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11. February 2008 @ 12:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi! I´m new with these boot discs, so i want to know what kind of files i can burn in the cd/dvd:s? Must it be .ISO always? I just burned Tomb raider anniversary 4,36GB NRG file with IMG burn and it doesn´t worked.. Did i something wrong? I got maxell DVD-R 4,7GB. My PS2 version is 30004 PAL "FAT". Anyone knows that if this swap magic 3.8 is compatible with new games? I didn´t found these info from earlier post, sorry for that.. Thanks!
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11. February 2008 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tomb Raider since it was first released on ps one has always been a problem to copy, backup or burn. I haven't found anyone who can help me copy Tomb Raider 2 for ps one yet - still looking.

I have swap magic 3.6, but my playstation cannot boot either of the discs to the "load program" screen, they stop at "swap magic version 3.6 plus screen."

I have ps2 version: 39001
browser: 1.20
cd player: 1.20
ps driver: 1.10
dvd player: 2.12u

Any help will be greatly appreciated. thanx.
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11. February 2008 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Dimsum84
Did you back this up yourself with Nero, cause you can choose ISO image file also in Nero. But I like to use read mode in Imgburn to backup my discs.
Some games if they are too large will need to be rebuilt to work with Swap Magic.
You can just use the expert tool v2 from alucard.cc.
Just read #11 of this faq, and then click expert tool 1.5, the instructions are right below it.
I have tomb raider anniversary and when I put the backup disc in my PC it shows it at 4.37GB.
Works fine on my V7 and V14 PS2 NTSC burned at 4x speed and using SM 3.8 USA version.
Did you select Normal, then PAL to boot your game.

@ilcmdme
Is this the first time you are using Swap Magic 3.6 Plus.I have not used that version, has the disc stopped when that screen comes up. I am not sure if you are supposed to insert disc at that screen or press start to go to next screen.
http://www.swapmagic3.com/






My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS

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12. February 2008 @ 07:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, I used them on a slimline before and it booted to the "load program" screen, but now I am using a fat v7 ps2 and it stops at "swap magic 3.6" screen and yes the discs stop spinning at that point. I don't know what to do next?
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12. February 2008 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi again! i solve the problem! it´s just dirty laser i think because when i move the ps2 to tower position the dvd start loading. In the game it works fine and no problems. only if you go back to main menu in the game it goes harder to read dvd.. and when you move vertical to horizontal and back it start reading again. :) Is it easy to clean that lens?
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12. February 2008 @ 10:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Dimsum84:
hi again! i solve the problem! it´s just dirty laser i think because when i move the ps2 to tower position the dvd start loading. In the game it works fine and no problems. only if you go back to main menu in the game it goes harder to read dvd.. and when you move vertical to horizontal and back it start reading again. :) Is it easy to clean that lens?

Yes its not hard too clean lens, and make sure you blow dust out underneath also.
http://www.cyber-mag.com/station/laserPS2.htm
Guide to take apart PS2.
Just be very careful so as not to damage your reset cable, when taking cover off, and putting back on.






My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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12. February 2008 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ilcmdme:
No, I used them on a slimline before and it booted to the "load program" screen, but now I am using a fat v7 ps2 and it stops at "swap magic 3.6" screen and yes the discs stop spinning at that point. I don't know what to do next?

Does your V7 have a fliptop or are you using the slide tool?




My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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12. February 2008 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Neither, I just took the top off of the console, the top of the drive and use the white cap to hold the disc in place. What are you driving at?
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12. February 2008 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I figured if you had a fliptop and perhaps it was too tight, that maybe the disc wouldn't read properly. Do your other discs read fine doing it that way.




My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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12. February 2008 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, other discs read, load and work just fine. these discs are my only problem?
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14. February 2008 @ 07:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't worry guys, guess what? I went home last night and decided to try again and it worked. I no longer have any problems with my boot discs, they work fine now.
I got other problems, i copied a few games espn2k5, stolen & gta: san andreas boots ok on special boot option, dt racer doesn't boot at all, why? fifa 06 loads then stops, why? do i have to rebuild them?
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14. February 2008 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
one question more.. What is the file format i should burn. Never seen answer to this kind a question.. !&#!%& It has to be .ISO always? Thanks! :)
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14. February 2008 @ 15:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ilcmdme:
Don't worry guys, guess what? I went home last night and decided to try again and it worked. I no longer have any problems with my boot discs, they work fine now.
I got other problems, i copied a few games espn2k5, stolen & gta: san andreas boots ok on special boot option, dt racer doesn't boot at all, why? fifa 06 loads then stops, why? do i have to rebuild them?

Glad it works for you now.
Yes some games like FIFA 2006 and others that are 4.37gb may need rebuilding to work properly with Swap Magic.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/244622
If you just do a search for each game title you will usually find your answers as to what problems others had and how they fixed it.





My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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14. February 2008 @ 15:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Dimsum84:
one question more.. What is the file format i should burn. Never seen answer to this kind a question.. !&#!%& It has to be .ISO always? Thanks! :)

Yes PS2 DVD backups are usually an ISO image for it too work properly.
Just use Imgburn to backup your Originals, and then use it again in "write mode" to burn them. You can also use Nero if you like to burn your ISO image.





My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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15. February 2008 @ 07:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But what if i had .NRG file? Should i convert that to ISO file? Can i burn any other files than ISO for playing ps2 games?
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15. February 2008 @ 09:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well if its a NRG file you burn it with Nero, but you said it doesn't work. What I would do then is mount that NRG file with Nero, then open up Imgburn and read the mounted file and it will save it as an ISO.
Then burn the ISO with Imgburn.
Is the Tomb Raider Anniversary a PAL or NTSC. Make sure then that you choose Normal, then PAL when you load this in SM 3.8
If that still doesnt work you then need to rebuild the Tomb Raider so it has a smaller Image size.
Read #11 of this guide. I would use the expert tool, and the instructions are right below it.






My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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15. February 2008 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I burned that NRG with ImgBurn. The game is PAL version. When i start the game from SM 3.8 menu pressing X, game start to load and it is then all black in screen and when i turn otherside my ps2 the game loads again to the menu. And in the game, there is lot of troubles loading new areas.. Is this the reason i burned the NRG file with ImgBurn and not with nero?

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15. February 2008 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I find backing up to an ISO file is best.
You could try a Swap Magic TOC refresh to get this to work. Full instructions here.
1.Boot from swap magic.
2.Wait for swap magic menu to show up,then
EJECT the swap magic by hitting EJECT on your PS2.
3.Put an ORIGINAL PS2 DVD with LARGE TOC in and use the eject button to get it in the drive. Something like GTA San Andreas, or Vice City
4.Wait for it to stop spinning.
5.Do whatever swap method you use to get the Tomb Raider Anniversay DVD in.
6.Press x to load it!'
If that doesn't work you may have to rebuild Tomb Raider so it will work for you.
The disk size then will be smaller, and should work better with Swap Magic.
Do you have any problems with any other backups or originals playing. The reason I am asking is to make sure you laser is fine or perhaps it needs cleaning.
You can try using a can of air and just blow it out good, or take it apart and clean it following these instructions.




My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS

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16. February 2008 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This was my second backup. The first one was cd-rom Half Life.ISO and it works fine.. I´m trying now that refresh, cuz i have that GTA:SA in my closet.. :) Lot of thanks for your help!
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16. February 2008 @ 04:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tryed that refreshing, but swapmagic menu said "not a valid ps2 disc". I did just what you said, with san andreas..
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16. February 2008 @ 06:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can i clean that laser with JackDaniels whisky 40%? I only have that right now.. =D
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16. February 2008 @ 08:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Problem solved! I cleaned that laser and it is working better now! Thanks for you help! :)
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16. February 2008 @ 09:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good deal. Glad its worked. Did you use the Jack Daniels? lol
Just to help you out in posting in the forums, if your the last poster you can click the little icon in top right corner of your post to edit your post to add more info.
Keeps the forum cleaned up.




My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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16. February 2008 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It only work once and then it went to same problem again.. Now i know that the reason is my burning. Cuz i burned NRG straight with ImgBurn. Am i right? I cleaned that lens with dish detergent or what is it in english.. We are now back to square 1.. :D
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16. February 2008 @ 22:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think the Jack Daniels would have been better than dish detergent.

You need to use like a rubbing alcohol, you can get it at any drugstore.
Use it with a q-tip to clean the lens.
If you still have troubles you need to try out other DVD's or backups DVD's to see if same problems.
Then you will know if its your laser going or that its burning issues.
As I also said you may need to rebuild that NRG file so its smaller.





My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
 
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