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National Geographic Presents goes Blu-ray exclusive
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article published on 2 February, 2008
It seems that Warner's decision to go Blu-ray exclusive has swayed another one of its distribution partners to follow in its footsteps with National Geographic Presents confirming today that it will also drop HD DVD and move exclusively to Blu-ray.
National Geographic Presents, which is distributed under the wider Warner umbrella alongside New Line Home Entertainment, HBO Home Video and ... [ read the full article ]
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2. February 2008 @ 16:46 |
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Ah well another Blu-Ray only title that i will never purchase!
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I agree. Do we really care?
My opinions come with no warranty whatsoever, but are totally open-source, so you can reverse engineer or decompile them as you see fit. All other rights reserved.
"Freedom" in the west consists of: Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion and freedom of movement. So why is it then, that people want to know what youre saying, what you think of them and where you are going?
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2. February 2008 @ 17:34 |
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its a pin in the hddvd coffin lol it anit doing F**k all
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2. February 2008 @ 18:26 |
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As a fan of National Geographic this is very good news to hear.I see the switch to BD media is pretty much the focus.Also i see TDK has stop making HD-DVD media & made there focus on BD also.
Another bites the dust! TDK no longer making blank HD DVDs, and more
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TDK are one of the biggest brands of writable media and this is a severe blow to HD DVD
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-106826.aspx
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2. February 2008 @ 19:17 |
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As a fan of National Geographic this is very good news to hear.I see the switch to BD media is pretty much the focus.Also i see TDK has stop making HD-DVD media & made there focus on BD also.
Another bites the dust! TDK no longer making blank HD DVDs, and more
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TDK are one of the biggest brands of writable media and this is a severe blow to HD DVD
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-106826.aspx
That was one of the last pins to the HD-DVD coffin.
After Warner that was a huge blow.
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2. February 2008 @ 20:18 |
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2. February 2008 @ 21:28 |
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can somebody just yank the plug on HD-DVD please that would save a lot of typing lol.
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2. February 2008 @ 22:13 |
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Apparently someone keeps forcing everyone to make redundant comments on HD-DVD articles, is that it?
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2. February 2008 @ 22:42 |
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Just make "SHIFT F1" = (goes Blu-Ray Exclusive) as a short cut would same some typing time. I dont get tired of seeing it. Keep the News comming.
I would guess that BBC will do the same soon?.
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3. February 2008 @ 01:25 |
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Really I could care less if they went one way or the other.
I won't purchase either HD DVD or Blu-Ray for multiple reasons, sure I like HD content but I don't see a reason to purchase either format.
Peace
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Really I could care less if they went one way or the other.
I won't purchase either HD DVD or Blu-Ray for multiple reasons, sure I like HD content but I don't see a reason to purchase either format.
Peace
I am completly with you there, upscaling dvd's are great at less than half the price and when up-scaled on a normal HD screen (40" or below) at ten feet its certainly not worth the cost of upgrading all your equipment because of the HI-DEF, HDMI DRM HDCP and i certainly, will never own a DRM-Ray player and will advise everyone i know not to purchase one either.
Until a none anti consumer, crippled by DRM media player is released i am sticking to DVD's or media from my pc, until the MPAA decide to only release to DRM-Ray to force everyone to downgrade to their crippled hardware, then i will only purchase second hand or commit copy write infringement when second hand media is stopped by big media locking it to one person, which is what is coming soon if the MPAA/RIAA get their way with their none transferable licences.
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Until a none anti consumer, crippled by DRM media player is released
You,ll be waitin awhile for that...
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Originally posted by Sudds:
Originally posted by nobrainer:
Until a none anti consumer, crippled by DRM media player is released
You,ll be waitin awhile for that...
not really if they want to make us all jump through hoops and make all current equipment inoperable as there have been Hi-Def screens around for a long time now but the MPAA DRM body has chosen to block these screens to the new media because of HDMI HDCP DRM, ppl will do exactly what has happened with mp3's and i will join them @ http://thepiratebay.org/ because the product is better and more consumer friendly as the DRM has been stripped out.
if you can get a format you can use on all equipment without restrictions or reduced quality or the current situation of a blank screen on that Hi-Def screen you purchased last year for £2000, for having a none HDCP Hi-Def screen, ppl will choose it, so by sony and the mpaa DRM advocates (sony, fox, disney) choosing DRM-Ray over the more consumer friendly hardware it has just pushed up p2p usage 10fold.
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high five
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Hey nobrainer, check here...
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134227
You will probably need this in the near future! :-P
i don't own a hd-dvd or drm-ray player as there is little point as it means new av equipment and a new screen because of the HDMI DRM called HDCP, connections that are not crippled enough by DRM are blocked all together, and then you have to purchase the player itself, and the movies cost two to three times the cost of a dvd. i will stick to my thx system with up-scaling dvd's and pc hookup thankx.
btw once the DRM is stripped from both drm-ray and hd-dvd you can simply stream them in full HD to any screen direct from your pc! or burn them to dvd as HD-WMV files, its very easy process bypassing the DRM but its against the law as time shifting is not allowed because they want you to purchase the same title over and over again as new media sucks. here is what the mpaa thinks about time shifting!
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
Originally posted by Prof. Peter Gutmann above link:
In July 2006, Cory Doctorow published an analysis of the anti-competitive nature of Apple's iTunes copy-restriction system that looked at the benefits of restrictive DRM for the company that controls it. The only reason I can imagine why Microsoft would put its programmers, device vendors, third-party developers, and ultimately its customers, through this much pain is because once this copy protection is entrenched, Microsoft will completely own the distribution channel. In the same way that Apple has managed to acquire a monopolistic lock-in on their music distribution channel (an example being the Motorola ROKR fiasco, which was so crippled by restrictions that a Fortune magazine senior editor reviewed it as the STNKER), so Microsoft will totally control the premium-content distribution channel. In fact examples of this Windows content lock-in are already becoming apparent as people move to Vista and find that their legally-purchased content won't play any more under Vista (the example given in the link is particularly scary because the content actually includes a self-destruct after which it won't play any more, so not only do you need to re-purchase your content when you switch from XP to Vista, but you also need to re-purchase it periodically when it expires. In addition since the media rights can't be backed up, if you experience a disk crash you get another opportunity to re-purchase the content all over again. This is by design: as Jack Valenti, former head of the MPAA, put it, ?If you buy a DVD you have a copy. If you want a backup copy you buy another one?). It's obvious why this type of business model makes the pain of pushing content protection onto consumers so worthwhile for Microsoft since it practically constitutes a license to print money.
and the MPAA say thank you to all who have brought into our new DRM hardware of blu-ray and the DRM, BD+, that will include phone home authorisation and the ability to block a single title by its unique identifier! or lock it to a single device or account. just as sony are doing with psn purchased games, no right to transfer is going to become the norm. i hate to quote harry enfield but "if that's what you want, that's what'll happen" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIJIGqckpvE
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Nobrainer, it was meant to be funny! Lighten up... :-D
You don't even own a high def player, yet you post all through the blu-ray/HD-DVD threads... Now that doesn't make sense to me.
You are really taking this DRM thing too far. It's not like they have cameras installed in your house, or a chip in your arm. I agree that Apple made a mistake with their DRM downloads and even they have rectified that now. However, blu-ray isn't anywhere near as bad as you make it sound. If you have a genuine blu-ray disc, you will have no problem playing it across various platforms (stand alones, PC media players, PS3 etc.)
If you want to make back-ups... Well there are already ways around the whole DRM scheme. I have already spent much time playing with these applications with some great results.
So what is really the problem here? The idea of what they could do with DRM... Well, that is called paranoia... Or what they are actually doing? That my friend is called winning the format war, and that is reality!
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@ Ryu77
i've messed about with a blu-ray and hd-dvd stand alone's and would have purchased a hd-dvd player but its pointless now as imho, hd-dvd is dead in the water since the mpaa pulled ranks and choose drm-ray.
the drm was forced on m$ by the MPAA utalising the DMCA and will allow them to become the next monopoly as apple tried with aac but apple gave everyone a way to circumvent the drm by including a feature to burn to disc without the drm but the mpaa will not let this happen. what is bad is the way its heading, towards 1 licence per user per piece of hardware and if ppl don't wake up they will achieve their goal.
know your limits! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU&feature=related
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I have to agree with nobrainer about the DRM thing, although not in quite as paranoid fashion.
A few years ago M$ and 1ntel (Together with a few others) were touting an idea about a "Trusted computing platform" (TCPA), which was an idea meant to reduce piracy. Basically it consisted of the "Fritz" chip (Eventually to be embedded into major CPUs) and a (Probably M$) Operating System (Then codenamed Palladium). These two components would work together in order to block any "Unsigned" code from operating (basically any software that the TCPA based companies didn't want you to use. Could you imagine what would have happened to the Open-Source community if it ever came to fruition? How much can TCPA be compared to the current DRM systems in use today? I'd say quite a lot.
The point that I'm making here is that any DRM type system is open to abuse for anti-competitive purposes. At the moment we're reasonably protected by various competition rights laws, but what happens if or when that's no longer the case? What's to stop the DRM owners from invoking the DRM and blocking content that either they don't want you to watch, or indeed holding the consumer to "ransom"?
Because of the complexity and proprietary secrecy surrounding the DRM systems used in these new technologies, we're never really going to know how far the rights owners will be able to go with restrictions until it actually happens, which by then might be too late. That alone is enough to encourage the paranoia.
Open sourced software has helped the computing industry immensely, in just the same way as the independent film makers are breaking new ground in creative cinema. The large corporations (As much as they do their part sometimes in lowering prices through competition with other large corporations) are stifling the cutting edge material offered by the small independents in order to fulfil their quest for huge profits in order to keep the shareholders happy.
I've been a user of both HD formats in the last few months, but I have to agree with nobrainer about the upscaled SD DVD picture being pretty comparable. I use a large 42" screen and the picture quality with upscaled material is excellent. I now have my doubts as to whether I'll be buying any more HD discs for a while.
My opinions come with no warranty whatsoever, but are totally open-source, so you can reverse engineer or decompile them as you see fit. All other rights reserved.
"Freedom" in the west consists of: Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion and freedom of movement. So why is it then, that people want to know what youre saying, what you think of them and where you are going?
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iamgq,
One more retarded post like that and you're gone.
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
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Hopefully BluRay will take over HDDVD soon. (I only want Blu-ray to win because HD DVD is microsoft backed. And if it wins, it will only add to MS's empire of DRM, and shitty licenses). Yes I know, BR is backed by Sony, but do I care? No... well____________ yes I do.
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Originally posted by iamgq:
high five
Originally posted by neph:
iamgq,
One more retarded post like that and you're gone.
Your right, that was retarded, was you trying to pull off a Bhorat or something iamgq?
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Originally posted by BluRay:
Hopefully BluRay will take over HDDVD soon. (I only want Blu-ray to win because HD DVD is microsoft backed. And if it wins, it will only add to MS's empire of DRM, and shitty licenses). Yes I know, BR is backed by Sony, but do I care? No... well____________ yes I do.
HD-DVD has less anti consumer DRM and also does not include the MPAA's global price fixing tool of region coding unlike Blu-Ray.
sony and m$ are both anti consumer, but handing the hardware over to the MPAA, and sony giving studios the ability to run ANY code utilising blu-ray only DRM BD+ is certainly not a good move!
how long before sony pull the plug on another of their anti consumer propertarian lock-ins and get you all to bend over and lube up so you can purchase all the media all over again!?
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/01/sony-kills-drm-store.html
Originally posted by link:
Sony kills DRM stores -- your DRM music will only last until your next upgrade
Translation: You can continue to "enjoy" "your" music until you get a new PC or a new music player. And really, why would you want a new PC or a new music player ever again? Surely your three-year-old ATRAC player will never be truly obsolete!
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nobrainer.
I think you should be able to tell by my nick, that I am a BluRay and sony fanboi!
:D
I like BluRay because of its amazing potential, without DRM that is ;0
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." - Chinese Proverb BluRay.
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4. February 2008 @ 15:04 |
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high five
Originally posted by neph:
iamgq,
One more retarded post like that and you're gone.
Your right, that was retarded, was you trying to pull off a Bhorat or something iamgq?
No not really, there was another message all Caps, wasnt aware of the "all caps rule" so switched it to a simple high five.
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