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dvdsmut
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17. January 2008 @ 17:15 |
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I tried making a backup of two seperate movies last night and when i ran them through DVD Shrink, it came up that they were both too large to be backed up. The first one i fixed by Re-Authoring and removing all the menus leaving just the main film. This worked, but then i tried the other and the main film itself seems to be too large. (5,308 MB) My question is is there any way around this problem using SHrink, or are there any other programs i can use to get around this problem. I have the licensed versions of ANYDVD and a few other burn progs. These are the first movies ive ever had this problem with, and any help is greatly appreciated.
P.S. A friend suggested using DVD-9s to fit and while im sure this would work, im looking for a way to fit them on the discs i have
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dvdsmut
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17. January 2008 @ 19:21 |
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anybody???
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17. January 2008 @ 19:35 |
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Is the file you are trying to shrink 5308 mb's ?
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17. January 2008 @ 20:01 |
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Try doing the main movie only.
Run through FixVts to remove the nasties, then run deep analysis through Shrink before hitting backup! then make sure to remove the unneccessary languages, etc. and you should be fine.
What title are you trying to back up, and what process (other than Dvd Shrink) are you utilizing?
The more specific you can be, the more the members here can give advice.
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dvdsmut
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17. January 2008 @ 22:19 |
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If by "title" you mean title of movie, than its 3:10 to Yuma
Ive tried removing the alternate languages it seems to make no difference. Out of the probably 25 different sub obtions they all seem to be taking up 0 MB of space, so i dont think those are the problem. Im currently only using DVDSHRINK as 9 out of 10 times this is sufficient, and if not i use ANYdvd. Like i said i used re-author and tried adding just the main movie minus all the menus and sub titles and whatnot, but the problem is that the movie itself is reading too large to fit on the disc.
Whats Fixvts, is it easy to use, and is it free? And other than taking longer, what difference will running a deep analysis have in this sort of situation.
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17. January 2008 @ 22:25 |
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There is a 3:10 to Yuma thread HERE:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/604951
Try looking there to see if that helps.
Also, are you using ANYDVD + Shrink simultaneously? If you are not, you should.
MY OPINION:
Get rid of shrink asap and get Clonedvd2 or (my favorite) dvdfabplatinum4 (all in one ripping/compressing/burning) as you should have no problems ripping the file to the harddrive and compressing it to fit onto a 4.7 gb dvd.
FixVTS is a MUST if you are into backing movies up... it is free and you can find it along with information HERE:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/FixVTS
I would highly suggest getting VOBBLANKER as well.
Hope that helps!
Cheers!
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18. January 2008 @ 21:54 |
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I burned and have watched 3:10 to Yuma. Ripped to HDD with DVD Fab decrypter ( free version ) Shrink to encode and Image burn to burn. What I got when I opened folder in Shrink was a partial red bar at top where it is usually all green so it looks like it will not compress. All I did was click " Backup " anyway and it started working. When shrink was done I had corrct size ISO file which burned and I have watched - Perfect !
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19. January 2008 @ 22:11 |
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the main film itself seems to be too large. (5,308 MB)
I agree with Crab56 and say ignore that red bar,especially if it's main movie only. 5.3 gbs should easily be compressed by dvd shrink.
What compression setting does shrink show while you have the red sliderbar for main movie only?
Some of the newer releases lately has been doing some screwy things to dvd shrink/anydvd combination,and a false red sliderbar is one of them.This is the 3rd thread I posted to about supposedly too large of movies for dvd shrink to compress.
Look at the compression % that dvd shrink shows when you open up the movie,just underneath AUTOMATIC. It would have to have a ridiculously low number to accurately give a red sliderbar. I haven't tried 3:10 to yuma,but with the new releases in the past 30 days,that false red sliderbar doessn't surprise me.
If in doubt about the red sliderbar:Run it through dvd shrink twice. Back it up normally to begin with-but to it's own folder in case you use the same folder all the time.Ignore the message from shrink saying movie may not fit on disc and proceed. When it asks for a blank disc,abort it. If using dual drives,leave the writing drive empty during the process.After aborting the burn, open up dvd shrink,open files,locate that movie and backup again. If it has to be compressed again,shrink will give show 99 or lower. If shrink tells you 100,then it would have easily fit the 1st time. Then proceed to make your backup. You'll have to create another tempary folder,so make sure you have plenty of empty hd space..Then delete the extra folder after you're done.
Another thing to watch,when doing main movie only on these newer releases the Dvd shrink and Anydvd combo: Cut out the beginning and ending credits.Especially the beginning when the trademarks start-like Lady Liberty,Etc.
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20. January 2008 @ 12:46 |
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Have had a few movies lately with false red bar. Have not had to use shrink twice - all I have done is just click " Backup " and Shrinks just start encoding. When done I check size of ISO file and so far it has been correct size, burn and watch with no problems.
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21. January 2008 @ 17:46 |
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I thought I just got that false red bar again on dvd shrink/anydvd for entire disc and main movie only on my backup pc.
The title is "The Holiday",a sony/columbia release.
After reauthoring,still had red and size was over 5 gbs. Looking at the compression setting in dvd shrink,it said 99. That's only a 1% compression and the quality enhancements were grayed out.Again I got the annoying shrink message of Size too big,may not fit on disc. I ignored it again and went with the compression that shrink showed me of 99.
Edit: Movie was too big.No false red bar this time. After encoding,dvd shrink said to install blank DL disc,so I aborted. Then opened files,located The holiday,ran them back through dvd shrink again and it said 91%,so I have to compress another 9% more. Movie turned out great,even with all the compression and lack of AEC enhanements.
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21. January 2008 @ 19:37
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22. January 2008 @ 20:38 |
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Had the same issue of the 99% compression. I clicked on "analysis" and OK'd a deep analysis and it worked, got to somewhere around 63% and copied fine from there on.
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24. January 2008 @ 18:29 |
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I see several different experiences here. Like others I always open the disc and then click analysis (if no further analysis needed it will tell me) then I click "full backup".
If the "shrunk" file will be too big for single layer burning I tell it to back up anyway and then - as others have posted - I just use shrink again to recompress again by clicking on "open file" instead of open disc.
When complete it just pops open my drive and tells me to put in a blank disc for recording. I've never encountered a red bar or anything.
Or course you could just Re-Author the disc instead of full backup and eliminate everything but the main movie file BUT then, of course, you will have to open the "shrunk" main file in a dvd creation program like DVDitPE and go through the task of creating your own chapter menus but sometimes it's kinda neat to do that.
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24. January 2008 @ 18:56 |
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i just got 3:10 to yuma
i tryed nero recode said unable to compress. shrink had the dread red bar..LOL
here is dvdclone pic .all three apps were main movie only
seems like clone did not have a problem.
what do you make of that..
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24. January 2008 @ 19:54 |
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When shrink gave me the ligitimate red sliderbar,I tried to go through with the burn anyway. When it finished analyzing,it spit out the empty disc that was suppose to be written to.I inserted a couple other blank discs also in case I got a hold of a bad batch. No way would shrink let me burn to blank dvd-5 media..
With the false red sliderbar,shrink allowed me to go ahead and burn onto the blank dvd-5 media.
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24. January 2008 @ 20:02 |
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Originally posted by saugmon:
When shrink gave me the ligitimate red sliderbar,
With the false red sliderbar,shrink allowed me to go ahead and burn onto the blank dvd-5 media.
how can you tell the false one apart from the legitimate one?
i did not try to burn in shrink my be i should have
edit yes i tryed it seem to go through
this was shrink with anydvd
I wonder what causes that file to show so large
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2008 @ 23:35
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24. January 2008 @ 20:13 |
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I think I remember seeing in some posts that at this stage, when it shows the red bar, click "Analysis", let it analyze and it might fix Shrink's problem.
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24. January 2008 @ 20:19 |
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Agree, running analysis first, before hitting backup! will take a little longer, but it will help resolve this issue. I've had this happen a couple of times, and this is normally the best fix for it.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2008 @ 20:19
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24. January 2008 @ 20:25 |
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Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Agree, running analysis first, before hitting backup! will take a little longer, but it will help resolve this issue. I've had this happen a couple of times, and this is normally the best fix for it.
Thanks 7thsinger, I thought I saw that mentioned a couple of times, but I could not say for sure if it worked, as I don't use DVD Shrink.
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24. January 2008 @ 20:27 |
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@Cyprusrom
With a couple titles i've had to do that even after running through FixVts. Some are just packed full of stupid stuff, Analysis can be very helpful.
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24. January 2008 @ 20:30 |
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It almost makes me go and get the 3:10 to Yuma just so I can play with it( I saw it at the Cine, wasn't gonna get the DVD)!!
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24. January 2008 @ 23:37 |
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here is dvdfab with shrink much better
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