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Time Warner to start bandwidth caps
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 17 January, 2008
According to an internal memo, it seems that the high-speed cable ISP Time Warner Cable will be starting bandwidth caps aimed at "collecting revenue from those who utilize over half of the total network bandwidth."
Besides confirming the legitimacy of the memo, Time Warner has declined any other details on its plans.
The memo explained that the first subscribers subject to the bandwidth ... [ read the full article ]
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vinny13
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17. January 2008 @ 16:30 |
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More people jumping on the douche wagon these days...
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banned2X
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17. January 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Hmmmmmm.............if Comcast decides to do this to its customers and I, I get charged then I'm bustin' out the big guns and calculating ALL the bandwidth that I have paid for (4Mbps down) and figuring out just how much leniency I deserver and get by having an average speed rating at 2.5Mbps down. That's a 38% decrease, or screw depending on how you look at it. Capped my BW and charge me????????.............and I will offset for what I'm paying for vs. what I'm getting. This is a cut and dry situation in my mind.
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locobrown
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17. January 2008 @ 17:03 |
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Move around, that's what I have done after comcast decided to monitor all upload and download activity from their users. It's bad business trying to earn a quick buck will only back fire, but isp providers never learn.
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redux79
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17. January 2008 @ 17:23 |
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I heard about this on cnn this morning. From what I understand they are not going to reduce the rates for people who use very little bandwidth (big surprise there). The current rates will stay the same until you start surpassing the bandwidth caps, greedy sob's. Unfortunately moving around will probably never be a possibility where I live considering f'ing comcast has cemented a monopoly here.
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17. January 2008 @ 17:57 |
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This move from Time Warner cable does not surprise me at all.Time Warner Cable is trying to find any means to drain there customer for every dollar they can possible get because Direct TV is taking all there customer base.I just got a notice from them a month ago about there rates are going up for the third year in a row.Also with secret contacts they got with Apartment ownership groups that force customers to buy there product & not have a choice.On top of that they have horrible customer service that treat you like a crook when you call having a issue with your bill.Time Warner don't have to worry about me getting anything from them after April.I going to close on my house real soon & i can't wait to throw them back there garage equipment.I'm glad to see these money draining Cable companys dieing a slow death.
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dikdimond
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17. January 2008 @ 18:06 |
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My g/f works for Time-Warner as a customer service rep,and she didn't tell me about this...I'm not putting up with a cap of any kind. Looks like it's time to see what my options are,and keep praying fiber optic from Verizon will be offered in Ohio before I die. I already have trouble with their newsgroup
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mfgnet
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17. January 2008 @ 19:22 |
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Where is the respect for us Americans who if it wasn't for us therE'D be no time warner! You materialIstIc Americans are the cause of this cancer! StOp buying their shit and starT PIRATING THEIR SHIT. cLOSE THEMN BITCHES DOWN. i DON'T MEAN THAT> FOR LEAGAL REASONS. sO THOSE BASTARDS CAN'T SUE ME. tHEY ARE THE 4TH REICH AND WILL USE GESTAPO TACTICS. lIBERALS SHOULD HATE THE MEDIA MORE THAN Bush! THey are the ones who are ruling and fucking up USA, not he!
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jimmer
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17. January 2008 @ 19:43 |
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this is stupid
then they should pay their customers who have leftover bandwidth at the end of every month
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DVDdoug
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17. January 2008 @ 20:43 |
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I really don't see a problem with this. When the customers use more bandwith the costs (for the ISP) go up. They have to install & maintain more routers, etc.
You pay for the amount of electricity you use. You pay for the number of phone calls you make. You pay for the number of cable channels you get, etc.
As long as they are HONEST about the service you are paying for, it's a free market and you can drop the service if it's not worth it to you. Comcast's mistake was selling you "unlimited" service and then limiting it. That's FRAUD!
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17. January 2008 @ 21:00 |
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If you have Time Warner, here's what you do:
Take two empty paper towel rolls and tape them end-to-end. Go to the bank and get the exact amount you owe Time Warner in pennies and nickels. Go to their office and start rolling coins through the tube to pay. When you get halfway through, cap the tube and say "Ohhhhh, I'm sorry. That's all the bandwidth you're entitled to for today. You know, it's like my situation. I pay for unlimited access and you limit it. So I'll be back tomorrow, and maybe the next day, to pay the next installment."
Demand a receipt EVERY time.
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MrGrimace
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17. January 2008 @ 21:05 |
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This does not bother me either. If they do it, they lose my business plain and simple. I will not put up with metered service when another provider has un-metered service. When I call their service rep I will make sure they know exactly why I switched.
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17. January 2008 @ 21:06 |
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Originally posted by DVDdoug:
I really don't see a problem with this.
As long as they are HONEST about the service you are paying for, it's a free market and you can drop the service if it's not worth it to you. Comcast's mistake was selling you "unlimited" service and then limiting it. That's FRAUD!
They're not being honest.
They have altered one side of a contract without consent. It's no different and Time Warner should be sued just as hard and often as Comcast.
There is no difference.
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Shegax
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17. January 2008 @ 21:08 |
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Doesn't matter to you! But EVERYONE ELSE Does see a problem with this. This is bad business practice! We are already behind speed wise compared to Europe which has had fiber optics for a while now. This will cause major backlash from consumers. It's not just them however. If they need more servers then make more servers, they make tons of money off of all of us as it is! This is not progress, this is taking many steps backwards! Consumers are being given the short end of the stick on many different things! This is all about squeezing us out of our money period! The cost of new servers is nothing compared to the profits they declare every year! My uncle said it best when he said: whenever you scratch you head about things in america not making any sense remember the saying: Profit over progress....always.
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17. January 2008 @ 21:11 |
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Originally posted by jimmer:
this is stupid
then they should pay their customers who have leftover bandwidth at the end of every month
BINGO!
You've put your finger on the injustice of the business model, bud.
The ISPs are holding us back deliberately because they're making out like pigs forcing crappy service down our throats and doling out tiny doses of bandwidth at ridiculous prices.
It's time to bust them up and DEMAND fiber, WANs and 21st Century technology for our money.
Comcast and Time Warner should BE DESTROYED.
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freddotu
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17. January 2008 @ 22:04 |
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I'm an Earthlink user piggy-backed on Time Warner/Brighthouse. As others have said, if they tack on more charges, they will lose a paying customer while I switch to DSL.
The big guns come out if Verizon ever puts in FIOS in my area or anyone else's. What Verizon should do is find where TW plans to put on the caps and drop FIOS (fiber to the home) and see where their revenue ends up!
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17. January 2008 @ 22:10 |
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How is Verizon doing in their internet service? I am looking at their nationwide wireless service, anything that can be an alternative from ConCast
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18. January 2008 @ 00:44 |
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Unlimited bandwidth as it has been advertised is/was BS. People do not read the fine print on their TOS. ALL ISP's reserve the right to change things. They would do it daily if they could! Imposing a cap is like trying to get the genie back in the bottle. They let the damn thing out and now wonder why they have problems.
I can say the equipment to keep these networks up and running is very expensive ($50k plus in some cases). You don't use plain old cat5 on these "routers"! Yes those who are computer literate know they have been schemed but remember folks for every one of you out there there are 10-20 who have no clue or even care about it!
If you really want to know why the cable companies are worried go check out iptv and whats happening there! That stuff is going to give them a run for their money IMHO. Can you say price war in the consumers favor!
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Chavo
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18. January 2008 @ 05:42 |
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Son of a beach! That's not good, my water is already being metered and I can't take long showers, this makes it worse.
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hughjars
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18. January 2008 @ 08:44 |
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I wonder if this is part of their plan to try to spike downloading as the next HD movie medium?
They're at it all over the world.
If the big comms corps had put back even a fraction of the massive profits they have been making in the last 10yrs into updating their networks we wouldn't be in this mess.
As it is this kind of rationing is their answer......or pay again for a superfast line & bandwidth.
Nice of them, huh?
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18. January 2008 @ 09:32 |
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They're not being honest.
They have altered one side of a contract without consent. It's no different and Time Warner should be sued just as hard and often as Comcast.
There is no difference.
Actually they do have your consent. Read the your contract thoroughly, most businesses have a clause in their service agreements that states roughly they can change programming packages, services, price increase, etc etc" wioth little or no warning, and as they see fit. Sucks but that's how it is. Don't like it, I'd find another provider.
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maryjayne
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18. January 2008 @ 10:53 |
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I thought the video industry was looking to start online video and TV watching sites. If there is a bandwidth cap and/or a pay per bit plan set up by the ISPs then online video watching will get shot down.
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LiveChaos
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18. January 2008 @ 11:31 |
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I wonder if a lawsuit against anyone capping service by Netflix and the like looms on the horizion.
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Redlink42
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18. January 2008 @ 12:33 |
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This is pretty sad. I've been enjoying Broadband speeds for several months from Time Warner Cable, but if their little 'venture' to Texas is successful...
Time to switch back to Bellsouth DSL.
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18. January 2008 @ 15:22 |
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Originally posted by Weirdo007:
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They're not being honest.
They have altered one side of a contract without consent. It's no different and Time Warner should be sued just as hard and often as Comcast.
There is no difference.
Actually they do have your consent. Read the your contract thoroughly, most businesses have a clause in their service agreements that states roughly they can change programming packages, services, price increase, etc etc" wioth little or no warning, and as they see fit. Sucks but that's how it is. Don't like it, I'd find another provider.
Another provider who will do the same damn thing if this kind of crud isn't stopped now...stopped cold.
And as for their clauses, they mean nothing. If anyone had the money and determination to fight them on it in court, they'd win. The airlines put garbage like this in their agreements, too. These unilateral additions lose in court every time they're contested properly.
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BcMester
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18. January 2008 @ 16:26 |
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Originally posted by maryjayne:
I thought the video industry was looking to start online video and TV watching sites. If there is a bandwidth cap and/or a pay per bit plan set up by the ISPs then online video watching will get shot down.
That's exactly what they want to happen, kill online video so we go back to the good old DVD disc. Or bluray, whatever. This whole capping thing is bollox and very easily classifies as false advertising IMO.
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