Ray.
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8. January 2008 @ 22:18 |
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Microsoft definitely needs a Blu-Ray add on player ASAP. Its no secret that BluRay is killing HD-DVD as far as support goes. Seems like once a week, somebody is dropping out of supporting HD-DVD and jumping on the BluRay bandwagon. Doesnt really matter to me, because I have a PS3 as well.
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8. January 2008 @ 22:35 |
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wow that would be great for me as a 360 owner.
I just hope its 2.0, or at least 1.1 with guarantee of 2.0 with a future firmware upgrade
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8. January 2008 @ 22:39 |
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no1 on the BDA would give microsoft the rights to produce blu-ray since microsoft made blu-ray also lose money because the format war was extended after the pay-offs microsoft made.
let microsoft rot in hell.
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8. January 2008 @ 22:41 |
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I dont care who wins this format war as long as the customer wins in the end! I do have a 360 & a separate HD DVD player (friend got for gift) anyways i think it would be smart because it may bring over a few people who are on the edge of 360 or PS3! there have got to be a few people who go PS3 due to Bluray player, not that this is the nly reason they are buyign the PS3 but that is the deciding factor, i know because i had thought PS3 for that reason! but ended up with 360. I also know that as soon as i heard that Warner is leaving us HD folk to join Blu Ray i had pondered looking @ a PS3 in the next year for my bluray player! but i wont if the 360 has an add on!
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8. January 2008 @ 22:48 |
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LOL, this is too funny. Now that they actually realize how stupid they are to not have put in the HD DVD in the Beggining. And even if it gets "Blu-ray accessory" the console will still because of they crappy decision on the DVD9.
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8. January 2008 @ 22:55 |
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this could be a win-lose for the BDA
win, because they can get the xbox360 owners into BD in an appealing way and (hopefully) inexpensively.
lose, because..well all those 360 owners who want to go blu aren't going to buy a PS3 or other BD player for it.
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8. January 2008 @ 23:17 |
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Originally posted by xXxBG:
LOL, this is too funny. Now that they actually realize how stupid they are to not have put in the HD DVD in the Beggining. And even if it gets "Blu-ray accessory" the console will still because of they crappy decision on the DVD9.
That wasn't a stupid move. It was a smart move!
Just imagine a Xbox 360 with an integrated HD DVD Player right now specially how things are going with HD DVD.
Many people would probably stop buying an Xbox 360 because they might think that HD DVD is dead.
Instead they knew from the start that HD DVD could fail. Now the only thing they have to do is just add a Blue Ray Player and they are back in business.
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8. January 2008 @ 23:21 |
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Originally posted by xXxBG:
LOL, this is too funny. Now that they actually realize how stupid they are to not have put in the HD DVD in the Beggining. And even if it gets "Blu-ray accessory" the console will still because of they crappy decision on the DVD9.
That wasn't a stupid move. It was a smart move!
Just imagine a Xbox 360 with an integrated HD DVD Player right now specially how things are going with HD DVD.
Many people would probably stop buying an Xbox 360 because they might think that HD DVD is dead.
Instead they knew from the start that HD DVD could fail. Now the only thing they have to do is just add a Blue Ray Player and they are back in business.
true..
lol but doesnt make me want to have much faith in future microsoft projects =P
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8. January 2008 @ 23:24 |
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Originally posted by xXxBG:
LOL, this is too funny. Now that they actually realize how stupid they are to not have put in the HD DVD in the Beggining. And even if it gets "Blu-ray accessory" the console will still because of they crappy decision on the DVD9.
IIRC HD DVD was not available or not a finalized product yet when the 360 was launched.
The 360 was launched November 22, 2005. The first HD DVD player from Toshiba was introduced March 31, 2006 in Japan and April 18, 2006 in the US.
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jimmer
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8. January 2008 @ 23:48 |
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if its only for movies, i don't see this happening... look at the number of 360 owners and the number of hd-dvd addons sold...
unless if they start putting games on hi-def media
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8. January 2008 @ 23:49 |
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Many of you are idiots. All of you, it seems, are so anxious for this "format war" to come to an end? If I may ask, for what reason? The "war" brings lower prices. The DVD forum, or HD FORUM (not sure which) are the REAL culprits that need to be bleep. They are the ones requiring expensive licensing and making these companies support one or the other. If each company was able to produce for both formats, than the war would cease, and prices would stay relatively low. HD is superior to the fact that it is cheaper, and the encryption is weaker. (this is only good because I am an idiot pirate) Also, many of you knock MS for being such bleep. Except you forget, they are the reason computing is in the state it is today, they have had many of the first innovations, not to mention I'm sure many of you are still running their OS. I don't like Windows, and run Ubuntu but they do have good products. Back to the format war......if it does end, have fun paying for all the technologies in BLUE RAY.....http://bluraysucks.com/ you guys may find some information that will piss you off. I guess most of you love the MPAA. I know you do.
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8. January 2008 @ 23:49 |
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if microsoft werent so greedy to get the console out so fast and waited for the specs to be finalized and took an even bigger loss like sony did then there would be no format war. sony had a plan all along. their a consumer electronics company and that reflects in their strategies. ps1 could play cds and the format was cd rom. ps2 we all know. ps3 we all know. who ever says they use that as a trojan horse might be a hater and is trying to use it in a bad way or in a 'sony is evil' kind of way but their not really lying. this is what they had planned for all along. msoft knew it, sony was a threat to them. about 10 years after the ps1 launched and the 360 and ps3 are both here we see what is all about. who ever says sony and drm evil blah blah blah trying to take over the world screwing consumers this and that, needs to ask themselfes why m$ got into the video game world in the first place? the same reason that they released ther zune. same thing. those pieces of hardware both serve a similar interest. so msoft and sony are both the same really. in the future, electronics will both merge into one and they want to grab a piece of the share before they are left out.
just my 2 cents of opinion.
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9. January 2008 @ 00:30 |
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That and about $1-billion in payoffs to Warner and Fox and they have the "winning" format! Yeah Sony!
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9. January 2008 @ 03:17 |
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There are obstacles to a BR add on for the 360 is price and that will effect software/film sales.
HDVD would be better for games on the 360 simply because they can change to it at low or no cost.
Still price and big biz deals are the only concern for BR on the 360.
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jove
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9. January 2008 @ 03:22 |
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electronics will all* merge into one*** i meant!
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Originally posted by jove:
if microsoft werent so greedy to get the console out so fast and waited for the specs to be finalized and took an even bigger loss like sony did then there would be no format war. sony had a plan all along. their a consumer electronics company and that reflects in their strategies. ps1 could play cds and the format was cd rom. ps2 we all know. ps3 we all know. who ever says they use that as a trojan horse might be a hater and is trying to use it in a bad way or in a 'sony is evil' kind of way but their not really lying. this is what they had planned for all along. msoft knew it, sony was a threat to them. about 10 years after the ps1 launched and the 360 and ps3 are both here we see what is all about. who ever says sony and drm evil blah blah blah trying to take over the world screwing consumers this and that, needs to ask themselfes why m$ got into the video game world in the first place? the same reason that they released ther zune. same thing. those pieces of hardware both serve a similar interest. so msoft and sony are both the same really. in the future, electronics will both merge into one and they want to grab a piece of the share before they are left out.
just my 2 cents of opinion.
Well if MS planed at all the 360 would be a better deal to the consumer than the PS3 is..well at least the 60GB unit..thats the only real PS3...anyway, if MS simply made component to HDMI adapter this could be easily upgraded to HDMI spec 1.2 to take audio if they added a digital sound out it could handle most of the newer spec butat elast be better than the first version of the 360, if MS unlocked the HDD and let the consumer change it at whim as well as built the 360 to not be an easy break oven that eats discs the 360 would easily be a better value to the consumer but with all thos issues at 350+ the 60GB unit at 350-450 of the PS3 is the better vaule in hardware and spec.
Really MS could have done better but they had to make the fist move if they did not they would not be the top game seller, its just a shame MS had damaged the 360 so much even so it still sales well and the bottom line they protect.
Sony is no different in protecting their bottom line they might have built the PS3 better but it has as many issues from the pitiful launch and revisions to optimization issues.
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9. January 2008 @ 03:42 |
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personally i dont see an addon coming any time soon. mircosoft has their own agenda. i don't think its coincidental that possibly the largest checkbook out there remained closed when it came to the warner deal, if there even was some form of an exchange that took place.
they simply went with an HD-DVD addon because if one were to add up all the costs involved in buying a 360 with say a Blu-ray drive, which probably would have retailed for ATLEAST $100 MORE than what the HD-DVD drive intially retailed for, consumers would realize the better deal would be found with the all inclusive ps3.
a $400 360 premium back in the day with an addon of atleast say $300 or so if it was blu-ray would put the cost of the 360 at 700$, already 100$ more than the 60gig ps3 back when. it wasn't the right fit if you ask me.
also i'd be pretty surprised if the 360 lasted another 4 years. i dont think they have the same longterm plans as sony with the playstation 3. so i really don't see blu-ray in their plans, well not till the cost of standalones decrease a little more. may be next year or two but i wouldn't bet on it. they are pushing their product
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HDVD would be better for games on the 360 simply because they can change to it at low or no cost.
that might be the case but say they released games on HD-DVD tomorrow, what would you expect the price of games to be? increase $5 or stay the same. if they stayed the same then sorry but i myself own a 360 and personally i would feel insulted and ripped off if this became the case. pc games release on the same format as 360 games (standard DVD) yet they are generally $10 CHEAPER! how is it the case that 360 games still COST MORE and how would they be able to charge the same price, given that scenario?
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you know what, if microsoft build a better console, their console would be more than a video game. it could have influenced the industry the way the ps3 is. ten years down the road and the ps3 helped bring down the costs of the diodes which they will use in other blu ray players and bring the price down faster, etc. i think msoft, even if they end 1st in sales and even if they surpass the wii, what kind of influence they will have in the industry. sony on the other hand. if they end up 3d, they helped push their format and so on. i think msoft didnt realised the impact or the reach that video games have and the people they reach. if they have gamers that are like good graphics and are willing to spend 60-100$ dollars a gaame, willing to pay for live, then they missed a good oportunity of tapin that same audience for hd dvd's sake. sony tho, im no defending them or supporting them in any way, they took a big loss from the begining and seemed to have a plan. sure the launched was bad and not too many games from the begining but think about it, the cell went down or will go down to 65nm, graphics card too, diodes, i think they went full force with it. msoft, could take over the video game industry but it didnt push their interests their way.
i dunno just my 2 more cents so make that 4 ;) peace
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9. January 2008 @ 04:00 |
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personally i dont see an addon coming any time soon. mircosoft has their own agenda. i don't think its coincidental that possibly the largest checkbook out there remained closed when it came to the warner deal, if there even was some form of an exchange that took place.
they simply went with an HD-DVD addon because if one were to add up all the costs involved in buying a 360 with say a Blu-ray drive, which probably would have retailed for ATLEAST $100 MORE than what the HD-DVD drive intially retailed for, consumers would realize the better deal would be found with the all inclusive ps3.
a $400 360 premium back in the day with an addon of atleast say $300 or so if it was blu-ray would put the cost of the 360 at 700$, already 100$ more than the 60gig ps3 back when. it wasn't the right fit if you ask me.
also i'd be pretty surprised if the 360 lasted another 4 years. i dont think they have the same longterm plans as sony with the playstation 3.
Originally posted by zippy:
HDVD would be better for games on the 360 simply because they can change to it at low or no cost.
that might be the case but say they released games on HD-DVD tomorrow, what would you expect the price of games to be? increase $5 or stay the same. if they stayed the same then sorry but i myself own a 360 and personally i would feel insulted and ripped off if this became the case. pc games release on the same format as 360 games (standard DVD) yet they are generally $10 CHEAPER! how is this the case and how would they be able to charge the same price, given that scenario?
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Heres the trick they do not need to rise the price of games its a losing battle that just slows sales,there will be a 5-15% "loss" in game sales but its low enough to make up for moving over to it, also if it went up 5$ it would not really change anything 5$ is nothing on a 50-60$ game.
Frankly I have had a 360 for months borrowed from a friend it is ALREADY a rip off the hardware issues and the HDD issues its just pure BS for the premium price they want for it.
Moving the lineup to HDVD in 2-4 years is not that bad a deal not with the add on being the price of 2 games, but that is the main thing PRICE if they can not make it cheap to the consumer its pointlessand doomed from the start.
I really want the next Xbox to be a polished and well built system but if they just slop it together like the 360 ....
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Agreed the 360 and PS3 were mishandled but in diffrent ways MS just did not see the future and sony tried to hard to own it.
the PS3 is moving to a 64NM cell I believe they are making it a bit cheaper but removing the 60$ worth of BWC stuff is just LAME.
Its a shame MS could have done so much for itself if they put more quality into the 360.
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