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CES 2008: Verbatim updates line of Blu-ray media

article published on 10 January, 2008

Verbatim Americas, LLC is featuring an expanded line of Blu-ray writable media at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas. While already having 2x BD recordable (BD-R) and BD rewritable (BD-RE) media on the market, the company is showing 6 new BD products scheduled to begin shipping in the first half of 2008. The new products include 4x BD-R discs, Single-sided Double-layer (DL) ... [ read the full article ]

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rainofire
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10. January 2008 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oooh organic... what does that mean? does it mean that its cheaper than the regular inorganic one, if so why don't they make all blu-ray organic. that should help lower the cost and make more appealing to buy for potential buyers.
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10. January 2008 @ 04:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its just a shame that many players including sony's own, newly released Sony BDP-S300 does not support BD-R media so you will never be playing backup copies, imported films or any home made movies on this hardware!

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=BDPS300

READ BELOW SONY PDF: Operating Instructions:

http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/DocsConnect/...ualid=99519&DL=

and lookup "This player can play the following discs and files" and then look at "Examples of discs that the player cannot play" and you will see at the top BD-REs/BD-Rs, neither will it play DVD-RW, DVD-R film backups with stripped css or restructuring or without region coding!

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10. January 2008 @ 06:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rainofire:
oooh organic... what does that mean? does it mean that its cheaper than the regular inorganic one, if so why don't they make all blu-ray organic. that should help lower the cost and make more appealing to buy for potential buyers.
i was wondering the same. can somebody explain
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10. January 2008 @ 07:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nobrainer:
Its just a shame that many players including sony's own Sony BDP-S300 does not support BD-R media so you will never be playing backup copies, imported films or any home made movies on this hardware!

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=BDPS300

READ BELOW SONY PDF: Operating Instructions:

http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/DocsConnect/...ualid=99519&DL=

and lookup "This player can play the following discs and files" and then look at "Examples of discs that the player cannot play" and you will see at the top BD-REs/BD-Rs, neither will it play DVD-RW, DVD-R film backups with stripped css or restructuring or without region coding!
The PS3 can play BD-R according to the box. Also I can play all of my backup DVDs on it.
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10. January 2008 @ 09:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ooZEROoo :
Originally posted by nobrainer:
Its just a shame that many players including sony's own Sony BDP-S300 does not support BD-R media so you will never be playing backup copies, imported films or any home made movies on this hardware!

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=BDPS300

READ BELOW SONY PDF: Operating Instructions:

http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/DocsConnect/...ualid=99519&DL=

and lookup "This player can play the following discs and files" and then look at "Examples of discs that the player cannot play" and you will see at the top BD-REs/BD-Rs, neither will it play DVD-RW, DVD-R film backups with stripped css or restructuring or without region coding!
The PS3 can play BD-R according to the box. Also I can play all of my backup DVDs on it.
yes the ps3 can use BD-r media and DVD-r/+r but only pal content (for europe ect ntsc for the usa) not ntsc videos, and the ps3 is still region locked for blu-ray playback.

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tavek
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10. January 2008 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
WOW all we need now is iXtreme for ps 3!
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10. January 2008 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No mention of the cost. This would be pretty awesome for storage, depending on the cost. I would personally greatly benefit from being able to consolidate 11 single layer data DVD's with a single dual layer BR disc. I would pay up to $5 for a dual layer BR disc, but not more than that.

Regarding the organic material, wasn't there an article not too long ago about organic BR discs growing fungus and mold?

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nobrainer
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10. January 2008 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by emugamer:
No mention of the cost. This would be pretty awesome for storage, depending on the cost. I would personally greatly benefit from being able to consolidate 11 single layer data DVD's with a single dual layer BR disc. I would pay up to $5 for a dual layer BR disc, but not more than that.

Regarding the organic material, wasn't there an article not too long ago about organic BR discs growing fungus and mold?
with 2x blu-ray drives how long do you want to be either burning data to it or getting 50gig's from it?

if you want a data backup solution with more than 50gig's i'd recommend purchasing a hard drive as it will be cheaper than even a single BD-R disc or if you have a lot of data, like server size maybe tape would be a far better option.

BD-R is a useless backup solution because of price and speed!

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10. January 2008 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Originally posted by emugamer:
No mention of the cost. This would be pretty awesome for storage, depending on the cost. I would personally greatly benefit from being able to consolidate 11 single layer data DVD's with a single dual layer BR disc. I would pay up to $5 for a dual layer BR disc, but not more than that.

Regarding the organic material, wasn't there an article not too long ago about organic BR discs growing fungus and mold?
with 2x blu-ray drives how long do you want to be either burning data to it or getting 50gig's from it?

if you want a data backup solution with more than 50gig's i'd recommend purchasing a hard drive as it will be cheaper than even a single BD-R disc or if you have a lot of data, like server size maybe tape would be a far better option.

BD-R is a useless backup solution because of price and speed!
Speed will eventually increase. This is the same argument that was made a few years ago when DL media was only 2X. The whole point of using it to backup data is so that I can free up hard drive space. Hard drives fail. I've had my bad experiences. Data I've burned onto discs 6 years ago is still there. My data is important to me, but not so important that would pay money for a RAID setup. I wouldn't use a DL disc now to backup data because of the cost differential compared to a SL disc. But if with BR, the increase in storage is a much greater jump.
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10. January 2008 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by emugamer:
No mention of the cost. This would be pretty awesome for storage, depending on the cost. I would personally greatly benefit from being able to consolidate 11 single layer data DVD's with a single dual layer BR disc. I would pay up to $5 for a dual layer BR disc, but not more than that.

Regarding the organic material, wasn't there an article not too long ago about organic BR discs growing fungus and mold?
You'll definitely be paying more then $5, trust me.
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10. January 2008 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by emugamer:
No mention of the cost. This would be pretty awesome for storage, depending on the cost. I would personally greatly benefit from being able to consolidate 11 single layer data DVD's with a single dual layer BR disc. I would pay up to $5 for a dual layer BR disc, but not more than that.

Regarding the organic material, wasn't there an article not too long ago about organic BR discs growing fungus and mold?
You'll definitely be paying more then $5, trust me.
How about SL BD's? You think that will go over the $5 mark?
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14. January 2008 @ 16:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This all sounds good and all. However i think ill wait for the burners to pick up some more speed 4x is good however if i wanted to data backups from a server and had a lot of data i did not want to take up this much time.
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14. January 2008 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ya 4x is all I need. It's like the safe zone for DVD burning. You know it's gonna work when burning at that speed plus that isn't too slow, or not as unbearable as 1-2x :P
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14. January 2008 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by vinny13:
Ya 4x is all I need. It's like the safe zone for DVD burning. You know it's gonna work when burning at that speed plus that isn't too slow, or not as unbearable as 1-2x :P
Thats all very well for 5gig's but 50gig is another matter.
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